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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:40 PM Aug 2012

ACLU files federal lawsuit challenging Missouri prayer amendment

JEFFERSON CITY -- The ACLU of Eastern Missouri filed a lawsuit in federal court Wednesday challenging an amendment to the state's constitution it contends violates the religious rights of prison inmates.

On Tuesday, Missourians overwhelmingly approved the so-called "right to pray" amendment. The measure says the state can't infringe upon public expressions of religious beliefs, that students have the right to voluntarily pray in schools and that all public schools must display a copy of the Bill of Rights.

Not included in the summary that appeared on the ballot, however, was a provision stating the amendment "shall not be construed to expand the rights of prisoners in state or local custody beyond those afforded by the laws of the United States."

Beginning with its first Constitution in 1820, Missouri has provided additional protections for religious liberty beyond federal law, the lawsuit contends. Over the years state courts have agreed.

The amendment approved by voters takes away an existing right from only one group — prisoners— "without a legitimate reason," the lawsuit says. That constitutes a violation of the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause and the First Amendment's protection of religious freedom.


Read more here: http://midwestdemocracy.com/articles/aclu-files-federal-lawsuit-challenging-missouri-prayer-amendment/#storylink=cpy

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ACLU files federal lawsuit challenging Missouri prayer amendment (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 OP
Excellent! Lint Head Aug 2012 #1
So, prisoners are excluded from this right to pray in public? Guess that makes it not a right, then patrice Aug 2012 #2
Two things I don't understand SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #3
1) The point was to pander to he right wing talibornagains proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #6
and bring them out in November pstokely Aug 2012 #12
Haven't students always had the right to reject curriculum that violates their religion? Or was that patrice Aug 2012 #4
Not really proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #7
I had a couple of them opt out of high school Psychology curriculum in Oklahoma some years patrice Aug 2012 #11
Good Robbins Aug 2012 #5
Local school boards will now have their hands full... archiemo Aug 2012 #8
"I can't do my homework because I have to go to church tonight" proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #9
The Bible says pi is 3.0!! longship Aug 2012 #10

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. So, prisoners are excluded from this right to pray in public? Guess that makes it not a right, then
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:56 PM
Aug 2012

doesn't it? but a privilege, instead. And just how did those with this privilege acquire it???

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
3. Two things I don't understand
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:58 PM
Aug 2012

1) The U.S. Constitution already guarantees the right of anyone and everyone to pray in public, so what was the point?
2) Since this amendment mimics rights already available, why are people annoyed by it?

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
6. 1) The point was to pander to he right wing talibornagains
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:03 PM
Aug 2012

2) This goes beyond current rights. Students now have the right to refuse to do certain assignments or take certain classes.

pstokely

(10,531 posts)
12. and bring them out in November
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:40 AM
Aug 2012

but the governor placed it on the August ballot when they would have come out for the repuke Senate primary

patrice

(47,992 posts)
4. Haven't students always had the right to reject curriculum that violates their religion? Or was that
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:04 PM
Aug 2012

just parents could mandate their students' participation in any curriculum? and now that's been extended to students who can just opt-out for themselves???

patrice

(47,992 posts)
11. I had a couple of them opt out of high school Psychology curriculum in Oklahoma some years
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:09 AM
Aug 2012

ago.

Older age group? Non-core curriculum?

Can't remember what it was about now. It wasn't a big deal. I just gave them other work to do.

archiemo

(493 posts)
8. Local school boards will now have their hands full...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:43 PM
Aug 2012

With the plethora of students opting out of assignments/classes because they offend their religious beliefs. Christian Scientists shouldn't have to take that state required health class because they don't believe in scientific medical best practices or medicines, the Christian student now can opt out of that Western Civilization assignment requiring them to study different religions of the world because that would be heresy. We don't have to even think about all of the students that will be excused from biology classes/assignments that dare to broach that crazy evolution talk. The dumbing down of Missouri students just became a lot easier. Truly flabbergasted Missourian here.

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. The Bible says pi is 3.0!!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:23 PM
Aug 2012

And that one ewe + one lamb + milk = an abomination in God's eyes. And don't get me started about the vegetarian dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden.

6015 years!!! 6015 years!!! 6015 years!!!

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