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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 02:41 PM Aug 2018

Can I ask a question here? What in the world in going on in Florida with all the dead marine llife?

I keep seeing memes on Facebook and other sites, but there's never an explanation?

Thousands and thousands of fish and manatees, too

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Can I ask a question here? What in the world in going on in Florida with all the dead marine llife? (Original Post) CatWoman Aug 2018 OP
It's twofold. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #1
Red Tide atreides1 Aug 2018 #2
I was about to ask, "what's red tide"? CatWoman Aug 2018 #7
FREEDOM! Aristus Aug 2018 #3
Red Tide. It's toxic algae. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #4
Red Tide, and blue-green algae. MineralMan Aug 2018 #5
One-two punch - red tides (brevetoxin) plus blue-green algae (so-called) . . . . hatrack Aug 2018 #6
do you think he will suffer repercussions from this? CatWoman Aug 2018 #11
Very possibly - he oversaw the gutting of state environment agency budgets . . . hatrack Aug 2018 #12
How is Nelson responsible. He does not control environmental regulatory bodies like Scott does. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #17
pRick Scott and repug leg. retread Aug 2018 #8
Fuck reggulations. Iggo Aug 2018 #9
Because we are subsidizing an industry we don't even need. HopeAgain Aug 2018 #10
Always an explanation, some choose not post it. beachbum bob Aug 2018 #13
Remember the chemical Corexit? They dumped tons of that crap after the Horizon spill. cwydro Aug 2018 #14
Does anyone know if the Red Tide is expected to go away by tourist season? Poiuyt Aug 2018 #15
Interesing.. We've been having a seal die off problem in Maine Zing Zing Zingbah Aug 2018 #16
That does look bad. Hope scientists find out something fast. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #18
Latest info is that they think the seals are dying from a virus. Zing Zing Zingbah Aug 2018 #19
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. It's twofold.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 02:42 PM
Aug 2018

Big sugar is having a devastating impact. It's what is getting the manatee's and destroying a lot of our waterways. Second is a direct result of global warming and big sugar. Red Tide is increasing in scope and scale.

Much of the hell big sugar is having on our waterways is being written off as red tide.

How the runoff from big sugar is being diverted is devastating. Much from releases from Lake Okeechobee discharge. Green slime and red tide are two different beasts. Yet they both hate wildlife and the rest of the environment.

MineralMan

(146,313 posts)
5. Red Tide, and blue-green algae.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 02:44 PM
Aug 2018

It's worse than ever this year, in part because they have diverted the outflow from Lake Okeechobee to run straight to the Atlantic and Gulf, rather than being dispersed widely via the Everglades.

So, massive amounts of nutrients from farming are flowing into the Atlantic and Gulf and feeding the organisms that result in the toxic bloom.

Stupidity is why, along with global climate change to add to the stress on the environment.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
6. One-two punch - red tides (brevetoxin) plus blue-green algae (so-called) . . . .
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 02:44 PM
Aug 2018

The "algae" is actually a bacterial bloom.

Both are toxic to sea life - fish, marine mammals, shellfish, everything - and as the blooms get bigger, they're getting worse.

Both are naturally occurring, but warming and outflow of ag wastewater, unregulated septic systems and a rainy summer are making things way worse than they would be otherwise.

In fact, it's gotten so bad that Rick Scott has been force to act as if he cares about environmental issues.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
12. Very possibly - he oversaw the gutting of state environment agency budgets . . .
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 03:18 PM
Aug 2018

And layoffs of 100s of employees - scientists, technicians, analysts. Remember that this is the guy who forbade the use of "global warming" and "climate change" in reports.


Now that the cheese has begun to bind (as in cancelled bookings, evaporating fishing charters, beaches covered in dead fish, dead turtles and the occasional dead manatee), he's got a lot of pissed-off voters and steamed business owners on his hands.


Gov. Gollum is trying to blame Bill Nelson, which could work, but hard to say. His own responsibility is substantially larger, I'd argue.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. How is Nelson responsible. He does not control environmental regulatory bodies like Scott does. nt
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 09:27 PM
Aug 2018

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
10. Because we are subsidizing an industry we don't even need.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 03:02 PM
Aug 2018

Big sugar controls much of Florida politics.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. Remember the chemical Corexit? They dumped tons of that crap after the Horizon spill.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:17 PM
Aug 2018

Obama allowed it. Though I voted for him both times, I’ll never forgive or forget that.

All it did was get the problem out of sight, which is what the oil companies wanted.

That stuff will kill forever.

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