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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,028 posts)
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:37 PM Aug 2018

Why Trump Will Never Lose Evangelical Support

Trump loves evangelicals. White evangelicals voted for him by more than a 4-1 margin in 2016, and their support has only grown since he assumed office. On Monday, Trump brought over 100 of these Christian leaders to the White House to listen to a sermon about the doom that awaits should the Democrats win control of Congress this November. The left will “overturn everything that we’ve done and they’ll do it quickly and violently,” said the president, whose remarks were revealed Tuesday after audio of the closed-door meeting was leaked.

“They will end everything immediately,” Trump added. “When you look at antifa and you look at some of these groups, these are violent people.” The president did not elaborate on why he believes a favorable result for Democrats this fall would incite violence from antifa, or how the left could potentially use violence to reverse what the Trump administration has accomplished for the evangelical community. White House spokesperson Hogan Gidley declined to explain what the president meant by the comments, according to the New York Times.

“The level of hatred, the level of anger is unbelievable,” Trump continued. “Part of it is because of some of the things I’ve done for you and for me and for my family, but I’ve done them.” He added that November is “very much a referendum on not only me, it’s a referendum on your religion, it’s a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment.”

No group laps up Trump’s fire-and-brimstone rhetoric like evangelicals, and no evangelical has meant more to the president than Jerry Falwell, Jr. The Liberty University president and former “spiritual adviser” to Trump was in attendance at the White House Monday night. In recent weeks, he’s taken an aggressive approach to those he perceives to be Trump’s enemies, including Attorney General Jeff Sessions, whom Falwell, Jr. denounced earlier on Monday, explaining to Politico that he “really is not on the president’s team.”

Falwell, Jr. is only the latest Trump ally to publicly question whether Sessions should retain his position as attorney general. His opinion means a lot to the president, as he was one of Trump’s earliest supporters. In January 2016, he invited Trump to speak at Liberty University, an appearance that built the foundation for the evangelical support Trump — then still a long shot.

“We’re going to protect Christianity,” Trump said to packed auditorium. “I can say that. I don’t have to be politically correct.” He then consulted a piece of paper to recite a Bible verse. “Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame,” Trump said. “Where the spirit of the Lord is, there’s liberty. Here, there is Liberty College. Liberty University. It’s so true. Is that the one you like? I think that’s the one you like. I loved it. It’s so representative of what has taken place.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-evangelicals-716947/

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. It really is, along with heterosexism/homophobia.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 02:15 AM
Aug 2018

Absent racism alone, the Republican Party would cease to be viable. And I include xenophobia, as it's really just a fear of certain (i.e., brown-skinned) foreigners.

In a society in which racism and sexism has been greatly diminished, there wouldn't be sufficient support for right wing economic policy, right wing health care policy, right wing environmental policy (and so on) in order for the GOP to survive as a national party. The sooner we put greater emphasis on doing the hard work of making that happen, the better off we'll be. But you still have people clinging to the "it's all about economics and (white) economic anxiety" argument, which is both ridiculous and detrimental.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Slowly but surely he is losing them.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:51 PM
Aug 2018

Maybe not the leaders, although a few has left, but the base is getting weary of t-rump and for their leaders for supporting such an evil person.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
4. He seems to imply that Democrats are members of antifa.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:52 PM
Aug 2018

I know I am. Just went to a meeting tonight. Have to make plans, you know.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
7. Me too I'm absolutely anti-fascist
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:45 PM
Aug 2018

So I take republicans with their anti anti fascist stance. Are officially telling us they are pro fascist?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. The evangelicals are at their Waterloo and the battle has yet to be fought
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:54 PM
Aug 2018

Either they are successful in bring about their desired Theocracy, which is possible but unlikely, or we are seeing their swan song. You can’t remain in power claiming to be the party of god unless you have the power of the state to suppress the majority that disagrees. They have thrown off all pretenses of godliness and embraced evil to achieve their goals. Their ability to grow is ended and they know it.

This posted by a freethinker.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
10. I hold these truths to be self-evident:
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:40 AM
Aug 2018

If you are ignorant enough to follow these charlatan frauds to church, you probably missed the whole "critical thinking" class in school.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
13. It's not just Trump, it's Republicans in general they're attached to.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 02:14 AM
Aug 2018

This analysis isn't quite correct. Their leaders are basically an extension of the Republican Party, and as such carry the water for them in their sermons from their pulpits. There's nothing new there, they're in essence a massive super PAC with zero restrictions. Trump is trying to give their followers what the leaders of these churches told him they want to hear. It's a con all the way around. No one is sincere, it's all just a manipulation of the lesser people who are susceptible to such easy manipulation.

What they're having to condone, and embrace here is a new level of hypocrisy. They may hemorrhage a few "stray sheep" before this atrocity is over. They're just thinking the loss is worth their personal gain to continue supporting the Republican hand that feeds them.

They're basically dancing with the one who brought them, faith and beliefs be damned. It's become their mantra since they embedded themselves into the Republican Party and that's not about to be swayed by a serial adulterous man who engaged in illicit sex with porn stars. No more than allegations of him accosting women, along with a lurid tape of him admitting such, sway them.

That's just now who they are and it's false to view them as literal historical "Christian" types rather than the modern model they've evolved into.

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