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GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:07 PM Aug 2012

UPDATE to the 2012 Political Compass check-in. Take the candidate quiz and add those results too!

Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2012, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.isidewith.com/ FYI I took this one twice, once strictly Yes or No, and then again with the "choose another stance" options and I got some different answers at the end, so do look at all the answer possibilities before selecting one.




http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

I was way down in the lower left-hand corner a few years ago. I will retake the test and let you know where I stand now.

Editing for the results: Economic Left/Right: -9.75, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

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UPDATE to the 2012 Political Compass check-in. Take the candidate quiz and add those results too! (Original Post) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 OP
Lower left hand corner. No surprise. Faygo Kid Aug 2012 #1
Me too, and I am definitely getting lower as the years pass. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #3
Lower left corner for me, it's always been like that Warpy Aug 2012 #201
:^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #217
Economic Left/Right: -10.00; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85 nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #2
You are way down there. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #4
Proudly. :D nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #12
*high five!* GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #21
-8.38 & -7.64 rurallib Aug 2012 #6
Heheh. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #216
Economic Left/Right: -9.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69. Vincardog Aug 2012 #5
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #23
Economic Left/Right-(-6.75); Social Libertarian/Authoritarian-(-4.21) Va Lefty Aug 2012 #7
Thanks for posting your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #24
I don't even understand what this means. And who are all those people. Rocky Anderson? nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #8
They are all candidates for 2012. What it means is a system of plotting where you (and they) land GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #9
There is no way semi-realistic answers to that quiz would put Obama where they put him Orangepeel Aug 2012 #25
That's what lead me to conclude that I must not understand it, because it's wrong. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #28
I find it more accurate LWolf Aug 2012 #159
I think he should have come out more in the middle. As I was saying before, my conservative GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #31
this quiz might actually be valid for all I know; it's the chart with politicians I take issue with Orangepeel Aug 2012 #32
At the very least it was intriguing to see what (some) people from England think about our politics. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #33
You know, you could have looked it up. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #26
Thank you. O wise one. I didn't need to. I concluded I must not understand, because it's WRONG. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #29
If you didn't know who Rocky Anderson is, you could look it up. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #114
So what was your score? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #136
They updated the questions. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #10
Yeah, they do change up the questions from time to time it seems. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #11
I was directly below you...econ -7.75 soc -4.41 Rowdyboy Aug 2012 #19
I enjoy these little quizzes, even if they really don't mean anything. I will be posting more as GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #35
thats almost exactly where I ended up Tribetime Aug 2012 #143
Teen son took it. Is -7.5, -5.23. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #13
Conservative hubby took it, also landed in the green square. I find the conservatives in my family GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #16
Fellow Green took it: 8.5, -5.28 GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #38
I think it's because LWolf Aug 2012 #160
Probably, esp since we have a couple of specific wedge issues acting as GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #162
12 yo son took it: Economic Left/Right: -5.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05 GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #119
Economic Left/Right: -9.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90 Puregonzo1188 Aug 2012 #14
I was surprised the Green and Socialist candidates weren't further down and leftward. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #17
O.K., I'm not as authoritarian as I thought I was. ithinkmyliverhurts Aug 2012 #15
LOL It is very easy to make it come out closer to where you want. I think that's why they insist GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #40
Economic: -10.00, Social: -6.33 Odin2005 Aug 2012 #18
A perfect 10, and just in time for the Olympics! (Not that they use those anymore, I guess.) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #41
Economic Left/Right: -6.50//Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38 CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #20
Thanks for joining in, Peggy! How are you feeling? *hugs* GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #42
Hey, my pleasure! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #43
I hope you are back to full-steam-ahead soon! :^D GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #44
Economic Left/Right: -9.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41 TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #22
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #55
Economic Left/Right: -9.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03. nc4bo Aug 2012 #27
They do change out the questions, so that might have some effect. At the very least, I guess we GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #45
Economic Left/Right: -8.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62 supernova Aug 2012 #30
Ah, I too would like the Scandinavian countries! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #50
economic 0.0 social libertarian -4.05 rdking647 Aug 2012 #34
That's interesting how it didn't match up with what you thought. It just goes to show that GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #53
Hmm. Economic Left/Right: -8.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31 GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #188
Economic -7.25; Social -6.87 LeftishBrit Aug 2012 #36
I agree. You should email them and tell them your idea about adding GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #68
Economic Left/Right: -8.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.72 Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #37
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #70
I'm at -7.5 and -6.46 Chisox08 Aug 2012 #39
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #71
Just below Ghandi center rising Aug 2012 #46
Not a bad person to be by. :^D GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #75
Economic left/right .25 and on Social Libertarian/Authoritarian I am -1.28. crimson77 Aug 2012 #47
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #87
-6.88 on the economic left and -7.69 on the social. TexasTowelie Aug 2012 #48
But 'overall' President Obama is rated as a hard-core Liberal - see chart below Tx4obama Aug 2012 #49
Having trouble finding it. Is it possible for an everyday person to score themselves there? GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #59
Not sure what problem it is that you're having. Tx4obama Aug 2012 #60
No, sorry I was unclear. I found the Obama stuff just fine. Just couldn't find GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #67
Of course, this is a different tool, LWolf Aug 2012 #161
Economic -6.75 Social -5.59 ibegurpard Aug 2012 #51
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #74
I'm a -7.1,-6.1 MichaelSoE Aug 2012 #52
Thanks for taking the quiz. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #76
-5.12, -4.00 cleanhippie Aug 2012 #54
I resent the first question immensely. Zorra Aug 2012 #56
I found several of the questions to be oddly worded. Depending on how you GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #57
I'm pretty sure that's kinda the point of the survey... ;) (nt) eqfan592 Aug 2012 #62
LOL Well, yes, but what I meant is that my very liberal Green friend took the quiz, with GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #66
For sure. The fact that the very first question places the phrase "economic globalisation" Zorra Aug 2012 #64
-5.62 & -5.03 ieoeja Aug 2012 #58
Thanks for adding your numbers! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #77
-8.12, -7.44 Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #61
Thanks for joining the thread. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #78
It's kinda sad that so many of us are on the exact opposite end of the spectrum from the President.. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #63
It sure does! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #81
That's if you buy that he's in that grouping ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #86
They justify his grouping here: GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #88
I think there are a lot of flaws in that.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #89
It's a guessing game, for sure. Also, you can't be certain that a presidency necessarily GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #90
-7.62; -6.15 AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #65
Love your sigpic! :^) I had a kitteh who ate popcorn. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #94
hey AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #107
-9.38, -9.49 - I'm a bit of a political skeptic. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #69
I am as well....pretty interesting test, tho! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #103
Dam, you beat me! :D tama Aug 2012 #155
-9.25 ~ -8.56....Gone beyond left. Zorra Aug 2012 #72
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #96
Economic Left/Right: -6.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79 bluedigger Aug 2012 #73
Really? That's very interesting, considering the changing of the questions. :^) I myself GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #111
Economic Left/Right: -10.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67 hunter Aug 2012 #79
you and me too! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #102
-3.25, -4.10 Prism Aug 2012 #80
I figure anyone in the green box is a flaming lib, at least as far as GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #112
... me b zola Aug 2012 #82
Thanks for adding your numbers! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #113
Your political compass Hatchling Aug 2012 #83
I do too, despite the changing of the of questions. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #115
Economic Left/Right: -6.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10 Alduin Aug 2012 #84
A few of the questions were worded weirdly to me, and had me taking a stab in the dark for GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #116
Yeah. Alduin Aug 2012 #117
Economic Left/Right: -6.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38 bigwillq Aug 2012 #85
Wow, I though I was a serious lefty HeiressofBickworth Aug 2012 #91
That's ok. It's not about comparing ourselves to each other :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #92
Not comparing, really HeiressofBickworth Aug 2012 #97
I am too. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #98
Economic Left/Right: -9.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77 alittlelark Aug 2012 #93
I am too. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #118
no change since the last time I took this SteveG Aug 2012 #95
Down to the exact numbers, or more or less same spot on the grid? GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #121
-7's on both last time as well. (nt) SteveG Aug 2012 #183
ec=-9.88 & soc=-7.59 Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #99
Thanks for joining the fun! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #120
This is fun.... WCGreen Aug 2012 #100
Yeah, I love doing these things. I really enjoyed having my kids participate too. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #125
I remember this! Economic -7.88 Social -9.03 - one again, near Gandhi! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #101
A good person to be by. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #126
very peaceful and quiet. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #127
left/right -7.50 libertarian/authoritarian -6.72 TDale313 Aug 2012 #104
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) Keep an eye out, there are other kinds of quizzes that may get GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #129
My results DissidentVoice Aug 2012 #105
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #131
Economic Left/Right: -3.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.95 Kaleva Aug 2012 #106
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #132
Hopefully you'll put these answers into some kind of graph. Kaleva Aug 2012 #134
I doubt can pull that together. Are you good at that sort of thing? GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #137
No but somebody here might be. Kaleva Aug 2012 #138
Thanks! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #139
econ -8.62 social -7.23 justabob Aug 2012 #108
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #140
My results beveeheart Aug 2012 #109
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #146
Well here I am. Actually moved a little to the upper right since I last took this test a ways back. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #110
Do you think the last time you took the test was before the most recent GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #147
I am voting straight Greens myself. the nite has 1K eyez Aug 2012 #122
Green Party or candidates in the green quadrant? (Hard to vote a straight Green ticket in most GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #123
Left-Libertarian Renew Deal Aug 2012 #124
Thanks for adding your numbers! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #148
My score: Economic Left/Right: -8.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97 white_wolf Aug 2012 #128
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #149
oooohkay.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #130
Your poor battleship! LOL GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #150
-6.88, -6.36 Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #133
Economic Left/Right: -5.88 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10 n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #135
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #157
LOL is Obama really that far to the right on this test? I sorta don't believe that. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #141
I believe it's because the test is euro-centric Kaleva Aug 2012 #152
Euro-centric with a libertarian bias. baldguy Aug 2012 #168
It looks like I'm the only person here who answered that's in the top half. Kaleva Aug 2012 #170
economic left -7.62....libertarian -3.28 nt Tribetime Aug 2012 #142
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #163
I'm barely hanging on the edge of the table. -9.38, -6.56 Systematic Chaos Aug 2012 #144
Yeah, you're just clinging there, aren't ya? :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #164
Where I usually am. Blue_In_AK Aug 2012 #145
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #166
I'm a -7.88 and a -7.33 immoderate Aug 2012 #151
:^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #169
Social libertarian aka anarchist tama Aug 2012 #153
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #172
Economic Left/Right: -9.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92 limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #154
Thanks for joining in. I think these things are fun. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #173
-7.12 (left) -2.92(libertarian) northoftheborder Aug 2012 #156
My theory is that he is probably more liberal than his presidency has been. There have been times GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #174
Far lower left, every time, every year. LWolf Aug 2012 #158
Yeah, even the Socialist and Green aren't down where we are. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #175
I think I've drifted a bit since last time..... Wounded Bear Aug 2012 #165
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) I keep drifting leftward and downward, probably for GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #178
Thanks for this.....haven't changed much since the last time I took it.... a kennedy Aug 2012 #167
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #179
I'm almost Smack dab in the middle of everything... -0.62 Left +0.72 Auth (see pic) OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #171
Thanks for adding your numbers! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #180
Economic Left/Right: -8.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77 SouthernLiberal Aug 2012 #176
Yeah, there were several questions I had problems with as well. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #185
Mine's about the same as a few years ago Chemisse Aug 2012 #177
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #187
Economic Left: -6.50 Social, Libertarian: -5.28 sakabatou Aug 2012 #181
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #189
Economic Left/Right: -7.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90 n/t phylny Aug 2012 #182
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #190
Economic Left/Right: -7.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41 Proles Aug 2012 #184
I think the numbers would be different if politicians took the quizzes for themselves. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #192
I don't like how some of the questions are set up. renie408 Aug 2012 #186
Yes, my younger son wasn't sure about some. He's 12 and was concerned that how you answer GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #194
Economic Left/Right: -5.88; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00 n/t R. P. McMurphy Aug 2012 #191
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #199
My results... VenusRising Aug 2012 #193
Thank you for sharing your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #202
Strongly libertarian left. Where I have always been. hifiguy Aug 2012 #195
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #203
As I figured, I am left of Obama Xyzse Aug 2012 #196
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #205
Economic Left/Right: -5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.9 Adsos Letter Aug 2012 #197
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #207
Economic Left/Right: -8.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.28 nt TBF Aug 2012 #198
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #210
I make Gandhi look like a hardcore rightie. marmar Aug 2012 #200
Thanks for checking in. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #211
Standing NS2012 Aug 2012 #204
Thanks for posting. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #212
Economic: -8.00 Social: -8.10 Ya Basta Aug 2012 #206
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #213
Hmm. MyshkinCommaPrince Aug 2012 #208
I go further and further southwest each time I take it. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #214
Economic Left/Right: -8.25; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38 VOX Aug 2012 #209
Yeah, you're running out of room! :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #215
Economic Left/Right: -6.38 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95 ellisonz Aug 2012 #218
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #219
kick for anyone who missed it the first time. :^) GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #220
Like most of us here... WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2012 #221
Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #222
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #223
That's the candidate selector quiz chart. The quadrant chart is part of the GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #224
Which Mitt Romney's views are represented here? tarheelsunc Sep 2012 #225
Heaven only knows! LOL GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #226
Libertarian lefty James48 Sep 2012 #227
Yes, indeed! GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #228
Economic Left/Right: -8.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77 Spock_is_Skeptical Oct 2012 #229
Oh, no. I don't think you need to commit seppuku. LOL GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #230

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
201. Lower left corner for me, it's always been like that
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:12 PM
Aug 2012

and it looks like I am not mellowing with age.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
9. They are all candidates for 2012. What it means is a system of plotting where you (and they) land
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:41 PM
Aug 2012

on the grid based on the questions in the quiz. Our American concept of Left vs Right runs from the lower lefthand corner diagonally up to the upper righthand corner.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
25. There is no way semi-realistic answers to that quiz would put Obama where they put him
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:48 AM
Aug 2012

I looked for a page that detailed how they answered the questions for each candidate, but I couldn't find one. The only explanation is a listing of some of the worst things Obama has done and an offensive suggestion that people only voted for him in 2008 because he's black.

The quiz puts test takers in a quadrant based, it seems, on answers to a whole range of questions. The libertarians who made the chart put Obama in a quadrant, based, it seems, on the extension of the bush tax cuts, drone strikes, and the appointment of industry people to the EPA and FDA.

An argument can certainly be made that Obama has behaved in ways that are right leaning and authoritarian. But it is not realistic to suggest that this quiz would put him in that quadrant of the chart.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
31. I think he should have come out more in the middle. As I was saying before, my conservative
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:16 AM
Aug 2012

friends and relatives seem to land in the green quadrant or near to it, so it seems odd that Obama doesn't make it at least to the cross-hairs in the middle. (It would be cool if the President would take the quiz, just to see where he lands in comparison, but I am sure he is a bit busy just now.)

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
32. this quiz might actually be valid for all I know; it's the chart with politicians I take issue with
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:00 PM
Aug 2012

well, that and the rest of the libertarian bullshit on that site.

I thought the quiz was interesting and I don't have issues with where it put me. There is just no way that the answers to those questions would result in Obama falling where he does. Hell, Romney might not even be that authoritarian, although I guess that would depend on who he was talking to at the time.

To give any kind of credibility to those placements, I would need to see how the answers attributed to each politician resulted in that score. Like I said, I looked for it on the site. When I got to the "argument" that Obama voters put more emphasis on his pigment than his policies, I said fuck this shit and gave up.

So I came to the conclusion that maybe the quiz is valid or the placement is valid, or neither. They aren't both valid.

But again, the quiz was interesting.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. Thank you. O wise one. I didn't need to. I concluded I must not understand, because it's WRONG.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:18 AM
Aug 2012

The conclusions and plats shown in the OP are clearly wrong, so I know I must not understand it.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
35. I enjoy these little quizzes, even if they really don't mean anything. I will be posting more as
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:37 PM
Aug 2012

I find them. Teen son and I are on a political quiz kick.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
16. Conservative hubby took it, also landed in the green square. I find the conservatives in my family
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:05 PM
Aug 2012

are usually annoyed that they don't rank more "right," and complain that the test is skewed.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
160. I think it's because
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:34 PM
Aug 2012

people in the U.S. have a particularly skewed understanding of right and left.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
162. Probably, esp since we have a couple of specific wedge issues acting as
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:10 AM
Aug 2012

a litmus test for political orientation.

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
14. Economic Left/Right: -9.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:55 PM
Aug 2012

Rocky Anderson and Gary Johnson's placements strike me as a bit odd. Johnson who is pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, and pro-drug legalization seems to me like he should be down further though--this his economic placement seems perfect.

I would have expected Anderson to be closer to Stein, but maybe I am missing something.

ithinkmyliverhurts

(1,928 posts)
15. O.K., I'm not as authoritarian as I thought I was.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:02 PM
Aug 2012

God damnnit, yes, I am!! I will make that test compute properly.

Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
40. LOL It is very easy to make it come out closer to where you want. I think that's why they insist
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:32 PM
Aug 2012

people take it before reading up on what the whole site is about.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,534 posts)
43. Hey, my pleasure!
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:46 PM
Aug 2012

I'm feeling OK, not a lot of energy yet, and a little low-level nausea is all. I'm going to have some lovely scars!

Thanks for asking, my dear GreenPartyVoter!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
27. Economic Left/Right: -9.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:04 AM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:32 AM - Edit history (1)

I have no idea how I ended up this far to the left. I remember taking this test before and I don't remember it being this severe.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
45. They do change out the questions, so that might have some effect. At the very least, I guess we
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:10 PM
Aug 2012

really can't compare old and new numbers for that reason.

supernova

(39,345 posts)
30. Economic Left/Right: -8.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:34 AM
Aug 2012

Lower and to the left of Gandhi.

I'd probably be happiest in one of the Scandinavian countries, as far as agreeing with society and gov't policy.

edit: I'm in roughly the same place as I was the first time we did it several years ago. And I agree the placement of Obama in the upper right quadrant is odd. I'd put him more dead center, or lower red and center. He's more heavy on authoritarian aspects than we elected him to be. That could be his governing style or the times we live in, alas.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
53. That's interesting how it didn't match up with what you thought. It just goes to show that
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:24 AM
Aug 2012

these quizzes can be fun, but are probably not something you should swear by.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
188. Hmm. Economic Left/Right: -8.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:39 PM
Aug 2012

Don't quite know what to make of that.

LeftishBrit

(41,203 posts)
36. Economic -7.25; Social -6.87
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:38 PM
Aug 2012

Interesting test, but does not really include much about the role of public services, which is one of the most crucial issues these days.

Also, the scores of politicians will always be a guess, as they have presumably not taken the test. And, though it's a defensible view to say that both Obama and Romney are right of centre, they certainly differ far more from each other than the graph suggests, IMO.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
68. I agree. You should email them and tell them your idea about adding
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
Aug 2012

more questions regarding public services.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
60. Not sure what problem it is that you're having.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

Just click on the link: http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

then let the page load fully and look towards the bottom of the page,
you might have to scroll up a couple inches once your down at the bottom.

And I believe that you can not score yourself there, it is a website that scores all of the 'political leaders'.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
67. No, sorry I was unclear. I found the Obama stuff just fine. Just couldn't find
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:31 PM
Aug 2012

anything for the average Joe or Joanne.

I appreciate the link. It's good to have a site that compiles documentation on the issues like that.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
161. Of course, this is a different tool,
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
Aug 2012

using different measures and limited definitions, and doesn't correlate to the political compass.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
56. I resent the first question immensely.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:17 AM
Aug 2012
"If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations."

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."


It is virtually impossible for economic globalization to ever serve humanity unless humanity evolves significantly. Economic globalization hinders human evolution by creating a global, unchallengeable plutarchy comprised of of evolutionarily regressive human beings who benefit from/by deliberately hindering human evolution.

Catch 22.

Natural selection in humans, which historically has occurred because of adaptation to natural physical circumstances, has been effectively aborted by global economic imperialism. Human beings, deliberately propagandized into submission, and believing that their survival is dependent on a malevolent, aggressive status quo, have lost all possibility of genuine mass self-determination, and lack the collective will to attain the critical mass necessary to rebel against, and usurp, the regressive, ruthless plutarchs who control their very existence to a very significant degree. Hence, significant, effective, progressive adaptation has become impossible.

We are, in general, rapidly devolving due to economic globalism.

Because of global economic imperialism, we have essentially become a world comprised primarily of slaves who lack the collective will to overthrow our masters and the force of their economic, and media controlled, subjection of us.

Only "Mother Nature" or an "act of God" can change this course now; in any event, simply because of its essential nature, economic globalization can never primarily serve human interests.

Marcos

The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. The great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dictates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . .


Marcos is correct. However, recent events have made it very clear that the dwarfs lack the courage and will to ever rebel in numbers significant enough to regain working democracy and collective and individual liberty.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
57. I found several of the questions to be oddly worded. Depending on how you
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:35 PM
Aug 2012

looked at the situations they posited, you could come out with completely different answers.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
66. LOL Well, yes, but what I meant is that my very liberal Green friend took the quiz, with
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:29 PM
Aug 2012

me reading it to her over the phone. So I got to hear her reasoning on most of the questions, and a few of them she startled me by answering the opposite of what I expected. So when she laid her thought process out I was able to see how easy it was to either a) misunderstand the question, or b) add on situational possibilities which then changed the meaning of the questions.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
64. For sure. The fact that the very first question places the phrase "economic globalisation"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:05 PM
Aug 2012

right next to the phrase "is inevitable" makes me want to scream.

It very much appears to me to be a form of subliminal associative propaganda designed to make "globalization is inevitable" into a talking point/soundbyte of collective conventional wisdom.

"Progress is inevitable" ~ "Globalization is inevitable"

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
63. It's kinda sad that so many of us are on the exact opposite end of the spectrum from the President..
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

...we support. Seems like the country just keeps getting dragged further and further to the upper right there.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
88. They justify his grouping here:
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:46 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

Someone upthread in post 49 (I think) has a different graph that places him differently.

Edited because the first post number was wrong.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
89. I think there are a lot of flaws in that....
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:00 PM
Aug 2012

....the questions are, in some instances, too abstract to project what a politician really feels on a given matter. To me, unless you hand them a copy of it and tell them to fill it out, you don't have bupkis.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
90. It's a guessing game, for sure. Also, you can't be certain that a presidency necessarily
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:03 PM
Aug 2012

reflects personal beliefs.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
69. -9.38, -9.49 - I'm a bit of a political skeptic.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:58 PM
Aug 2012

I have little patience for modern Industrial Politics. Alexander and Stein both seem suspiciously right-wing to me. Of course I live in the capital of Free North Canuckistan, recently renamed Bakuningrad...

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
155. Dam, you beat me! :D
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:20 PM
Aug 2012

I got only Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.08, but my embarrassed and pitiful excuse is that some of the questions were practically impossible for Citizens of Bakunistan to answer - or was it Kropotkinistan today, hard to keep up as Big Brother keeps changing the name of our Slapstickstan on daily basis...

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
73. Economic Left/Right: -6.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:52 PM
Aug 2012

Third or fourth time I've done one of these, and despite the questions changing, I come out remarkably similarly every time.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
111. Really? That's very interesting, considering the changing of the questions. :^) I myself
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:48 AM
Aug 2012

have been heading more and more toward that lower lefthand corner. If it's the question switch-out or that I'm getting more liberal as I get older, I'm not sure!

hunter

(38,304 posts)
79. Economic Left/Right: -10.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:28 PM
Aug 2012

Clearly I'm a radical leftist libertarian.



 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
80. -3.25, -4.10
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:38 PM
Aug 2012

What's funny is I usually feel like a flaming liberal on DU, but I'm clearly somewhat to the right of the majority of respondents (though still firmly on the Left). How odd, lol.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
112. I figure anyone in the green box is a flaming lib, at least as far as
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:57 AM
Aug 2012

FAUX Snooze would describe us.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
83. Your political compass
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

I get further to the left each year.

 

Alduin

(501 posts)
84. Economic Left/Right: -6.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:45 PM
Aug 2012

I didn't understand some of the terms in the economic section.

I'm the opposite of Obama. I noticed he's not far from Romney in his ideals, according to the Political Compass. Makes me wonder...

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
116. A few of the questions were worded weirdly to me, and had me taking a stab in the dark for
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:38 PM
Aug 2012

an answer. Sounds like maybe you did that too?

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
93. Economic Left/Right: -9.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:31 PM
Aug 2012

I'm further left and south than when I last took one of these tests.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
125. Yeah, I love doing these things. I really enjoyed having my kids participate too. :^)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:14 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
129. Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) Keep an eye out, there are other kinds of quizzes that may get
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:41 PM
Aug 2012

posted soon, such as the "Which candidate is right for you." I always enjoy those too.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
106. Economic Left/Right: -3.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.95
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:47 AM
Aug 2012

The political figures I'm closet to are Mahmoud Abbas who is the Chairman of the PLO and Alexis Tsipras who is a Greek left wing politician.

I'm as left as those two men are and I split the difference between the two on the authoritarian/libertarian scale.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
108. econ -8.62 social -7.23
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:04 AM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.23

About the same as the last time I took the quiz.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
110. Well here I am. Actually moved a little to the upper right since I last took this test a ways back.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:36 AM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
123. Green Party or candidates in the green quadrant? (Hard to vote a straight Green ticket in most
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:20 PM
Aug 2012

places. I myself actually vote for more Dems simply because most times they are the most left-leaning candidates offered.)

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
124. Left-Libertarian
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:31 PM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03

About what I expected

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
141. LOL is Obama really that far to the right on this test? I sorta don't believe that.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:29 AM
Aug 2012

But here are my results:
Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
168. Euro-centric with a libertarian bias.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

That's why most "normal" people end up in the bottom half, while most politicians - who "normal" people select - are in the top half.

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
144. I'm barely hanging on the edge of the table. -9.38, -6.56
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:56 AM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.56

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
153. Social libertarian aka anarchist
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:09 PM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.08

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
174. My theory is that he is probably more liberal than his presidency has been. There have been times
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
Aug 2012

when the Repubs are affecting how things go by blocking or submitting legislation and so forth.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
158. Far lower left, every time, every year.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:23 PM
Aug 2012

Where no members of either major party reside, outside of a few "fringe" Democrats who, while nominally in that lower left quadrant, hover close to the center and still get no respect from their party or a majority of party voters; where most DUers claim to be, even as they gear up to battle for various candidates in the upper right quadrant who do not represent their position.



Edited to add: I notice that our President has moved further to the north east than he was placed in '08.

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
165. I think I've drifted a bit since last time.....
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:06 AM
Aug 2012

Now:

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18


I've been not so far left and a bit less authoritarian in the past.

Probably a reaction to the far right/libertarian crap flying around posing as 'good' policy these days.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
178. Thanks for adding your numbers. :^) I keep drifting leftward and downward, probably for
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:42 PM
Aug 2012

the same reasons you stated.

a kennedy

(29,618 posts)
167. Thanks for this.....haven't changed much since the last time I took it....
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:33 AM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

SouthernLiberal

(407 posts)
176. Economic Left/Right: -8.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:08 PM
Aug 2012

Although I felt that several of the questions really did not fit into the agree/disagree structure. But that's just me.

Chemisse

(30,804 posts)
177. Mine's about the same as a few years ago
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:22 PM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

Proles

(466 posts)
184. Economic Left/Right: -7.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:41 PM
Aug 2012

But I disagree with were they put Obama, and possibly other politicians on the spectrum.

I mean, he's not *that* far right. Center-right, sure, but I think the measurements are off.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
186. I don't like how some of the questions are set up.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:49 PM
Aug 2012

The one that sticks in my head is the one about it being a waste of time to try to rehabilitate some criminals. Logically, it IS a waste of time to try to rehabilitate SOME criminals. There are always going to be some people whose issues are too complicated or their behaviors too ingrained to be rehabilitated. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't TRY. Cause you don't know til you try. Even if you figure out after you tried that it didn't have a chance of working.


Economic Left/Right: -6.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
194. Yes, my younger son wasn't sure about some. He's 12 and was concerned that how you answer
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:30 PM
Aug 2012

varies on what scenario you envision at the time, but that if you change the variables you could just as easily support a different answer, like you were saying above.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
195. Strongly libertarian left. Where I have always been.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:33 PM
Aug 2012

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

 

Ya Basta

(391 posts)
206. Economic: -8.00 Social: -8.10
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:49 PM
Aug 2012
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10



MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
208. Hmm.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:49 PM
Aug 2012

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.64

I seem to have become more extreme since the last time I took it.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
209. Economic Left/Right: -8.25; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:05 PM
Aug 2012

Don't have much margin left on the graph!

Response to GreenPartyVoter (Original post)

Spock_is_Skeptical

(1,491 posts)
229. Economic Left/Right: -8.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:46 AM
Oct 2012

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Used to be moreso to the bottom left few years ago I was practically in the corner...

Oh no, I have become more to the right! Augh!

/seppuku

Actually I think it might be that before, I might have said 'strongly disagree' to the compulsory school attendance,
but frankly I had to change that to 'strongly agree'.... Sorry, I don't care how good your mommy is at "homeschooling" you, and go ahead, "homeschool" all you want for all I care... I think attending (an actual school) just prepares ya for society, and dealing with people. And yes, for better or worse.

And yeah, just too many wackaloons do the homeschooling thing, and public schools are bad enough, but please. Let's at least pretend we really care as a society about education. Anywayyyyy.~ ♫♫♪

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