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grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:50 AM Aug 2018

More parallels to Hitler's Germany

Over the past few nights I've been watching a series titled "Hitler's Circle of Evil" on Netflix. I'm fascinated by the whole 30s - 40s period (not just the war), and this seemed like an interesting program to watch.

But, given the Republican silence with regards to Manafort/CohenGate, a few tidbits from the series stand out:

One of Hitler's original most trusted officials, Rudolf Hess, took it upon himself to fly to Scotland in 1941 to try to arrange a meeting with Winston Churchill to talk about peace. He was captured and spent the rest of his life in prison.

Two other top Nazis, Heinrich Himmler and Hermann Göring, tried to arrange talks with the Allies not long before Hitler committed suicide. In one of his last statements, Hitler referred to both of them as traitors. Both also committed suicide.

There were others, but the fact that these three, especially, tried to distance themselves from Hitler when they realized what was coming speaks volumes for the current Republican silence.

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More parallels to Hitler's Germany (Original Post) grumpyduck Aug 2018 OP
Hess was trying to contact the Duke of Hamilton, not Churchill. VMA131Marine Aug 2018 #1
As far as we know, Hess grumpyduck Aug 2018 #4
Trump is now threatening the stock market Turbineguy Aug 2018 #2
The rallies. no_hypocrisy Aug 2018 #3
I wasn't there (not even close) grumpyduck Aug 2018 #5

VMA131Marine

(5,155 posts)
1. Hess was trying to contact the Duke of Hamilton, not Churchill.
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 12:01 PM
Aug 2018

"Hess continued to be interested in aviation, learning to fly the more advanced aircraft that were coming into development at the start of World War II. On 10 May 1941 he undertook a solo flight to Scotland, where he hoped to arrange peace talks with the Duke of Hamilton, whom he believed to be prominent in opposition to the British government. Hess was immediately arrested on his arrival and was held in British custody until the end of the war, "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
4. As far as we know, Hess
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:59 PM
Aug 2018

was hoping the Duke could arrange an introduction to Churchill, but the Duke wasn't having any of it.

Another story suggests that Hess instead wanted to meet with King George VI to talk him into sacking Churchill and arranging peace with Germany. And still another story was that part of this was to try to keep the U.S out of the war.

In any case, it appears that Hess acted on his own and that Hitler got royally pissed off at him, which indicates that he wasn't acting on behalf of Hitler.

no_hypocrisy

(54,147 posts)
3. The rallies.
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:34 PM
Aug 2018

That many Germans were not forced to attend. They gladly showed up. Mob psychology. Individual critical thought was mostly dead during the Third Reich.

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
5. I wasn't there (not even close)
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 02:06 PM
Aug 2018

but I suspect that there was a certain amount of pressure (either peer pressure or government pressure) for people to show up and be seen at the rallies. Nothing unusual about that. Geez, even back in high school, there was a lot of peer pressure to attend football games and show "school spirit."

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