Did Trump Just Admit Attempted Collusion? These Reporters Seem to Think So

[DonViejo]

by Aidan McLaughlin | Aug 5th, 2018, 9:48 am

President Donald Trump blasted out a tweet Sunday morning — amongst many — declaring that reports saying he’s worried his son Don Jr. could be in legal trouble are a “complete fabrication.” But he also described the infamous meeting at Trump Tower as a “meeting to get information on an opponent.”

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That’s interesting, because Don Jr.’s initial statement about meeting said its focus was “a program about the adoption of Russian children,” and not an attempt to seek out dirt from the Russians on Hillary Clinton

As Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigates potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, the Trump Tower meeting has come under scrutiny.

NBC News’ Chuck Todd pointed out that in the tweet, “the president admits his campaign did willingly reach out to Russians for dirt on Clinton.”

“Attempted collusion?” he asked.

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Others drew the same conclusion, noting that Trump appears to have just given up on denying accusations of collusion.

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[Garrett78]

1. Junior admitted as much over a year ago.

"Obviously I'm the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent... went nowhere but had to listen." July 10, 2017

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/14/timeline-shifting-accounts-trump-tower-meeting-rus/

I don't really see how Senior repeating what Junior said is big news.

Mueller had that info long ago. Does Mueller have proof that Trump Sr. knew about the meeting and has lied by saying he didn't? That's the big question.

[DonViejo]

6. Well, let's see; via Tweets, speeches, and interviews Senior has denied collusion for well over

a year. While traveling on AF 1, he wrote a press release on behalf of Junior, stating the meeting was about Russian adoptions. He's called the news about the collusion "fake news" and declared reporters and media outlets to be "the enemy of the people" but you don't see what the big deal is. Really?

[Garrett78]

8. I didn't say this matter isn't a big deal. I said it isn't news.

Junior was forced to admit over a year ago that the meeting was about getting info about Clinton, adding that it turned into a meeting about an old adoption program and the Magnitsky Act.

Senior is repeating what Junior admitted publicly over a year ago. The Brian Klaas tweet makes this same point.

Of course this story is important and of course it matters if Trump has been lying by stating he didn't know about the meeting. But this admittance isn't news.

[C_U_L8R]

2. Slippery slope

If there are any co-conspirators or anyone slightly implicated
who haven't confessed all to Mueller... now's the time.
They can't depend on Trump, that's for sure.
He'll get them all hanged.

[underpants]

3. Just

[beachbum bob]

4. trump admitted the meeting happen and it was about russia helping the campaign with dirt on HRC

a couple years of denying it in the first place

[Mr. Ected]

5. This tweet is a bullseye for Mueller

BINGO!

Here is the Special Counsel's directive:

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation....

Every single person at that meeting is a co-conspirator, and Trump essentially just made a public admission of that fact.

[onecaliberal]

7. Mueller doesn't even need to sit with dump, he's confessing everything on twitter.

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. Until they claim inadmissibility

based on multiple people having access to tweet out on that account.

"That was Scavino, he misspoke".

They put Dowd up to it on the firing Flynn tweet. https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/03/politics/flynn-firing-dowd-tweet/index.html

I put nothing past these assholes and the complicit congress who is all about the court stacking while Trump distracts us from what they are doing.

I am also too young to be this cynical...

[onecaliberal]

17. The White House has already claimed tweets are official communication.

[ok_cpu]

9. What kind of mealy-mouthed BS is "attempted collusion"?

Conspiracy. Full stop.

Not directed at the OP, but at all of the journalists still using terms like "meddled" and "attempted collusion".

Don Jr. trying to be cute with his initial statement indicated the Russians wanted to talk about the Magnisky Act. tRump confirmed the quid to their quo this morning.

[Stallion]

10. It Is Amazing these Reporters Can't Focus on the Words of 18 USC 371

as you point out. The violation is not collusion or attempted collusion-the violation is two or more persons agreeing to commit at least one overt act by one or more persons in furtherance of the agreed goal or aim of the conspiracy. The conspiracy doesn't not have to be successful-the crime is complete upon the agreement and commission of overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. The President has admitted a conspiracy to defraud the United States as well as related offenses and crimes

18 USC Sec 371:

"If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy..."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

[triron]

19. Need dems to come out and say exactly what you said (for starters).

[oberliner]

11. Trump will say this proves that the media is unfairly out to get him

Actually Hannity, Tucker, Dobbs, and the Fox & Friends people will say that first.

[shraby]

12. Conspiracy is the correct word. They conspired to get dirt on Hillary.

[D_Master81]

13. Exhibit A for why no serious attorney will work w/ him.

Any serious person would keep their mouth shut during an ongoing investigation, but Trump just cant help but be out their "fighting" that he may in the end be his own undoing.

[MaryELease]

15. Funny...

Casey Michael brings up the 1984 incident against Reagan, but an overwhelming majority of people who have no idea about 1980.

The long and short of it was the Reagan campaign and RNC affiliates were engaged in backchannel communications with Iranian reps to broker the delay and staging the timed release of the hostages.

The delay in order to maximize their attacks on Carter on a very public and front and center issue that the entire country was keenly focused on in the run-up to the election.

Then, they timed the release of the hostages 1-2 in lockstep almost immediately after the inauguration (literally the day after!) to boost Ronnie's popularity numbers in order to swing national sentiment and create a groundswell of support for his impending deregulation of America, absurd tax cuts, bloated defense budget, and exploding the deficit- while simultaneously raiding the Social Security and Medicare trust reserves through the backdoor to use as their own personal piggy bank slush fund.

Don Regan, at the encouragement of Greenspan, who is one of the most disastrous people in American history, hatched this plan to rob the social safety net money (and coincidentally create the argument that these programs had to be cut, or ended if they had their choice). Using this money, they essentially stole, which was done to make the budget numbers look prettier- or at least not as ugly so economists wouldn't be so quick to raise the red flags & sound the alarm bells about the con job that is supply-side "trickle down" economics.

Even still, the numbers were still so horrendous that if remember, Reagan had to raise taxes and adjust the original tax cuts.

People need to wake up and realize that the Trump is not any different from what the GOP has been doing since Nixon- he's just an uglier and dumber figurehead for the Republican party, but lines up with the GOP vision of America 99% across the board.

[Greywing]

16. Trumplethinskin has just admitted to conspiracy

He broke campaign law and conspired with a foreign government in order to become POTUS ... WTF! How can Congress not see this for what it is! I am so effing pissed!!!!

[triron]

18. "Attempted"? No, it is conspiracy to defraud, etc. Just because you don't succeed (which you can

argue otherwise) doesn't make it a non-conspiracy!

[DesertRat]

20. k&r