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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:41 PM Aug 2012

The Romney campaign admission on health care also leaves the media to twist in the wind

Obama's Ruthless Politics vs. Romney's Ruthless Management

By Michael Kinsley

Mitt Romney's people are trying a little jiu jitsu on an Obama ad implying that Romney is responsible for the death of a Kansas City woman who lacked health insurance. They want to turn the ad against President Barack Obama and tar him as the bad guy -- the ruthless politician -- of this campaign.

And they seem to have persuaded the gullible media that the ad is a lie. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, badgering an Obama spokeswoman for a quote, said bluntly today on the air that the story told in the ad “just isn’t so.” So is it?

Leave aside the fact that the ad comes from a so-called "super-PAC,” which by law is supposed to be totally unconnected from the campaign. Although there is a lot of wink-wink about super-PACs in both parties, and the widower featured in this ad has previously appeared in an official Obama campaign ad, there is no evidence that anyone violated the rules in this case.

The ad is certainly tough and effective, but is it dishonest? It does not accuse Romney of murder. It does accuse him of indirect responsibility for a woman’s death. It says that because the woman’s husband, Joe Soptic, lost his job and his health insurance when Bain Capital bought his company and closed his plant, his wife, Ranae, was slow to get medical care when she started feeling ill, and as a result was diagnosed with Stage Four cancer -- terminal -- when she finally sought help. She died shortly thereafter.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-08/obama-s-ruthless-politics-vs-romney-s-ruthless-management.html


Greg Sargent:

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The larger story here is this: Even if this ad makes unsupportable charges — and even if you think there’s nothing objectionable about Bain’s conduct — the ad dramatizes a larger story about what has happened to the middle class in this country. There is a straightfoward difference of opinion between the two candidates over how to respond to this — over the degree to which the federal government should intervene to protect people like Ms. Soptic. Obama believes in aggressive federal action to cushion the blow of market outcomes like the one that hit families like the Soptics with such force. Romney — even though his campaign has now said universal health care is the right answer in cases like hers — is promising to roll back government protections for families like theirs. Whatever you think of the ad, that's the more important larger argument to be having here — and it has been clarified this week.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/debate-over-dead-woman-is-clarifying-moment-in-prez-race/2012/08/08/e24e67f6-e188-11e1-98e7-89d659f9c106_blog.html

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The Romney campaign admission on health care also leaves the media to twist in the wind (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
Blitzer is An Ass, Ma'am: Romney Killed This Man's Wife, And Did It For Pocket Change The Magistrate Aug 2012 #1
Romney is ProSense Aug 2012 #2
Joe Scab was tsk tsking all over the place this morning over the ad, and Mika wasn't much help monmouth Aug 2012 #3
Every effective ProSense Aug 2012 #4
My impression is that it shows Romneys lack of.... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #5

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
1. Blitzer is An Ass, Ma'am: Romney Killed This Man's Wife, And Did It For Pocket Change
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:44 PM
Aug 2012

He has done this to hundreds, thousands of people; pocketed their livelihoods and pensions, thrown them out of their homes, left them destitute and dying, and all so he could cram a few more dollars into his pockets. He has no regard whatever for human life where snatching a few more bucks for himself is concerned.

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Romney is
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:47 PM
Aug 2012

going to break the record for media complicity if he hasn't already.

They've bent over backward to protect this rich bully, liar and predator and all around despicable asshole.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
3. Joe Scab was tsk tsking all over the place this morning over the ad, and Mika wasn't much help
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:02 PM
Aug 2012

either. "It's the lowest of low I've seen" opined distraught Joe. Then Robert Gibbs came on, explained it in the proper perspective as stated above. Poor Joe, he just cannot win...LOL..

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. Every effective
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:14 PM
Aug 2012

ad by the Obama campaign and its allies are subject to intense media scrutiny and fact checking. Mitt's lies (like the despicable one involving military voters) are simply footnoted as false.

Here come's Factcheck.org to the rescue: http://factcheck.org/2012/08/is-romney-to-blame-for-cancer-death/

Note when this was filed:

Posted by Robert Farley on Wednesday, August 8, 2012 at 3:39 pm Filed under The FactCheck Wire. tagged with Bain Capital, Mitt Romney, Priorities USA Action.


...after the Romney campaign screwed up by basically endorsing the point of the ad.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
5. My impression is that it shows Romneys lack of....
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:38 PM
Aug 2012

empathy. A lack of caring about the result of his actions. I didn't get the feeling he was responsible for murder at all.

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