"My name's Joe Biden. I'm a Democrat. And I love John McCain."

[Gothmog]

Link to tweet

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

1. Hey Joe, your buddy McCain denied poor people basic healthcare here in the richest country on Earth

resulting in countless deaths. Oh, and let's no forget all the deaths of innocents due to McCain's warmongering. I cry for THEM!!!!!

[mr_lebowski]

3. Really?

This is gonna be the first post on this thread?

Sad ...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

4. Very sad.. for those people I mentioned.

[Stinky The Clown]

11. GO AWAY

That is incredibly inappropriate today.

Your sentiments in this time and place are disgusting.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Yeah, let's not also remember the deaths of innocent people who

could have been saved had it not been for inhumane policies of a certain someone.

[saidsimplesimon]

72. thank you, I agree.

[BannonsLiver]

29. Getting a head start on the 2020 barbs?

[GulfCoast66]

100. For the win! All threats will be destroyed.

[tymorial]

23. They cant help themselves

[book_worm]

31. Of course, this is DU

[saidsimplesimon]

71. I agree.

[olegramps]

116. Only the first of many that have followed. Yes indeed...very sad.

[stonecutter357]

5. Disgusting comment !

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. Sorry, don't expect me to laud a cruel evil Rethug like McCain...

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I won't dance on his grave, but I won't EVER forget the human beings who suffered and died because of his evil policies.

[Stinky The Clown]

12. Good. So GO AWAY.

What a terrible person you are for these words.

[cwydro]

34. Thank you.

Classlessness alive and well as always.

[stonecutter357]

15. #facknews ! #Hyperbole !

[guillaumeb]

26. I agree with you on this.

I would not say something like this at a funeral, but if we ignore what these GOP politicians actually do, why are we at DU discussing anything?

We must remember history if we are to fight for change.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. Excellent points... glad someone here gets it.

[guillaumeb]

106. I was happy to agree with your points.

Considering you are correct.

[NCTraveler]

67. I love getting the chance to agree with you.

We probably agree on a lot of things.

How McCain is portrayed last week and this week is how he will be remembered. I know how this works. Why we are painting him as we are is beyond me. It's very disrespectful, in my opinion. Whitewashing history sucks.

[guillaumeb]

105. Agreed on all points.

Whitewash is fine on a fence.

[MyNameGoesHere]

59. It's cool to point out the dead guys transgressions I guess

How are you on the living? Maybe Channel some of that on somebody who isn't fucking dead.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. Will do... I mean, it's not like those two things are mutually exclusive...

Besides, I'm more focused on the PEOPLE who suffered and died from those transgressions, than the transgressions themselves. I simply pointed out that I mourn for those people TOO!!

[saidsimplesimon]

73. thanks stonecutter

[Autumn]

6. I join you in mourning them also.

I will not mourn Republicans who denied others their needs. Republican policies harm people. John McCain was a Republican to the end.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. Thank you! Someone who gets it!

[Autumn]

50. I get that McCain was decent to Biden's son and that was kind. But

there were a lot of sons and daughters that didn't have the privilege of being Biden's son. They got fucked. Where was the concern for them? Absent.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. THANK YOU!!!! The sounds you hear are crickets for THOSE lost souls... chirp, chirp!!

[Tipperary]

58. Why piss on a fellow duer's thread? Make you feel cool?

As others said, go start your own. I am certain you will find some classless folks to jump on your ugly bandwagon.

[saidsimplesimon]

75. Tipperary, thank you for staying classy

[Hekate]

21. Buzz off

[Autumn]

22. No I will not buzz off. Ignore my post if you don't like what I have to say

[LanternWaste]

7. I'd suggest you start a thread celebrating his death.

Seems that would be much more appropriate venue for your self-righteousness than this one.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. LOL... who's CELEBRATING his death? Certainly not me...

but, let's not lionize someone who does not deserve to be celebrated. BIG DIFFERENCE!!

[tymorial]

24. You are full of it.

If you are going to be self righteous then own it.

[elmac]

30. Just for the record, I agree, you have not posted anything on this thread

about celebrating JM's death. I'm not a fan of McCain the republican but I respect his pre politician service before he went to the dark side. But, being freed from the constraints of fascism at the very end he did stop the fascists from killing ACA. For that, he gets a pass.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. Fair enough...and, for the record, thanks for reading my comments precisely as they were intended.

To argue that mourning the deaths of innocent people who died due to the mean-spirited, indeed, evil policies promoted by Sen. McCain is celebrating HIS death is beyond ridiculous.

[stonecutter357]

97. Are you an American citizen?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

99. Are you?

[stonecutter357]

118. My family has been in Alabama since the 1690's !

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

119. Wow, you sure got me beat, by a country mile... roll tide!!

[Hekate]

20. Buzz off

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. Same.

[dweller]

109. in case you missed it

Buzz Off x2

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

114. Too bad all those innocents who suffered and died aren't here to tell you the same.

[nolabear]

27. I pity anyone who dares call you friend.

Apparently that’s a hell of a purity test to pass.

[BannonsLiver]

38. +1

It's sad when folks are so myopic they define others entirely by their politics.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. Yeah, not being responsible for untold suffering and death... that's a real high hurdle!

That's McCain's legacy... I would never dance on his grave, but I think we should also remember and mourn those who suffered and died due to the cruel policies he promoted. That's really all I'm saying.

[George II]

28. Sheesh...........I guess you missed this:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

61. I didn't miss that... I've credited Sen. McCain many times for that vote.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't mourn ALSO for all those OTHER PEOPLE who suffered and died under vile Rethug policies that he promoted.

[pazzyanne]

69. You are a one trick pony and this is disgusting IMHO.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

93. LOL... I see what you're doing!! You're good.

[stonecutter357]

120. I disagree with what you say a lot of the time But !

Let me know when you start your own thread and I will BUMP it ...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

121. Okay, sure.

[madamesilverspurs]

32. Doesn't matter what point you are trying to make,

hijacking a thread is just plain rude. There are far more effective ways of getting your opinion out there.


.

[cwydro]

36. Go start your own thread.

And hey, stay classy.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. Will do.

[sandensea]

44. I agree - but keep in mind this is an eulogy thread.

Besides, he did stop Cheeto and Bitchy Mitchy from repealing Obamacare outright last year.

There was also McCain-Feingold - the first real attempt at pulling our campaign finance system out of the third-world style opaqueness and corruption it's been mired in for so many years. It would still be the law of the land, of course, had it not been for Citizens United.

So while there's much to criticize in his record, he was on our side a good number of times.

He was no maverick - but he was a really decent man compared to most of today's Republicans. Just imagine what his successor will probably be like!

[DownriverDem]

47. Hello?

John McCain cast the vote that saved the ACA.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. I certainly give him credit for that vote... but, I can still mourn for all the innocent people

who died due to ruthless, evil Rethug policies, which he also promoted and voted for.

[shenmue]

49. Grow the fuck up. Do not speak ill of the dead.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Okay, going back now and deleting all of my post-mortem comments about

Ronny Raygun, Strom Thurmond, Justice Scalia... the list is endless... gonna take me awhile.

[moriah]

103. At least they're all in the ground already.

I admit a week is a long time -- according to some, long enough to create a universe AND have a day of rest -- but you're harshing the mellow of this wonderful mix of self-righteousness and schadenfreude I've got going on watching Democrats able to muster a few kind words while Republicans thoroughly embarrass themselves trashing him. Some Rs started while his heart was still beating its last, others while he was still warm... saying shit they'd have had apoplexy over if we'd said in the 2008 election.

After all, what's the point of pissing on a grave before they're in it?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

107. No one's pissing on his grave, but, doesn't mean we have to hero worship a vile Rethuglican either.

[moriah]

115. You hear lots of one-liners in the South to explain certain customs...

... we have. One of which is just that it Isn't Done to speak ill of the freshly dead.

And when I asked what the difference was -- I knew they'd talked all sorts of shit about long-dead relatives, and I was young but still old enough to know at least one person making nice at the funeral we'd all just attended hated the deceased's guts and was shocked to see her there, and not even the complicated love/hate thing that can happen with relatives -- my sassy older cousin piped up with:

Cousin: "Oh, honey, she's just being polite. After all, what's the point of pissing on an empty grave? She knows his mom is hurting."

Me: "But why'd she even come?"

Cousin: "How'd else could she know for sure which grave was his later?"

Everyone roared, but by this time he *was* in the ground.

[Hekate]

111. "A week is a long time..." Love this post, all of it. Ta, moriah.

[NCTraveler]

65. I was going to take the day off of making sure people remember the whole McCain.

I'll simply step in here and give you a +1.

[disillusioned73]

68. +2

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

85. I'll see your +1 and raise you +1

[disillusioned73]

66. This nonsense has gotten out of hand...

"McCain was not, generally speaking, a man of strong beliefs. One of the most honest things he ever said was that he didn’t run for president to enact reforms or out of some “grand sense of patriotism,” but simply because “it had become my ambition to be president.” If anything, he often seemed bored by domestic issues, and was even famous after a fashion for “reaching across the aisle” on matters like campaign finance.

But he did have one unshakeable conviction: Wherever America had a foreign policy problem, the solution was always to bomb the fuck out of someone."

[link:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/mccain-support-war-716416/|

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. Yes, "bomb the fuck out of someone" pretty much sums it up...

which is why I also mourn for those pepole who suffered and died unnecessarily.

[melman]

87. Yes it has

It's absolutely ridiculous at this point.

[olegramps]

70. For you then: The good man does is inturned with their bones, the evil lives after them.

Was he perfect, the answer applies to each and every soul who by the grace of their mothers they drew the first breath, No! McCain ventured and risk far more the pious who can sit back wrapped in a cloak of sanctimonious self rightousness throw down the thunderbolts of condemnation that fizzle like a muffled fart in a wind storm. The silence of my parting with stand in stark contrast that of John McCain's whose life is a testimony to the troubled world that none would wish to inherit. I can only say that if faced with his challenges, I can hope that I had the fortitude to persevere as he demonstrated.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. No, what should live on are the memories of the good people who suffered and died

unnecessarily, due to evil Rethuglican policies, and, yes, we should mourn for them too.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

102. The opinion of Joe Biden means a whole lot more to me

than that of some rando on the internet whose implied message seems to be I Hate All Republicans No Matter Who They Are Which Proves I'm Ever So Much More Progressive Than The Rest Of You.

[Hekate]

112. +1000 for that, Ocelot

[treestar]

104. how so, wasn't he one of the Rs who

refused the repeal of the ACA?

[stonecutter357]

2. Joe Biden 2020 !

[Gothmog]

25. I would support Joe if he ran

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

122. Certainly, if Joe runs and somehow manages to win the nomination...

without a doubt!

[Gothmog]

123. If Joe runs, who will stop him?

[Dem_4_Life]

8. Biden is really making me cry.

[titaniumsalute]

9. Very very well done by Biden

But a side note...whomever the fuck was directing the camera crew needs to be punched in the face! Were they recreating the camera work of NYPD Blue or something? This is a fucking funeral. HOLD STILL! I need a Dramamine.

[grantcart]

17. +1

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

94. Yeah, I wanted to puke too by the end... yes, camera work WAS awful.

And, yes, Biden did give a heartfelt eulogy... gotta give him that.

[Stinky The Clown]

16. I was about to post something similar.

I'm right there with you - despite the louts who have posted their "sentiments" here.

[Bengus81]

18. Man....what a eulogy!! Biden for PRESIDENT 2020!!

How damn refreshing to hear someone speak with SANENESS..........

[Hekate]

19. I am still in tears from Joe's eulogy. "1996--that was when it changed."

I caught it all, and I'm glad.

[quickesst]

33. The hateful replies......

.... really are disgusting. They may hate Senator McCain and they may not respect him, but one would think that they would have enough class to respect fellow Democrats who choose to acknowledge John McCain's passing with respect and some admiration. Expressing hatred for John McCain while disrespecting fellow Democrats? That's a step beyond disgusting.

[More_Cowbell]

41. I have not seen any disrespect toward Democrats from the OP

However, "a step beyond disgusting" does seem disrespectful to me.

[quickesst]

81. Really?

What bullshit. Those hate-filled posts absolutely disrespected those Democrats who participated in this thread in order to show a little respect at the passing of Senator McCain. They showed disrespect to former Vice President Joe Biden. They show disrespect for the upcoming eulogy that Barack Obama will present on Saturday. A step above disgusting is putting it lightly.

[GulfCoast66]

101. Once you realize the attacks are really not about McCain

The pieces fall together.

[quickesst]

108. yeah

Like I said, the proof is in the thread itself.

[DownriverDem]

48. For sure

It sure seems like they are bots.

[quickesst]

83. I don't know about bots

Unfortunately, they sound all too human to me.

[Hav]

62. It's amazing

It's seems that some can't understand the connection to Biden's son and a friendship that existed over decades.
But then again, this might not even be fully motivated by a hatred of McCain but a fear that Biden could run in 2020.

[quickesst]

86. That sort of rhetoric

.... Is a slap in the face to Joe Biden and Barack Obama. Two wonderful Democrats who lost a genuine friend.

[NoMoreRepugs]

35. U don't have to respect his voting record to respect the man.

[BannonsLiver]

84. And I think apart from some sad, misguided, empty folks, those in this thread have done that.

[NoMoreRepugs]

90. agree.

[jalan48]

39. Love? Ok.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. You can say that again!!

[Tipperary]

76. Lol. I guess they can't.

[GusBob]

77. I missed it! What did the poster say?

Can you say it again please?

[Hekate]

113. Huh

I saw what you did there.

[Roadside Attraction]

52. November 2020

I'm voting for Slow Joe for President, November 2020

[marieo1]

53. I'm a democrat

I highly admire and respect Joe Biden. When he needs to speak up, he does. This was not the time. Thank you, Joe Biden. I disagreed with John McCain on a lot of issues but he was still a kind man.

[riversedge]

55. McCain just took off for DC, his last flight. I tuned in on and off today.

And of course I seldom agreed with most of his policies. But Biden did well today. I am glad McCain had a good send off.

[saidsimplesimon]

79. Classy response riversedge

I had hoped dear joe would limit his remarks. While I respect Mr. Biden, he spends too much time making an eulogy about himself, imo. (I timed his remarks compared to others that were more succinct.)

[Gothmog]

64. Joe Biden on glioblastoma, disease that took John McCain, Ted Kennedy and his son Beau.

Link to tweet

[Lucinda]

74. KNR

[tavernier]

80. Thank you for your post.

I missed the coverage earlier.
It is very difficult to watch a friend eulogizing his buddy.
Even more difficult to do it. Joe is a first class human.

[Gothmog]

92. Joe Biden recalls when he and John McCain used to sit together in the Senate.

Link to tweet

[Docreed2003]

89. Beautiful post Gothmog

Thank you for sharing!

[Gothmog]

91. "Even though John is no longer with us," Joe Biden says, "he left us pretty clear instructions

Link to tweet

[VOX]

96. Thank you, Gothmog. Comradeship and loss know no political party.

And I love Joe Biden.

[mcar]

98. I just watched it

Not for McCain, but for Joe.

What a man!

[JI7]

110. Even the Vietnamese who personally fought with him are Mourning his Death

and have good things to say about him.

[Gothmog]

117. CNN panel reveals how Joe Biden's eulogy for John McCain destroyed Donald Trump without even mention

Link to tweet