Here's two ways RR will go after those 55+. Just easy starts for them.

[Faygo Kid]

1. Raise the Medicare eligibility age, beginning immediately.

Move the needle, a month at a time. If you're, say, 64 and expect to get Medicare on your 65th birthday, they will try to add as little as one or as much as six months immediately. If you're 60, we're talking possibly a couple years.

2. This affects all current Social Security recipients: Implement the "chained CPI."

The "chained CPI" would recalculate the Consumer Price Index used to raise Social Security benefits so as to keep up with inflation to "account for consumer options." In other words, if consumers have bought beef, and that goes up in price, they assume consumers will simply change to chicken. If that goes up, then seniors can move to cat food. It's an insidious ploy to immediately reduce benefits to existing and future recipients. Actually, if there was an honest "senior CPI," Social Security benefits would go up in excess of general inflation, because seniors spend such a disproportionate share of their incomes on health care costs, which continue to explode.

These are just a couple modest moves to expect immediately that give lie to the "if you're over 55" claim. Of course, their ultimate goal is far more radical. Ayn Rand and her insane philosophy will destroy this country if they get in.

[RagAss]

1. They will fuck you from any angle they want to.....

Just make sure they don't get elected.

[HiPointDem]

2. SS has already been raised to 67 for everybody born after 1950 or so. they want to raise it to 70.

well, that should cut the cost considerable.

[flamingdem]

3. I agree. I participated in a Focus Group and the upshot was that

and I was the only one in the group saying it's not fair.

Everyone else just shrugged and said they thought they'd have to work until they dropped anyway.

Americans are SHEEP on this one, or were.

[HiPointDem]

4. they've heard 'social security is going bankrupt' for so long they think its a fact. never under-

estimate the power of propaganda.

the democratic party should be making the counter-case, but for the most part theyre going along with the gop storyline.

'yes, there's a problem, we won't hurt you as much'

[flamingdem]

5. That's the crux of it, they push the - you're lucky if there's any left

idea to scare people.

One big problem: there are no jobs so how do they expect to keep people alive w/o SS before 70 or so?

[HiPointDem]

6. they don't, obviously. maybe they'll bring back the poor farm, put 'em to work in the new urban

gardens to feed the yuppies.

[flamingdem]

7. gak! You might be on to something

It will be prettied up -- nice Farmer's market workers!

Fetch me a bushel of arugula now! .. I see my future

[HiPointDem]

10. yeah, all shiny & yuppified, decorated with pictures of shiny 'farm families' in their designer down

home cabins, while behind the scenes the 60-year-olds are hoeing the rows, along with the remnants of the urban poor and the prison chain gangs.

[flamingdem]

13. Well let's look at the upside

at least we'll stay in shape!

And have access to organic vegetables, then again they'll probably really be sprayed with Paraquat, to save a few cents.

It is true that some fellow almost geezers have discussed living communally and off the land to lower costs. That was something I studied in school in Vermont in the late 70s. Communes! Most of them were pretty sketchy.

[HiPointDem]

14. yeah, like the old-time poor farm residents stayed in shape. i.e. they died young, but at least

they died skinny.

the wealthy were the fat ones in that era.

[CrispyQ]

8. The +55 line is just to keep the seniors in line.

They'll find a way to steal it all. Every last fucking penny.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

9. Over 55 don’t worry be happy. They will not come for your social security after they devastate mine

After they divide us into 55 plus/minus, why would younger people work to support your “generous” benefits knowing, there will be nothing in it for us?

[HiPointDem]

12. i'm over 55, & i've been ringing this bell for a long time. why would you think that so long as we

get ours we don't give a shit about anyone else?

the ruling class is an equal-opportunity destroyer.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

15. Not an attack on the over 55 crowd - just a reminder there is a bigger plan at work here

[AnotherMcIntosh]

11. Here's a third way based on an analogy. At one time, Social Security benefits were not subject to

the federal income tax. Ronald Reagan, in addition to dramatically increasing the Social Security tax (while being given false publicity for allegedly lowering taxes), made 50% of the Social Security benefits subject to taxation under certain circumstances. Bill Clinton increased the percentage from 50% to 85%.

Under a third way, the Medicare payouts on behalf of Medicare recipients could be taxed to the Medicare recipients.

[HiPointDem]

16. that's their game plan, chip away little by little til what's left bears no resemblance to the

original & the program is ineffectual or actually harmful.