"Plus-sized model 'cried when asked to be cover model' "

[EX500rider]

"US plus-size model Tess Holliday says she cried when asked to be on the front cover of Cosmopolitan's UK magazine.
She tells Victoria Derbyshire it was "ground-breaking" for someone of her body shape to be given such prominence."

So they outlawed anorexic models from appearing in print in the EU as unhealthy role models but then think this is OK as a role model for young girls? Don't think I agree with that, both seem unhealthy to me.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-45356346/plus-sized-model-cried-when-asked-to-be-cover-model


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[KCDebbie]

1. You go, Girl!

[drray23]

2. That's not plus size its morbidly obese

And is no more healthy than anorexia.

[EX500rider]

4. Yeah I was shocked when I saw her pic, I thought she was going to be 20 or 30 lbs over weight..

Not the 100+ she must be. Just seems strange being under weight is not allowed on magazine covers in Europe due to heath issues but this is?

[DavidDvorkin]

17. Yes

You're absolutely right.

[demsocialist]

20. yeah

quite embarrassing.

[Demovictory9]

45. that is plus size, clothes wise. plus size is a clothing category

[uppityperson]

3. Good for her.

[LanternWaste]

5. I'm guessing a lot of dudes will suddenly be concerned about the health of women on magazine covers

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...for the very first time in their lives. Well, that's what the excuse will be, anyways.

[Bonx]

11. Let's celebrate morbid obesity.

Nah.

[MrsCoffee]

34. Yet for years men had no problem celebrating anorexia.

How about we just celebrate people.

That ok with you?

[LanternWaste]

46. You're the only one making that argument. Hope you're not triggered.

My only point is that many males will, for the first time ever, pretend to be concerned about the health of models on a magazine cover.

Try to keep up and bless your little heart.

[GoCubsGo]

31. Good guess.

[unblock]

6. i think it's great. it's not about restricting the modeling world to healthy-weighted people.

health issues aside, it makes no sense not to have models that reflect the population. it's crazy to advertise clothing that looks great on thin women and then overweight women try to go shopping and it doesn't look good on them, if they can find it in their size at all. it makes far more sense to have overweight models advertise clothing for overweight customers.

second, the problem with anorexic models was that it had become the norm in the industry and the perceived ideal, leading many healthy women to have an unhealthy view of their normal-weighted body, and leading many women (both in the modeling industry and out) to try to lose an unhealthy amount of weight, to not eat properly, to purge, etc. the problem was not only including ultra-thin models on covers, but also *avoiding* models who were normal-weight because they "weren't thin enough".

unless the narratives about body shapes changes drastically, no one's going to look at this cover and say "i need to gain weight." with plus-sized women, there are issues around acceptance, and having a model like this on a cover of a major magazine helps with that -- which could not only help with the acceptance issue, but as a result actually help them get down to a more healthy weight.

if the modeling industry actually starts avoiding healthy-weight women in favor of plus-sized women and telling normal-weight women that they need to put on more weight, then we might have the beginnings of a problem. but i think we're a loooong way from that.

[Ms. Toad]

15. Than you. n/t

[java108]

7. A plus-size model lands a cover on a major fashion mag...

...and suddenly everyone's an authority on health and nutrition.

I think it's great. Tess Holliday is beautiful the way she is. Good on her.

[EX500rider]

9. I doubt you would find many doctors who would think she was at a healthy body weight.

[MrsCoffee]

36. Nor are most models.

[LanternWaste]

47. Your rationalization would hold water if, and only if...

that sentiment was applied consistently to the swimsuit models praised, deified and ogled on DU every time the SI swimsuit issue appears.

But, as this is the first time many males are expressing concern about women's health, I call it for what it is... simply another justification.

[a kennedy]

32. Exactly, and welcome to DU

[GoCubsGo]

33. Yep. Thank you. n/t

And, welcome!

[Squinch]

8. I'm sorry but that is terribly unhealthy. The anorexic models we frequently see should not be

glamorized, and neither should this.

[unblock]

16. She's not posing for the cover of jama.

Please my post #6

[Squinch]

19. Yeah, I saw it. I still think unhealthy over or under weight should not be glamorized.

[unblock]

22. she's not being "glamorized"

in the sense that no one is going to see that and think they need to put on weight to be more like her.

she's being *validated* and people her size are being *recognized* and *represented*.

[Squinch]

24. We disagree. Leave it at that.

[unblock]

26. fair enough. best we make them think they should be hiding in shame, that sounds real healthy.

because cosmo is all about health.

[Squinch]

29. I guess you can't leave it at that. I'm a health professional. This

is as unhealthy as putting an anorexic woman on a magazine cover. It glamorizes dangerous obesity the same as those covers glamorize anorexia.

But also, in the real world, refraining from putting someone on a magazine is a little different from telling them to hide in shame.

Out of curiosity, did you protest when magazines stopped using anorexic models because models were dying? If not why not? By your definition, doing that relegated anorexic women to hiding in shame. By your definition we should be recognizing anorexic women and acknowledging them by putting them in Cosmo covers.

Enjoy your hyperbole and have a nice night.

[EX500rider]

38. Being on the cover of Cosmo is the very definition of "glamorized".

[unblock]

41. "in the sense that no one is going to see that and think they need to put on weight to be

more like her"

please don't take that one word contrary to context as i explained it because the explanation is the point, not the word.

if you want to say she's "glamorized because she's on a cover cosmo" but agree with my point that no one is going to see that and think they need to put on weight to be more like her, then fine.

but if the criticism is that she shouldn't be "glamorized" because then others will try to put on weight, then it's silly to complain about her being glamorized because what's the problem if no one is going to see it and think they need to put on weight???

[brooklynite]

10. No issue with her size...

...but the tattoos are a little over the top.

[yonder]

12. ditto

[USALiberal]

14. I 100% agree! Nt

[GoCubsGo]

35. Yes, except for the Miss Piggy tattoo.

It seems like a nice middle finger to the critics of her appearance, IMHO.

[Codeine]

39. I'm a big fan of tattooed women,

though not as much a fan of those particular tattoo styles. The whole “retro/Americana” ink craze doesn’t work for me.

[EddieA]

42. Do you have an issue with smaller tattoos?

[brooklynite]

43. No...

...as long as you'll be comfortable with them at age 60

[NurseJackie]

13. Good for her! Love her hair and makeup...

... the tattoos? well? enhh. Not for me, but I'm from a different time. --- But overall, it makes me happy to see the message what we women of a certain size can be stylish and fashionable... that we can be groomed and coiffed. A big body doesn't have to mean a lifetime of limp, flat, lifeless, stringy hair... fear of jewelry and accessories... or being stuck in mumus, flip-flops, and souvenir silk-screened t-shirts.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. I like her tattoos. Hope they age well.

[IluvPitties]

21. Not healthy. Sorry.

[unblock]

28. there's nothing "healthy" about many things in fashion.

nothing healthy about makeup. some of it is safer and less dangerous than others, but nothing about makeup is "healthy" (some makeup is mixed with things that can be healthy, such as moisturizers, but the "paint" aspect of makeup is in no way a plus for health.)

hair dye, are you kidding me??

and high heels are just plain cruel.



no one talks about health when a normal-weight or thin model appears with unhealthy makeup, dyed hair, and high heels.

but show someone overweight and suddenly health is the only concern anyone seems to have about a model on a fashion mag cover....

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. Who knew we had so many health experts here?

[unblock]

27. and i'm sure they're equally vocal whenever they see a pic of an overweight male....

[GoCubsGo]

30. I know, right?

Something tells me that it's just an underhanded way of saying, "I don't like seeing a fat woman on the cover of a magazine." They're too afraid to come right out and say it, so they attack her through health issues, instead. Never mind that it's a goddamn fashion magazine, and not "Shape" or "Women's Health" or "Fitness" or that sort of rag. It's "Cosmo", FFS. All they care about is clothes, make-up, and how to get laid. SMGDH.

[oberliner]

25. Everything about this is great

[Codeine]

37. I think she's pretty.

I’ve seen a lot of photos of her and she’s quite fetching, plus-sized or not.

[nolabear]

40. Yeah, large women have no business being represented in the world.

Only size 6-10 should be allowed to be seen in places that represent women. Big women don’t need clothes or hairstyles or makeup. They should be shamed onto the pages of nothing but medical publications because the only thing that matters when you’re big is trying to get small. Geez, it’s as though those publishers think they might deserve to be included in life or something.

[Demovictory9]

44. are her tattoos really that vivid?