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Susan Collins is dead to me (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2018 OP
I want to say something but in this instance I will censor myself. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #1
This clip sums up exactly how I feel about this: Initech Jun 2018 #5
She is just following orders. tavernier Jun 2018 #2
Will her constituents buy it? Cha Jun 2018 #3
A lot of them will jpak Jun 2018 #9
Maine? sheshe2 Jun 2018 #26
No. They are a state getting hard by the tariffs. Even lobsters, have fun Susan. notdarkyet Jun 2018 #34
Thanks, notdarkyet Cha Jun 2018 #35
Not surprised. Please read my signature line. nt awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #4
She has been on life support to me for years grantcart Jun 2018 #6
perhaps you could say why msongs Jun 2018 #7
Please explain the outrage. Ms. Toad Jun 2018 #8
People Announcing at the Border That They Are Seeking Refuge and Asylum Leith Jun 2018 #15
This what is going on re. asylum. RandySF Jun 2018 #19
Unbelievalbe, isn't it? kcr Jun 2018 #21
She doesn't get that we need to help people trying to escape violence. ooky Jun 2018 #10
There are no good republicans, none! Not even one. onecaliberal Jun 2018 #11
Not even Trump? Pretty sure he's the greatest. czarjak Jun 2018 #12
He's the largest piece of maggot shit on the entire planet. onecaliberal Jun 2018 #22
MAGAt shit deurbano Jun 2018 #23
Precisely! onecaliberal Jun 2018 #30
None. zentrum Jun 2018 #27
Every Repub must be challenged at the ballot box. Dawson Leery Jun 2018 #13
Downright evil witch after the McConnell healthcare stabilization vote bribe Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #14
That sealed her fate as far as I am concerned. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #20
NO Congressional Republican should be trusted to any degree CakeGrrl Jun 2018 #16
Anyone who thought there was any such things wellst0nev0ter Jun 2018 #17
Rest in peace, Susan Collins. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #18
She's sided with Trump, not the US sakabatou Jun 2018 #24
Are people actually surprised at this assclown's level of hackery, nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #25
Was she ever alive?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #28
you know, my take is that she's not even saying much of anything here orleans Jun 2018 #29
The problem with the United States government is the GOP. UCmeNdc Jun 2018 #31
Yes elleng Jun 2018 #32
This is who she's always been. It's just harder for her to hide it now. Bleacher Creature Jun 2018 #33
"Moderate Republican" noncliqer Jun 2018 #36
:) Don't you know the difference between moderate, Hortensis Jun 2018 #38
Repubs who wouldn't be totally corrupted were purged long ago. Hortensis Jun 2018 #37

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. She has been on life support to me for years
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:49 PM
Jun 2018

Disgraceful.

The Profiles in Courage summary of the Republicans under Trump will fit on a 3 x 5 card with enough room left over to put in my grandmother's recipe for homemade apple pie.

Ms. Toad

(34,073 posts)
8. Please explain the outrage.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jun 2018

She gave the history of the policy.
She expressed concern for the danger facing immigrant children both in their own country and in the travel to the US
She clarified the difference between the two issues that have been merged in many reports.
She called for enforcing immigration laws in humane ways.

Maybe I missed it - but I've read it tiwce. I do not see any endorsement or rationalization of the separation policy or expression of support for it.

While I fundamentally disagree with her apparent support for restricting immigration - in general - I also disagree with many people on DU becuase I do not believe the right to live and work whey you want to should be dictated by an accident of birth.

It isn't clear what the question was that she was resonding to - it appears to respond to a common confusio mingling two immigration stories that appeared at the same time.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
15. People Announcing at the Border That They Are Seeking Refuge and Asylum
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jun 2018

are, by definition, NOT ILLEGAL. rethugs are arresting them and taking their children away anyway.

How can a DUer not know this?

RandySF

(58,836 posts)
19. This what is going on re. asylum.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:48 PM
Jun 2018

They raised the bar to a point where alomost no one qualifies. So, they are deemed, deemed illegal and have their kids taken away.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
21. Unbelievalbe, isn't it?
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:53 PM
Jun 2018

There were more claims that people were conflating and confusing things at first but almost everyone now realizes that's not the case. Anyone still spreading that crap is a troll.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
10. She doesn't get that we need to help people trying to escape violence.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jun 2018

Not make it more difficult for them. This is frustrating.

This is a case where I'm tired of hearing about law. If there's a problem with our law, introduce a better law, Senator. In the meantime get rid of this evil policy of separating them. No more f'ing around, FIX IT. NOW. We are Americans, not nazis.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
16. NO Congressional Republican should be trusted to any degree
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:42 PM
Jun 2018

Not now.

Flake is less than useless - someone in his personal circle should stop him from tweeting his laments about the Republican Party, because he looks more feckless every time he does it and fails to oppose a Trump policy.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
17. Anyone who thought there was any such things
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 11:42 PM
Jun 2018

as "moderate" Republicans need to have their heads examined.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
29. you know, my take is that she's not even saying much of anything here
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:54 AM
Jun 2018

she says: jeff sessions says blablabla.
then: protecting children is paramount
then: i am concerned that blablabla, some years ago blablabla
then: sessions announcement has caused confusion blablabla

maybe i'm just tired but i don't see that she's rationalizing trump shit

i just see her doing her same old speal of 1. here's one thing, 2. here's something else, 3. i'm concerned about this. 4. goodbye and thanks for contacting me.

she's dodging the subject rather than taking a stand on it (as usual. "blablablablabla" )

(she's an asshole. years ago she gave me a bit of false hope when she was paired up with olympia snowe. but she's just an asshole)

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
31. The problem with the United States government is the GOP.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:11 AM
Jun 2018

Not only Trump but the whole GOP is ruining the country.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
33. This is who she's always been. It's just harder for her to hide it now.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:21 AM
Jun 2018

I'm only surprised that people are surprised by this.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. :) Don't you know the difference between moderate,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:40 AM
Jun 2018

hard-core and extreme conservatives is all relative?



Collins has shown that, when allowed, she will sometimes disagree with the hard cores and extremists, but that just shows that those still capable of opposing destructively hard-line positions are just as corruptible as the rest.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Repubs who wouldn't be totally corrupted were purged long ago.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:31 AM
Jun 2018

All members of the Republican caucuses in the conservative post- New Deal era have agreed to support increasingly intense corruption as a price for being there. Susan Collins has been a Republican senator for over 15 years.

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