Temple shooting is DOMESTIC TERRORISM

[malaise]

Phew - the police said it

[TeamPooka]

1. so was the Batman movie shooter

about time they said so about these guys.

[cali]

11. I disagree. I think this does look like domestic terrorism

I don't think the Aurora shootings had anything to do with terrorism.

[originalpckelly]

12. That MF was just nuts.

This looks to be a different kind of crazy: religion.

[cali]

13. yep.

[Lizzie Poppet]

18. I concur.

Nothing we've seen so far indicates any political motive for the Aurora shootings. I suspect that this case, however, will prove otherwise. My gut feeling is that some ignoramus figured "dark skinned people + turbans = Muslim terris!!"

[petronius]

24. I agree with your "disagree" - there's no reason at all to tag Aurora with

the 'T' word. It's a much stronger possibility in WI, however...

[kestrel91316]

25. The movie shooter was in all likelihood a lone mentally ill person without political motive.

This is gonna turn out to be classical terrorism. Teabagger/militia/RWer.

[TeamPooka]

29. If you act to induce terror and fear in others you are a terrorist

some have political motives.
Others motives can be more narcissistic and sociopathic but they are terrorists none the less.

[kestrel91316]

32. By that definition, all criminals are terrorists. Please review

the legal definition and how it is used in the real world as opposed to inside your head.

[cali]

37. nope. that is not the definition of terrorism and it shouldn't be.

[TeamPooka]

38. dictionary.com disagrees with you

ter·ror·ism
   [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

[agent46]

35. Teabagger/militia/RWer - that's American crazy

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There may be other non-western enemies as well. I'm going to wait and hear what the propagandists say.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. and the FBI is immediately involved

good

[malaise]

4. Well one of the dead is a Sikh priest from India

so this will be bigger than the FBI.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Yup

Yup, quoted the chief in an op.

[jillan]

5. It is about time we call this what it is.

[malaise]

9. Well he nearly killed a cop

and he ambushed another one.
Further the visiting Sikh priest was from New Delhi. India is a big ally.

[lunatica]

6. It's about time that all these type of murders are seen for what they are

Terrorism.

[nc4bo]

7. Thought I heard that correctly. Good.

Then again, the shooter is dead.

Wonder if that makes any difference? Also let's see M$M say it or how long it takes them to acknowledge it.

[malaise]

10. Two semi-automatic handguns

They're lucky most of the people hadn't arrived yet.

[xchrom]

8. Du rec. Nt

[BumRushDaShow]

14. K&R

[Ruby the Liberal]

15. Good.

Now treat it as such, please.

[barbtries]

16. i'd been watching the live stream

for hours and had actually just finished bitching to my son that if this wasn't terrorism what is...then the police chief came on and said that and it made me feel much better.
on one of the two channels i've been watching they offered up a statement from the white house delivered by Obama's counterterrorism adviser. one of the talking heads said i don't know what to say about who delivered that statement. that's when i got pissed.
i also got upset because they kept talking about how this happened in a house of worship and you just don't expect that. do you expect it at the movies? at school? at your hairdresser's? at your grandma's nursing home? all scenes of mass shootings in recent US history. where should we expect it?
they wouldn't touch the subject of whether the gunman had the Sikh temple confused with a mosque with a ten foot pole, which i have to admit is fair enough. dollars to donuts that's what happened though. ignorant, rabid hate. thank you glenn beck, rush limbaugh, michele bachmann, etc.

[malaise]

17. Great post

Should be an OP

[barbtries]

19. thanks Malaise

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. I told Malaise in a pm I suspected the internal terrorism

Decision came high from DOJ... I did not thnk POTUS. Perhaps I was wrong. Watch for RW over reaction

[barbtries]

21. the story on yahoo suggests

that the live stream team had it wrong: they reported that the news was relayed to the president by Brennan and that a "senior official" gave his response. i don't know, but i am relieved that at least for this incident the people investigating are calling it what it is.

[malaise]

22. Rmoney had a quick response

They know what happened here - his silence - he has left the Michelle Bachman's to attack people based on religion -the silence of ReTHUG leaders on attacks has to stop. The time has come to shut down these fucking haters.

barbtries has a great post at #16.

[Scuba]

28. Agree that this excellent post deserves its own OP.

[barbtries]

34. thanks Scuba nt

[Progressive dog]

23. Nah, doesn't fit the requirements

Got to be committed by a Muslim, everyone knows that.

[mnhtnbb]

26. Religion is involved--so the PTB are willing to label it terrorism.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. It is radical RW terrorism.

Perpetuated against a minority group. The fact that it was committed in a place of worship makes it all the worse.

This is from an atheist. I may not agree with religion. I'm not shy about that fact. However, I will defend anyone's right to practice their religion in this country, just as much as I defend my right to speak out against beliefs I disagree with. That's what freedom of religion actually means.

[proud patriot]

27. "we are treating it as domestic terrorism incident"

Watching the replay of press conference now. he implied that calling it domestic terrorism allowed the feds to investigate and help.

[malaise]

30. It's good news

His first mistake was ambushing one cop and shooting another cop.
By the way -he had on tactical gear - so say GEM$NBComcast

[Kingofalldems]

33. Is there a chance he was a freeper?

[ann---]

36. Thanks to Bachmann

who's hateful, false accusations against innocents contributed to this heinous crime. The idiot shooter probably thought he was killing "Muslims for Michelle."