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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVirginians.... How's Tim Kaine doing in Virginia?
Does he stand a chance of picking up a Senate seat?
Just think he was Obama's second choice for VP... and lead us to defeat in the 2010 election. However
he is not a republican .
Are you getting to see any ads or talk?
Will he be challenged by a democrat?
I thought he was popular in Virginia
Anyway... tell us what you know.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Julien Modica (D), and FIVE Republicans, and ONE Independent/3rdParty
Look here on this Chart at Virginia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2012#Race_summary
sofa king
(10,857 posts)He has an already built statewide political framework, he's sure to attract the attention, interest, and money of the Obama reelection campaign, and if we're really lucky, his opponent will be the same George Allen whose entire campaign burst apart like an unsprung watch in about one week of close media scrutiny.
Add in the fact that many thousands of the most loyal Virginia Republicans will be dead before election day, thanks to this being a right to work state where many are uninsured and even those who have jobs still need public assistance (or risk an early demise if they refuse it)... and it's looking depressingly good.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)showed him in a dead heat or slightly ahead of Allen. I think that this one could break either way depending on how the Presidential race goes.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Decades of observing American politics has revealed this simple observation to me: Democratic candidates in general, because the Democratic Party actually vets its candidates and has less tolerance for criminals, rarely sink in the polls as an election year matures (except, of course, at the touchscreen). They tend to hold position or improve over time starting this far out from an election.
Witness President Obama right now; he had a bad year and at one point his job approval rates nearly sank to the best job approval ratings George Bush ever got after being "reelected." The low-40s was also where Senator Obama started out, in imaginary head-to-head polling back in 2007. He'll be over 60% by next fall.
Republican candidates, on the other hand, are criminals, chosen by other criminals through their interpersonal connections and their shared conspiracies. They almost always sink in the polls as soon as their primary season ends. That's because an imaginary Republican candidate is always better than the peccant shill who eventually wins the primaries.
"Son, I love your strategy," said Barbara Bush. "Don't let them get to know you." And that's the key to Republican success: concealing their base nature until it is too late. As long as they can hide behind the marketing-team image created for them, they do fine. But public scrutiny invariably reveals serious flaws in character and decision making--which is why they're Republicans in the first place.
Not knowing what George Allen was about is what greased his skids the last time. He had the same juice the other Georgie had, too: son of a guy more famous than he (and, we would learn, infinitely more competent as well). As long as he was mysterious, his father's reputation burnished his own far brighter than it should have been.
But now we know. Sure, many Virginians have forgotten... which is awesome, because it's his only chance to get the nomination. Which in turn is awesome because it's going to be much easier to remind them of who George Allen is than it was to teach them the last time.
The hard job will be keeping the press distracted until after Allen wins the nomination. 'Cause Allen is definitely the guy I want our guy (or gal) to run against.