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New Twist in the Kavanaugh saga raises unpleasant questions. (Original Post) triron Sep 2018 OP
Paywall alert grumpyduck Sep 2018 #1
Try incognito mode. irisblue Sep 2018 #11
I read that earlier meadowlark5 Sep 2018 #2
My money is on Judge - the guy who can't remember anything. n/t CincyDem Sep 2018 #4
Ah, that's right meadowlark5 Sep 2018 #6
Has the guy Whelan named been heard from? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #3
If Whelan showed a floor plan, grumpyduck Sep 2018 #5
My take on this paragraph, it that Whelan just faked these so called floor plans.... riversedge Sep 2018 #9
Oh, that guy--Kavanaugh's best friend and advocate. librechik Sep 2018 #7
Here is the story.......... riversedge Sep 2018 #8
Orrin Hatch's aide told everyone: "...mysteriously told everyone to keep an eye on Whelan's Twitter riversedge Sep 2018 #10
Hatch is a conspirator. triron Sep 2018 #13
Floor plans sometimes available through online real estate listings RockCreek Sep 2018 #12

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
2. I read that earlier
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 11:54 AM
Sep 2018

Seems there is a lot of information that only could be shared by someone who had direct knowledge of the incident.

I mean, how could you just pull a house out of your ass and show floor plans and everything? Who was he talking to? Can't be just a theory all on his own.

grumpyduck

(6,246 posts)
5. If Whelan showed a floor plan,
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 12:04 PM
Sep 2018

I'd be curiuos as to when and where he got it. Those can usually be found at the County Clerk's office, but the timing, and knowing the address, seem a little too convenient.

riversedge

(70,275 posts)
9. My take on this paragraph, it that Whelan just faked these so called floor plans....
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 12:16 PM
Sep 2018


.......The conservative strategist who floated the alternate attempted rape theory, Ed Whelan, has been active in conservative judicial circles for a long time, and is close to Kavanaugh. He posted a long Twitter thread — which we will not link to here, and nor will we name the man he fingered — that rather creatively employed maps and floor plans of the house at which he suggested the attack took place. Whelan also posted the name and a photo of his alternate suspect.

riversedge

(70,275 posts)
8. Here is the story..........
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 12:14 PM
Sep 2018



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An ugly new twist in the Kavanaugh saga raises very unpleasant questions



https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/09/21/a-new-twist-in-the-kavanaugh-saga-raises-some-very-unpleasant-questions/?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&utm_term=.ced20ac77081

Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh on Sept. 6 during his confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)
By Greg Sargent
Opinion writer


September 21 at 9:49 AM

On Thursday night, Twitter was aflame with the news that a prominent conservative legal strategist had gone public with the theory that another man may have been the perpetrator of the alleged sexual assault against Christine Blasey Ford.

The strategist suggested that Ford had confused this man for Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh — and worse, he named the other man, in effect publicly accusing him of committing attempted rape.

Ford promptly denied that she had confused this man for Kavanaugh, whom she has accused of attacking her when both were teenagers during the 1980s. But, as some commentators — including conservative ones — were quick to point out, Kavanaugh needs to clarify whether he had any advance knowledge of this strategy of pinning the blame on someone else.

Senior Democratic aides tell me that, in the upcoming Judiciary Committee hearing, Senate Democrats are likely to pose questions along these lines directly to Kavanaugh, when he is under oath.


The conservative strategist who floated the alternate attempted rape theory, Ed Whelan, has been active in conservative judicial circles for a long time, and is close to Kavanaugh. He posted a long Twitter thread — which we will not link to here, and nor will we name the man he fingered — that rather creatively employed maps and floor plans of the house at which he suggested the attack took place. Whelan also posted the name and a photo of his alternate suspect.


The Post reports these details on Whelan’s relationship with Kavanaugh, and crucially, on private conversations Kavanaugh has been having with his strategists:

Whelan has been involved in helping to advise Kavanaugh’s confirmation effort and is close friends with both Kavanaugh and Leonard Leo, the head of the Federalist Society who has been helping to spearhead the nomination. Kavanaugh and Whelan also worked together in the Bush administration.

Kavanaugh and his allies have been privately discussing a defense that would not question whether an incident involving Ford happened, but instead would raise doubts that the attacker was Kavanaugh, according to a person familiar with the discussions.


What this says is that Whelan has helped advise Kavanaugh’s strategy, and that Kavanaugh has been involved in developing a strategy of acknowledging that the attack did happen while saying it wasn’t him, but it does not directly connect Kavanaugh to Whelan’s particular strategy of publicly accusing someone else of the attack.................

riversedge

(70,275 posts)
10. Orrin Hatch's aide told everyone: "...mysteriously told everyone to keep an eye on Whelan's Twitter
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 12:29 PM
Sep 2018

Something bad is going down--just a matter of when!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/09/21/a-new-twist-in-the-kavanaugh-saga-raises-some-very-unpleasant-questions/?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&utm_term=.ced20ac77081




An ugly new twist in the Kavanaugh saga raises very unpleasant question
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Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh on Sept. 6 during his confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)
By Greg Sargent
Opinion writer
September 21 at 9:49 AM

On Thursday night, Twitter was aflame with the news that a prominent conservative legal strategist had gone public with the theory that another man may have been the perpetrator of the alleged sexual assault against Christine Blasey Ford.

..............Whelan apologized on Friday morning for publicly implicating someone else, and it is, of course, entirely possible that Kavanaugh had no knowledge whatsoever of Whelan’s machinations. Indeed, it is worth noting that if Kavanaugh did know or had been involved in discussions about this strategy, and either tacitly allowed Whelan to proceed or did not actively try to stop it, it would constitute an unthinkably boneheaded blunder on his part — which perhaps militates against him having knowledge of it.

Still, there are plenty of unanswered questions about this episode hovering around. On Thursday, a top aide to Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, a Utah Republican who sits on the Judiciary Committee, mysteriously told everyone to keep an eye on Whelan’s Twitter feed. Though he has since claimed no knowledge of Whelan’s plan, this at least raises questions as to whether it had come up in internal discussions with the very Republicans who will vote to move Kavanaugh’s nomination forward.

Indeed, Steve Schmidt, who ran Supreme Court confirmation efforts for Republicans in the past but recently left the GOP, was quite forceful on this point. He noted on Twitter that “it is inconceivable to me,” based on his own experience, “that Whelan published that email without discussions, debate and assistance” from the White House and “GOP Senators and staff.”

When it comes to Kavanaugh’s role, we do know, per The Post’s reporting above, that Kavanaugh was at least involved in discussions about a strategy that would acknowledge the attack but say it was someone else — which itself invites further questioning.

And Schmidt raised the question on Twitter as to whether the nominee might have known or been involved in Whelan’s strategy in some way. Schmidt cautioned that “no one should presume” Kavanaugh had knowledge, but added pointedly: “if he did, it utterly and irrevocably disqualifies him as a Justice of the United States Supreme Court.”

Tom Nichols, a conservative commentator, agreed:..................


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Here is the tweet from Sen Orrin Hatch's aide: Matt Whitlock
🇺🇸
‏ @mattdizwhitlock





Matt Whitlock 🇺🇸 @mattdizwhitlock

Deleted this earlier (from yesterday) because I didn’t want to promote a thread that dragged an unrelated private citizen into this unfortunate situation

I had no idea what Ed was planning (we’ve never spoken) beyond what he had tweeted about having info exonerating Kavanaugh.






Jake Winter @jakewinter
12h12 hours ago
Replying to @mattdizwhitlock @joshgerstein

@amyklobuchar @KamalaHarris We need this man and Kavanaugh under oath re: whether they were involved in Whelan’s smear attempt.

3 replies 24 retweets 139 likes

TARZ
‏Verified account @TheyCallMeTarz
2h2 hours ago

Whitlock is Hatch's director, so it'd be great to get Hatch on the other side of the table under oath as well.
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