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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:59 PM Aug 2018

New study: Cheese prevents death (seriously)

From NBC News

It's time to reconsider low-dairy diets, new study suggests

Cheese and yogurt were found to protect against death from any cause, and also against death from cerebrovascular causes, like stroke.

Nutritional guidelines often recommend a low-fat diet, despite a lack of consensus among medical experts as to whether a low-fat diet is beneficial to heart health. This means that dairy products, with their relatively high fat content, are on the "eat sparingly" list.

But new research, presented Tuesday at the annual congress of the European Society of Cardiology, suggests that the current advice to limit dairy intake should be reconsidered, especially for those who consume yogurt and cheese as opposed to milk.

“The consumption of dairy products has long been thought to increase the risk of death, particularly from coronary heart disease, cerebrovascular disease and cancer, because of dairy’s relatively high levels of saturated fat," the society said in a news release. "Yet evidence for any such link, especially among U.S. adults, is inconsistent.”

Whole milk still appears to increase the risk of heart disease, although the study authors did not quantify how great the increase was. But most other dairy products, especially cheese and yogurt, were found to protect against both total mortality — death from any cause — and mortality from cerebrovascular causes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/it-s-time-reconsider-low-dairy-diets-new-study-suggests-n904491?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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New study: Cheese prevents death (seriously) (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Aug 2018 OP
Blessed are the cheesemakers. nycbos Aug 2018 #1
LOL Zoonart Aug 2018 #6
Quoting the Gouda Book tonight? NotASurfer Aug 2018 #57
Everything is better with cheese on it. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #2
Cheesus is my savior. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #3
Great Minds think alike I hear, except you're faster (glad I read this before copycatting) The Polack MSgt Aug 2018 #12
It's fun to say and now it can be said with reason. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #16
LOL - Now that needs to be on a bumper sticker! 🧀 procon Aug 2018 #13
I'm pretty sure it already is one. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #14
... ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #22
Don't we all? Solly says as she prepares to eat a wedge. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #23
Laughing Cow wedges are the best! ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #24
All 3. Make it a cheese trinity evening. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #25
My son GeoWilliam750 Aug 2018 #29
Love cheese malaise Aug 2018 #32
I was thinking of making a ricotta pie. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #36
I made two Mac and cheese pies on Sunday malaise Aug 2018 #37
M&C pie and a side of greens. I'm hungry now. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #39
Two years ago I had a student who made mac cheese and sweet potato pie ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #44
I'm hungry now malaise Aug 2018 #46
I'm immortal! johnp3907 Aug 2018 #4
Me, too! DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #34
Well, that's all the more incentive to take back Wisconsin from the republicans in November Submariner Aug 2018 #5
well, that's damned good news, given my incredible cheese-yogurt (homemade) consumption.. hlthe2b Aug 2018 #7
I make that too, and it's so much butter than the store bought stuff. procon Aug 2018 #15
Only problem with cheese is exboyfil Aug 2018 #8
Well, I'm done for. I have never eaten cheese. panader0 Aug 2018 #9
ROFL malaise Aug 2018 #33
It's so funny that you say that! phylny Aug 2018 #35
Asians eat plenty of fermented foods superpatriotman Aug 2018 #54
Cheese, the ultimate drug Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #10
To embellish the poet -- packman Aug 2018 #11
Reminds me of this: trackfan Aug 2018 #17
Let us pray. volstork Aug 2018 #18
Praise cheeses lunasun Aug 2018 #19
Born and raised in Wisconsin Bettie Aug 2018 #20
Wow I'm gonna live forever! LOL workinclasszero Aug 2018 #21
Nothing in the universe is more disgusting than cheese Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #26
I don't eat much cheese. Blue_true Aug 2018 #47
It's okay that you feel that way about cheese, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #51
Then I'll have cheesetoast for supper. nt raccoon Aug 2018 #27
All studies like this are BS. Next week cheese will be bad again. Vinca Aug 2018 #28
Hear, hear GeoWilliam750 Aug 2018 #31
Woman . . . but thank you for "wise." LOL. Vinca Aug 2018 #41
I love Cabot Extra Sharp Cheddar. Old Croc Sharp Cheddar is my current favorite. Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #58
I was hoping wine MontanaMama Aug 2018 #30
That's it, I'm moving to France. nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2018 #38
I hope this also includes my nightly low-fat icecream. Bayard Aug 2018 #40
Perhaps I have been misinformed... GeoWilliam750 Aug 2018 #43
Burrata for everyone! ornotna Aug 2018 #42
I'm going to live forever then! ellie Aug 2018 #45
Yogurt and some cheese are good probiotic sources csziggy Aug 2018 #48
That's the first thing that came to mind Duppers Aug 2018 #49
Kombucha? superpatriotman Aug 2018 #55
Yeah - they listed a number of things I am not tempted to even try csziggy Aug 2018 #56
This might explain why I'm still alive. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #50
The real problem is that in this country certain foods get demonized, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #52
So cutting it shortens life-expectancy? Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #53

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
24. Laughing Cow wedges are the best!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:53 PM
Aug 2018

Or maybe it's crumbled blue cheese in a salad that is best.

It very well could be warm brie on crostini.

Oh Cheesus, help me make a final decision!

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
29. My son
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 05:33 PM
Aug 2018

It seems that you have long journeyed in earnest search of the righteous whey.

Yet know ye that the only true path to bliss is through aged English Cheddar - lots of it.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
37. I made two Mac and cheese pies on Sunday
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 05:56 PM
Aug 2018

I baked one and froze the other. I was watching the food channel and saw one that looked great.
I usually bake a cheese, potato and veggie casserole for Christmas dinner, but I don't make Mac and cheese that often.
My Miami sis makes the best turkey lasanga on the planet.

As an aside I swear the Food Network is owned by big pharma. Those Carnival treats will kill you.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
44. Two years ago I had a student who made mac cheese and sweet potato pie
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 07:37 PM
Aug 2018

We are talking two turkey basting pans full of mac cheese and like six sweet potato pies. All homemade by her.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
5. Well, that's all the more incentive to take back Wisconsin from the republicans in November
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:06 PM
Aug 2018

It would make it a little easier to enjoy a Green Bay Packers game too.

procon

(15,805 posts)
15. I make that too, and it's so much butter than the store bought stuff.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:33 PM
Aug 2018

I add a little salt, pepper and garlic, and sometimes mix in a little minced green or purple onions, jalapenos, olives, capers, or fresh herbs... tummy yummy! Makes me drool just thinking about it. Gotta go shopping and make a batch this weekend.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
8. Only problem with cheese is
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:08 PM
Aug 2018

that it is calorie dense. It isn't eating it, but eating too much of it (yes I am guilty).

I don't drink much milk. I get my calcium from Greek yogurt, cheese, and Romaine lettuce.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
9. Well, I'm done for. I have never eaten cheese.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:09 PM
Aug 2018

But really, have you ever seen cheese on a Chinese menu?
Does China have more people than any other country?
This study may be from Wisconsin.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. To embellish the poet --
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:19 PM
Aug 2018

A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread (A slice of ripen cheese)— and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness —

This would be heaven to a hungry man

And - of course - A little bit of fermented curd

?t=2

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
20. Born and raised in Wisconsin
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:35 PM
Aug 2018

life without cheese isn't a life at all....and one of my kids won't eat cheese, which seems....bizarre to me. I mean, CHEESE!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
26. Nothing in the universe is more disgusting than cheese
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 05:03 PM
Aug 2018

I despise the sight, the smell, the taste and even the knowledge that it exists.

I can't imagine anyone tolerates it, let alone actually likes it.

As I posted in the Lounge a few months ago, if I had a choice of eliminating either Donald Trump or cheese from the planet, I suppose I'd pick Donald Trump, but not without considerable trembling and second guessing. It would be almost inconceivable to pass up an opportunity to get rid of such a ghastly element.

Anyone who asks, "Would you like cheese on that?" should be automatically hoisted to the rafters with their head smacking on a sharply pointed ceiling. And then the cord cut to a deserved applause-accompanying plop to the ground.

Then a repeat, just in case the lesson wasn't learned the first time.

Followed by large spiked boots to the back.

However, I like greek yogurt and have some every night, mixing in some organic flaxseed meal. So I'll be happy with that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
47. I don't eat much cheese.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 08:58 PM
Aug 2018

But I know one thing, the best cheese, when it is first exposed to air, have me looking around to see whether someone broke wind. The best cheese always has a bold aroma.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
51. It's okay that you feel that way about cheese,
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 09:56 PM
Aug 2018

but please keep in mind that lots of us love the stuff.

Shall I go into my rant about cilantro?

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
28. All studies like this are BS. Next week cheese will be bad again.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 05:24 PM
Aug 2018

Ignore them all, buy some Vermont Cabot Extra Sharp cheddar and enjoy a dish of mac and cheese.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
43. Perhaps I have been misinformed...
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 06:47 PM
Aug 2018

But I have always thought that the five basic food groups are:

Beer
Pizza
Burgers
Ice Cream
Beer

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
48. Yogurt and some cheese are good probiotic sources
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 09:18 PM
Aug 2018

According to an article I just read. I wonder if that aspect makes a difference?

11 Probiotic Foods That Are Super Healthy

<SNIP>

11. Some Types of Cheese

Although most types of cheese are fermented, it does not mean that all of them contain probiotics.

Therefore, it is important to look for live and active cultures on the food labels.

The good bacteria survive the aging process in some cheeses, including Gouda, mozzarella, cheddar and cottage cheese (35, 36).

Cheese is highly nutritious and a very good source of protein. It is also rich in important vitamins and minerals, including calcium, vitamin B12, phosphorus and selenium (37).

More: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-super-healthy-probiotic-foods


I was looking for alternative sources for probiotics. Kefir is another one they recommended and I may try it.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
56. Yeah - they listed a number of things I am not tempted to even try
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:20 PM
Aug 2018

Most are fermented so I guess whatever provides the fermentation in those things is considered a probiotic.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
52. The real problem is that in this country certain foods get demonized,
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 09:57 PM
Aug 2018

certain others get sanctified, and then it all changes.

Eating real food, not too much, and mostly vegetables is still good advice.

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