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still_one

(92,366 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 08:57 PM Sep 2018

CNN has a group of republican women justifying that if kavanaugh did do what was alledged, it is

fine.

What do you say to someone with that kind of mentality.

One was justifying it by saying, "Normal American boys do do things like this"



With all these republican women, they were blaming it on the victim

There is something really f**ked about some women in this country. What it tells me is that these women would have no problem if this was done to their daughters.

As I said these were republican women, but it is unbelievable to me that any woman would have that mindset







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CNN has a group of republican women justifying that if kavanaugh did do what was alledged, it is (Original Post) still_one Sep 2018 OP
Surely they were countered? By whom and how many? hlthe2b Sep 2018 #1
Probably about 12. I caught it in the middle. They weren't being challeneged because it wasn't still_one Sep 2018 #9
No, they ranted and raved with their ignorance dlk Sep 2018 #13
Since 1970's 45% of women vote paternalistic, mostly due to fundamental / orthodox religions. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #48
Yep. These women are probably 100% Christians. They're told every Sunday stopbush Sep 2018 #58
If Kavanaugh was a black male who did this... IluvPitties Sep 2018 #2
Also, if this is what normal American boys do IluvPitties Sep 2018 #4
They werre all white women, and I think they were from Florida, so I think you know the answer to still_one Sep 2018 #10
A seventeen year old black man (yes, "man") raping white women?! ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #11
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Sep 2018 #27
They'd think but not say qazplm135 Sep 2018 #51
There you go. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #52
And people ask how its possible that the rate of rape and sexual assault is so high in our nation... Pachamama Sep 2018 #3
Many of these women saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #5
Why would CNN have women like this on ... ? Jarqui Sep 2018 #6
It was a brief meeting with them, then they returned to there regular panel to discuss it. I think still_one Sep 2018 #14
fuck them. they are as sleazy as the one they defend JI7 Sep 2018 #7
Are they saying .... CatMor Sep 2018 #8
One said what teenage boy gabeana Sep 2018 #12
When my two sons were teenagers..... CatMor Sep 2018 #17
Raising Hand ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #47
That is exactly what they were saying, but they didn't ask if any of them had children. still_one Sep 2018 #16
Women do different things to survive in the patriarchy. Some fight it. Many white women throw in WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #15
I won't give any leeway to anyone, for any reason to justify sexual assult, especially a women who still_one Sep 2018 #21
No one is asking you to. It can be helpful to understand why it happens. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #25
Is there a link to this? NT enough Sep 2018 #18
This was on the CNN TV feed. I don't know if there is a feed, though I would assume youtube might still_one Sep 2018 #26
Do these women have daughters? Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #19
That is the question they should have asked the group, though I suspect with this group of still_one Sep 2018 #23
Maybe? Republican so God's will, mysterious ways,or God has chosen the father of your child for you. lunasun Sep 2018 #32
THIS IS GASLIGHTING Separation Sep 2018 #20
I do not believe most women in America subscribe to what these republican women were saying. still_one Sep 2018 #24
You misunderstand what gaslighting is then Separation Sep 2018 #30
Yes I do separation. I also think the movie gaslight light explains perfectly still_one Sep 2018 #33
So what was it that I said that was wrong then? Separation Sep 2018 #42
I think what you said was pretty accurate. It is a form of manipulation. That of course is open to still_one Sep 2018 #43
Yep Separation Sep 2018 #44
They probably liked being grabbed ... GeorgeGist Sep 2018 #22
Republican woman -"Normal American boys do do things like this" lunasun Sep 2018 #28
They do not care. They will never have an abortion and want that right taken away from others. RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #29
CNN Trying Hard To Catch Fox News Viewers... Grassy Knoll Sep 2018 #31
It's assault ellie Sep 2018 #34
they have justified that behavior Demonaut Sep 2018 #35
Do they let their sons act this way? blueinredohio Sep 2018 #36
Yes. I broke up with a man decades ago who Ilsa Sep 2018 #39
Yes. Their sons are little princes. haele Sep 2018 #59
"Normal" American boys means white American boys JenniferJuniper Sep 2018 #37
They are REPUBLICANS. They are fine with patriarchy, Ilsa Sep 2018 #38
This is not what normal American boys do. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #40
I clicked away within seconds Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #41
Meet the mothers Olafjoy Sep 2018 #45
Why would cnn even have a panel like that Fullduplexxx Sep 2018 #46
if these women were raped would they still be OK with it? titaniumsalute Sep 2018 #49
Submissive wives HAB911 Sep 2018 #50
I don't think they believe it's ok... Trueblue Texan Sep 2018 #53
reminds me of this.... spanone Sep 2018 #54
Here is a link Meowmee Sep 2018 #55
Thanks for posting the link Meow. It was so outrageous and unbelievalbe. While they were still_one Sep 2018 #56
You're welcome😊 Meowmee Sep 2018 #61
CNN always gets these stupid republican groups on smooth64 Sep 2018 #57
THere are a lot of women who believe that's just how boys are. I was in a therapy group once and . Amaryllis Sep 2018 #60
Crazy But Not Surprising erpowers Sep 2018 #62

still_one

(92,366 posts)
9. Probably about 12. I caught it in the middle. They weren't being challeneged because it wasn't
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:04 PM
Sep 2018

that kind of forum. They were just asked their opinion on this.

It was disgusting





stopbush

(24,396 posts)
58. Yep. These women are probably 100% Christians. They're told every Sunday
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 10:53 AM
Sep 2018

that wives must be submissive to their husbands. Their world view is based on make believe that advances male dominance.

It’s not so much about them speaking as Rs as it’s about them speaking as Christians.

still_one

(92,366 posts)
10. They werre all white women, and I think they were from Florida, so I think you know the answer to
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:04 PM
Sep 2018

this

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
11. A seventeen year old black man (yes, "man") raping white women?!
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:05 PM
Sep 2018

Find a rope and a tree quick!

That's exactly what they would say.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
3. And people ask how its possible that the rate of rape and sexual assault is so high in our nation...
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 08:59 PM
Sep 2018

This is so sick when I read or hear about anybody, man or woman, state things like "boys will be boys" or "how can we blame hormonal teenage boys"....

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
5. Many of these women
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:00 PM
Sep 2018

are "recruited" for the hack job. Most normal people do not crave such media attention. imo

still_one

(92,366 posts)
14. It was a brief meeting with them, then they returned to there regular panel to discuss it. I think
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:08 PM
Sep 2018

it was eye opening.

I hope their views don't represent the majority of women, even republicanj women, and I don't think they do



CatMor

(6,212 posts)
17. When my two sons were teenagers.....
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:10 PM
Sep 2018

they never did that to the best of my knowledge. No one ever accused them.

ProfessorGAC

(65,138 posts)
47. Raising Hand
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:09 AM
Sep 2018

If she's looking for a teenage boy who DIDN'T do anything like that, i'm raising my hand right now.

She is an idiot. TENS OF MILLIONS of teenage boys never did any such thing.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,393 posts)
15. Women do different things to survive in the patriarchy. Some fight it. Many white women throw in
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:09 PM
Sep 2018

with the Republicans to grab a little power and keep other women down.

still_one

(92,366 posts)
21. I won't give any leeway to anyone, for any reason to justify sexual assult, especially a women who
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:13 PM
Sep 2018

justifies it

still_one

(92,366 posts)
26. This was on the CNN TV feed. I don't know if there is a feed, though I would assume youtube might
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:18 PM
Sep 2018

pick it up because it was so outrageous


Freethinker65

(10,034 posts)
19. Do these women have daughters?
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:10 PM
Sep 2018

Would these women want their chaste daughters to be forced to carry to term a child produced by their rape by a priveleged teenage boy that considers their teenage daughter to be no more than a one time and out nice piece af ass?

still_one

(92,366 posts)
23. That is the question they should have asked the group, though I suspect with this group of
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:14 PM
Sep 2018

of republican women they would have been just fine with it


lunasun

(21,646 posts)
32. Maybe? Republican so God's will, mysterious ways,or God has chosen the father of your child for you.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:43 PM
Sep 2018

Separation

(1,975 posts)
30. You misunderstand what gaslighting is then
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

They (the republicans) are trying to put out a signal or a statement of, "Us women prescribe to this bullshit". So that women watching will say, "oh yea, so do I". Thats gaslighting.

still_one

(92,366 posts)
43. I think what you said was pretty accurate. It is a form of manipulation. That of course is open to
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 12:55 AM
Sep 2018

some interpretation, but in the end it is a deception into making people think something is not what it appears


lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. Republican woman -"Normal American boys do do things like this"
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:28 PM
Sep 2018
big insult to American men ( the real normal ones who never did this as a teen boy) and normalizing assault of teen girls
I thought they couldn't go any lower

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
39. Yes. I broke up with a man decades ago who
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:42 PM
Sep 2018

said he was going to encourage his son to get as much ass as he could. I asked if he thought it was okay for boys to treat his daughter this way. He couldn't answer. The man grew up in a privileged neighborhood, college, etc. He was a professional, and was hellbent on improving his social status at every opportunity. Very Republican.

haele

(12,673 posts)
59. Yes. Their sons are little princes.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 11:21 AM
Sep 2018

And these sort of women will do anything to protect their precious princes and the family name. So - their opinion is that any girl their son had sex with was consensual, ill advised or not. All those "lying sluts" who entrapped their darling boys were just after the family status or money, and deserve all the scorn and ridicule they're going to get if they try to pin anything on the poor dear.

Those low girls should just keep their mouths shut and feel lucky a boy paid attention to them...
Doesn't matter if the girl came from a good family or not. "Like all good girls, you shouldn't have acted like such a slut and gone to that frat party...make them put a ring on that finger before you take a drink and drop your panties."
On edit. I went to University feeder public school with a couple "high class" kids whose parents didn't want to send them to the local private academies - which were all Christian-based.
This was the attitude their parents had - the little princes could do no wrong and were left to their own devices, and the little princesses were petted and pampered - and were watched like hawks whenever they interacted with us plebes. Most of those kids were pretty f***ed up.

Haele

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
38. They are REPUBLICANS. They are fine with patriarchy,
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:38 PM
Sep 2018

Authoritarianism, and bigotry towards anyone different or leading a different lifestyle.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
40. This is not what normal American boys do.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:53 PM
Sep 2018

I am one. Or was one. No young boy now! White southern and male in my 50’s.

When I was in college in the mid 80’s we caught a guy working hard to undress a passed out young girl in a fraternity room. We put a beat down on him like none I have ever seen and not participated in since. Not saying we should have done so. But we were all somewhat drunk young boys. And we knew right from wrong. Had we called campus police nothing would have happened. And hell, I was politically conservative then!

But we were not from rich families and our mothers worked and we were taught to respect women.

It pisses me off to no end when people say this is what boys do. Bullshit. It is what predators do.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
41. I clicked away within seconds
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:01 PM
Sep 2018

But it sounded exactly like my Republican aunt and her female friends.

That's the way they think. Anything and everything is rationalized in favor of Donald Trump and his preferreds.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
49. if these women were raped would they still be OK with it?
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:48 AM
Sep 2018

For some reason I would say yes. I don't get it.

Trueblue Texan

(2,440 posts)
53. I don't think they believe it's ok...
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:45 AM
Sep 2018

...I think it's more that denial thing, "It can't happen to me, she must have done something to provoke it." I heard somewhere where women on rape juries are less likely to convict than men because of this mindset.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
55. Here is a link
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:48 AM
Sep 2018

[link:

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I wish the media would stop putting these asshats on tv. Last time I checked attempted rape and assault are crimes. First they say they are sure he didn't do this and then they downplay it and justify it saying various things like maybe he just touched her etc and what teenage boy didn't do this, and people can redeem themselves etc wtf? I would say the majority don’t do anything like this or rape etc. One of my father’s friends was raped in highschool by similar athletic types like these vomitous creeps, fortunately they have not been nominated for a sc or high positions anywhere. If this is really the belief patterns of these women and others you can see why some teenage boys may feel it is ok I guess. In my mind though no one commits an assault like this unless the are seriosly disturbed which he and his friend obvioulsy are. I kind of feel like someone paid them to say this.

still_one

(92,366 posts)
56. Thanks for posting the link Meow. It was so outrageous and unbelievalbe. While they were
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 10:18 AM
Sep 2018

identified as republican women, there is no way this represents the vast majority of women in my view, and in fact, I would argue it doesn't event represent the majority of republican women


Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
61. You're welcome😊
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:21 AM
Sep 2018

I see now they are actually republican operatives, not a surprise. Yep, if they represent a majority of r women we are in big trouble.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
60. THere are a lot of women who believe that's just how boys are. I was in a therapy group once and .
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 09:28 PM
Sep 2018

one of the women has been sexually abused as a child, and basically shrugged it off, saying something to the effect of, "That's just what men do." That's what she'd been taught. SHe changed her view after being in the group for awhile, but that's what she thought when she first got there.

I don't know if it was one of their daughters how they would feel.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
62. Crazy But Not Surprising
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:11 PM
Sep 2018

That kind of talk is crazy, but not surprising. I do not know whether these women are from the South, but this type of language is standard operating procedure in many places in this country especially, the South. I have never heard that type of behavior described as normal behavior for an American boy, but I have heard many people blame the women who were attacked and not the men who attacked them. People claimed the women should not have been drunk, they should not have been in a room alone with men, or they should not have dressed the way they were dressed.

I think these women would feel different if it happens to their daughters. I think these women are under the impression that it could never happen to their daughters because their daughters were raised right. Their daughters would never do what the girls who get raped do, which causes them to get raped. That may be another reason people who get raped and assaulted do not report their rapes and sexual assaults when they happen. Assault victims may be afraid to tell their family that they had done the things their families thought caused people to get raped and assaulted.

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