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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"When he has the lead, Peyton Manning doesn't pretend he's losing"
Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 08:52 AM PDT
We are winning
by kos
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...Mitt Romney is a disaster. He's the first Republican nominee in modern history to have higher negatives than positives (not even Bob Dole had that distinction). His every interaction with regular Americans (and heads of state, for that matter) has ended in an insult. He was a bully when he was younger, and he's a bully now. Except that instead of shearing off people's wrong-sized hair, he fires them. He speaks weird.
Pres. Barack Obama leads in Electoral College. Obama has opened up a four-point lead in the national polling, omitting Rasmussen (even though Rasmussen itself is now showing Obama ahead):
But that four-point national lead isn't as relevant as the big electoral college advantage he currently enjoys.
It isn't just Obama's margin of victory in states adding up to 332 electoral votes (when he only needs 270 to win). It's Romney's numbers. Look at them closely. There are a lot of 42s and 43s and 44s. In fact, he only hits 46 percent in three of the 13 states. This, of course, speaks to the fact that no one likes Romney. And while the Romney campaign claims it'll be like Ronald Reagancoming from behind late in the cycle to win, fact is, people liked Reagan. They liked him a lot.
People don't like Romney... (see chart at link below)
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But that four-point national lead isn't as relevant as the big electoral college advantage he currently enjoys (see chart at link below).
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...Our job: To run up the score....When he has the lead, Peyton Manning doesn't pretend he's losing. He sets out to crush his opponent's spirit by running up the score.
MORE WITH HOUSE AND SENATE: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/09/1118180/-We-are-winning
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)when he is.
Act like a winner.
The Prez is doing just that!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)How about: even when Usain Bolt is ahead in the 200m, he never eases up.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)but he was so far ahead he wasn't caught.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)We can beat them at their own game.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)Take what works from your enemies.
Make their strengths yours then they can't use it against you.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)First, the Obama campaign has not "pretended it is losing" ever (in this election or the last). The only time it admits to being behind is in the big-money fundraising, which it in fact is. This is to get people to donate more. But this campaign will fight like dogs to the time of the last poll closing on election day.
And no one is or ever should be complacent. But we don't need to take any advice from our enemies. This campaign and its volunteers will be knocking on doors, raising money, creating ads, stumping, phone banking, and fighting to the finish. It's simply advice that's not needed. (Except perhaps to the complacent on boards like this.)
I still say feh on the fake Republican football analogy. All athletes fight to the end, racking up as much as they can against their opponents, and all good politicians do the same.
(I remember phone banking on election day for an alderman's race here in Chicago. The people running the bank were relentless. Ten minutes before the polls closed, at 7 pm, they were handing us lists of people to call who lived in buildings with voting places right in their building. "Call and tell them they still have time to vote!" Afterward, I found out our candidate had been up by more than 8 points all day, and won handily over the incumbent, 54 to 46. When I asked the captain why they had been pushing us so hard, he simply said: we never take any chances, and we don't leave a single vote unturned. That's how they do politics here in Chicago, and that is how the Obama campaign operates, too. They don't need Peyton Manning to tell them that.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)since Barack is such a big hoops fan, what about (gulp) LeBron James?
mathematic
(1,439 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:09 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm sorry about that. I was caught up in the analogy. If you want to see my original msg, just check the edit history.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)in this context. Not as if there aren't many athletes you could have compared him to.
mathematic
(1,439 posts)There is no better athlete to substitute for the original sub-thread poster's analogy, as my post points out. Everybody else on the track lets up when they've got the win. And if you're not a track fan or you only watch races that are 20 seconds or less, every four years, then kindly stuff it.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)could you delete the spoiler?
mathematic
(1,439 posts)Fixed it.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)It's actually a rather poor analogy and made by someone who apparently doesn't follow the NFL much. A better comparison would be his brother Eli or perhaps Joe Montana.
I'm sure Peyton is a nice guy and all but he is very easily rattled under pressure. That's always been the rap on him.
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I adore John Kerry but I never thought he was the most inspirational of the democrats running in the 2004 primaries. To me this was one of the first elections where the Internet was used to help organize support for candidates and the ones that seemed to have the most support was folks like Howard Dean, Wesley Clark and Dennis Kucinich. John Kerry's appeal was to the older voters who weren't internet savvy and they voted for the bigger name of the bunch.
I think for many of us, disappointed that it wasn't a fresh face like Dean, Clark or Kucinich still gave all our support to Kerry, but alot of people were like 'Hey anyone but Bush'. I knew that mentality wasn't gonna help us win an election. And honestly, I think that was the same attitude when Mondale ran against Reagan in 1984 - he was 'Anyone but Reagan'.
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama found a way to really connect with voters and inspire them to want to vote especially with young voters and those who may have never voted before in their life. When you have that kind of appeal then you know you have a winning candidate. In 1996, I thought alot of Republicans were voting for Dole because he wasn't Clinton and I hate to say it but alot of republicans are voting for Romney because he's not Obama. Reagan was the last Republican to take down a democratic incumbent but Reagan was the consummate actor who knew how to appeal to his voter base and inspire people to vote for him not settle for him. Unfortunately his VP, Bush Sr, managed to win one election but didn't have the 'Reagan Charisma' to go up against Clinton, the last democrat to unseat an incumbent Republican president.
I think in the end the RNC is going to focus on keeping the house and gaining the senate. Romney is going to crash & Burn during this election cycle and the republicans don't want Romney's unpopularity to trickle down to other races and create a democratic landslide across the nation.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but I respect his athletic play. Do not let up ever. If you do, the momentum can shift. Of course, Romney is reminding me of the Cleveland Browns playing the Steelers.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)We need to get through the conventions and then into the debates. That is when the game matters.
It is great that we have an advantage going into the game but it is to early for forth quarter analogies.
P.S. Couldn't you have picked an athlete who didn't just sit out a season with an injury?
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)...donations will dry up for both parties.
Elections are BIG Business worth $BILLIONS$ to both parties and the Media.
Who is going to send in their Food Money to a candidate who is way ahead
or Way Behind?
It WILL be portrayed as a dramatic horse race up to the very end.
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