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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:15 AM Aug 2012

Newt lies even more than Romney



It is absolutely bizarre how willfully these people lie. Just lie through their teeth and have no problem with it. He's been given a forum on Morning Scab to totally misrepresent what Obama has done re: the welfare reform act, health care, calling Obama a "Saul Alinsky radical" out to destroy America. Not only isn't he challenged on ANYTHING he spews, he is served up the topics on a silver platter.

Lots of "...we have to assume he meant..." and "...I suspect that..." with NOTHING but his fat bloviating ass to back up his assertions.

Fear and hatred. And lies. Newt is still the master.
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Atman

(31,464 posts)
4. Surprisingly, Mark Halperin called him on his bullshit.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:32 AM
Aug 2012

Halperin had to ask him three times how he could makes such claims about Obama gutting the welfare work requirement if the law specifically requires states to have plans to increase work by 20% in order to be granted a waiver.

Newt, of course, just kept ducking and dodging, saying because "Obama hates work and drastically increased food stamp usage!" and "the head of HHS is a RADICAL!"

Halperin kept pushing -- "That's not an answer, sir. The law specifically calls for MORE work. How do you interpret this as gutting the program?"

Finally, for his fourth answer, Newt simple said, well because we don't believe him."

That's when the interview was ended, followed by a moment of sucking up to Newt's awesomeness, can't wait to see you at the convention, etc.

He really is a horrible, horrible man.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. I think it was Heilman, actually, but it doesn't matter because it was important
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:46 AM
Aug 2012

that it was SAID to Newt's lying face! I admire Heilman's tenacity and when Newt finally said "Because we don't believe them!" I had a good laugh! But I wish someone had followed up, asking "Why would these REPUBLICAN governors lie?" I would have liked to hear Newt dance around THAT!

What was disgusting was Mika sucking up to Newt, promising to attend his "Newt U" school, whatever that is!

What got too much for me was Dan Senor. Bad enough they had Mark McKinnon, that smirking asshole. But Senor coming on and whining about being outnumbered 7 to 1 on the show last week was nauseating.

My nausea forced me to shut the set off and leave the room...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. I like when he said "I've asked you twice and you haven't answered my question..."
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:43 AM
Aug 2012

right to Newt. It made Newt admit "because we don't believe them..."

THAT was pretty telling right there.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
18. Sadly, this is exactly what he'll be teaching at Newt U.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:51 AM
Aug 2012

Sound kind of like F*ck U, but that's for another thread.

Seriously, this is what his "University" will be about. Teaching other Republicans how to stonewall, obfuscate and outright LIE when they're on talking-head shows. Teaching them the proper talking points, how to make sure you never stop talking, thereby getting your talking points out there while at the same time eating up the airtime allotted for actual questions and responses. Nothing about FACTS, just tactics. That is all Newt is about...tactics. Facts don't concern him.

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KaryninMiami

(3,073 posts)
2. He really is a disgusting man
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:29 AM
Aug 2012

And he did have free reign- no one even dared throw him a hard question- they all just sapped it up and let him blubber on endlessly. Seymour was clearly in heaven. Why were there no Dems on the panel today? We needed Howard Dean or Lawrebce O'Donnel there for some balance.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. My guess is that Joe is so mad that his candidate is a loser that he has to have
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:19 AM
Aug 2012

other repubs on the show for emotional "support." Misery loves company, esp. the company of others just as miserable as you are. He as much as admitted it when he grudgingly admitted that Obama did very well in Colorado yesterday, talking about women's rights. And he did draw the contrast between Mitt's wooden demeanor and Obama bringing up his mom and his two daughters. I loved it when one woman in the audience yelled out "She's still with us!" when he talked about losing her to cancer when she was 52. And then Obama said "Yes, she is still with us." I was caught up in that, it was so natural. He really connected with the audience at a deeply personal level just about anyone can understand...

sendero

(28,552 posts)
6. I agree..
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:40 AM
Aug 2012

.... virtually every sentence out of his mouth is functionally a lie. You wonder who can believe a word he says.

Saturday

(3,744 posts)
7. Why is this man...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:00 AM
Aug 2012

that was kicked out of the House by his own party even relevant??? Why does he get air time???

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
11. No Penalty For Lying...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:41 AM
Aug 2012

The old political axiom is "a lie runs around the world while the truth is getting its pants on"...and that's the game the rushpublicans are playing big time...they always have. Since we have a lazy and complicit corporate media...any lie that Gnewt or any other teabagging mouthpiece spews will always get a big play and only later when the truth is check is there any kind of "accountability" and by then Willard and his ilk are onto their next sliming. There are no morals here...all that matters is winning...

Atman

(31,464 posts)
16. This is totally true.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:33 AM
Aug 2012

I have many FB friends who repeat this stuff verbatim and swear it's true. You can post the actual facts for them, and they'll just respond with the clip from Fox News -- "See! Here's proof!" I "argued" with some loon about voter fraud last week. Explained to him that it didn't really exist. Every "source" he posted was either clip of some guest on Fox News, or stuff from this web site called WesternJournalism.com, which was all just a compendium of the most outrageous right-wing bullshit you could find. Confederate flags, lots and lots of Obama hate. He didn't understand why I didn't accept this as a legitimate source. He said "You probably listen to NPR and MSNBC!" He's one of the many that doesn't understand MSNBC is really very Republican during most of the day. Unfortunately, because of Rachel and KO, MSNBC has become a left-wing version of Fox in the eyes of most, and it just isn't true. Fox has never and will never offer up half of it's programming to the left, as MSNBC does for the right. If there really is a "fair and balanced" station, it would have to be MSNBC more than any other cable news channel, simply for this reason. They really do mix it up.

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