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Jim Thorpe was perhaps the greatest pure athlete ever.
He won Olympic gold in 1912.
He was later found to have been paid for playing semi pro football before becoming an Olympian. He was stripped of his medals for violating the rules for amateurism. He died with the sting of that. 30 years after his death, the Olympic committee gave back the medals.
And today LeBron James is but one of the millionaire celebrity professionals playing basketball.
Names like Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, Maria Sharapova, and Serena Williams are tennis competitors.
Not an amateur among them.
Beach volleyball in bikinis is a sport.
Can anyone say who is competing in shot put or javelin?
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Like everything else that was once traditional and held up as a model to be emulated.
Meh
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)The working classes didn't have the time to compete for nothing, even if they could have afforded it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_sports
I don't think its a step down at all, considering the costs of training and the time commitment involved. Whether one's training is subsidized by the state, by one's wealthy family or a patron, or by sponsorships - that has little to do with the athlete or the performance itself. The only way that comes into play is if there is no money, in which case the athlete is SOL.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)100 years ago professional sports was a working class profession and was seen as such by the upper class.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The host city/country racks up billions of dollars for this charade of monkeys who are merely the front for a handful of large corporations who profit off of advertising and sales.
Ten percent of Greece's national debt is do to the 2004 games.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)its not all and everything, of course, as we are complex animals, but competition seems to be an itch that must be scratched, one way or another.
One might exercise one's competitive instincts directly oneself, or vicariously as a spectator; and it might be on the playing field, or the battlefield, or in the boardroom. I think the playing field offers a most healthy way, with the least harm.
There's nothing better than to watch a spent but gracious victor congratulate his/her opponents for a good match, and thank all those who helped him/her along the way.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)seem to fulfill the needs of those lacking in intellectual capacity.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)for one who puts his whole heart into an effort and does well.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)I don't.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)You can see most clearly in others what you possess in yourself.
ananda
(28,858 posts).. it didn't used to be.
I remember learning that Joan Spillane's family was too poor to send
her to the Olympics. So they passed the hat and people donated in
order to send her. That's how it was then.
Now it's so different. Winning is everything, and the sports arena, along
with the political and economic areana around it, is
riddled with corruption on so many levels.
But we the audience still buy into the romance and glory of it. Well, I do
anyway to some degree; but that doesn't mean I like all of it or that I
think it's right.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)It was a joke that they were stripped then (as at least one of his competitors well realized, refusing to exchange his silver medal for Thorpe's gold). The amateur standard was very much a class thing, influenced by the values of the British aristocracy and largely restricting competition to the leisure class. Though I don't personally get that excited about Olympic basketball or tennis, I don't mourn the passing of the amateur standard. I also don't mind that beach volleyball is an olympic sport.
As for shot putters, Reese Hoffa has a great back story, and it was really cool watching him take home the bronze last night, in his third and final Olympic games.
malaise
(268,968 posts)when it suits NBC and its sponsors
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Back in those days "Amateur" meant "white guy rich enough to pay for an expensive athletic hobby". To be a professional athlete was to be a working-stiff prole in the eyes of society back then, which was in fact true because pro athletes back then were poorly paid.
NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)she thought all night she had the gold locked. then she blew it and got silver.
then she didn't even have the sportsmanship to buck up and congratulate the winner.
bad form IMHO
Johonny
(20,841 posts)oops, seriously how many times must someone beg me to pretend that amateur sports were, are pure compared to pro-sports. They weren't/ aren't. If you want purity become an alter boy... errr.