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So, Kavanaugh is an alcoholic as well? (Original Post) Equinox Moon Sep 2018 OP
Seems like an alcoholic could not do their job well... Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #1
Active and true alcoholics don't normally get hangovers, imo. elleng Sep 2018 #8
If he's an active alcoholic... cynatnite Sep 2018 #2
He is looking at jail. Blue_true Sep 2018 #11
He has the face of a heavy drinker BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #22
I agree. Puffy, plus ruddy and sallow at the same time. spooky3 Sep 2018 #33
Seems that way. No. elleng Sep 2018 #3
The accuser from 1998 said he was drunk Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #5
Right. elleng Sep 2018 #9
Kavanaugh says he doesn't remember. Xipe Totec Sep 2018 #4
He could be having black-outs. Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #7
Sorry, forgot to put the sarcastathingie - that's exactly what I meant to imply. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2018 #10
Sounds like a lot of them, at fortuitous times. elleng Sep 2018 #13
I know, but if he was drunk a lot, he could be having true black-outs. Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #15
Yes. elleng Sep 2018 #17
I thought that too. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2018 #42
He could not remember if he was drunk. Blue_true Sep 2018 #16
I suspect he's what we used to call a "dry drunk"... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #6
we as women bdamomma Sep 2018 #12
This will take time for men to "get it" about their behavior with women Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #20
highly bdamomma Sep 2018 #21
Well, BlueSpot Sep 2018 #14
Never heard of it. Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #18
I thought it was a common idiom BlueSpot Sep 2018 #23
I've heard it customerserviceguy Sep 2018 #37
I've heard it. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #31
No, but being a rapist and sexual predator would disqualify him. Bluepinky Sep 2018 #19
Who did he rape? I can't keep these straight. Bonx Sep 2018 #24
Julie Swetnick, Michael Avenatti's client, has claimed she was drugged and sexually assaulted. Bluepinky Sep 2018 #27
Being an ACTIVE alcoholic should OF COURSE disqualify him for a permanent SCOTUS seat. nt pnwmom Sep 2018 #26
He sure has the complexion of a heavy drinker mnhtnbb Sep 2018 #25
Sure looks like it. argyl Sep 2018 #28
He may have substituted gambling for drinking. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #29
And the gambling in and of itself should be reason to deny him confirmation. argyl Sep 2018 #34
Alcoholism would explain his crummy skin donkeypoofed Sep 2018 #30
My friend and I, worked in several separate hotels, and I did catering to what we would mockingly.. JoeOtterbein Sep 2018 #32
So much for being "sober as a judge"! Tanuki Sep 2018 #38
Yes and no. Some alcoholics do not become abusive and only harm themselves MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #35
He is un-employable! Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #40
Compare him with Queen RBG. I mean, seriously. nolabear Sep 2018 #36
He could have stopped drinking get the red out Sep 2018 #39
Yes, he has an addiction personality Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #41

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
1. Seems like an alcoholic could not do their job well...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:47 PM
Sep 2018

He might be hung over when he is hearing cases and not be able to fully "hear" and make major decisions.

elleng

(130,920 posts)
8. Active and true alcoholics don't normally get hangovers, imo.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:50 PM
Sep 2018

(Had one in the family, so I've had some experience observing.)

They can be able fully to function.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
2. If he's an active alcoholic...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:48 PM
Sep 2018

Being a former alcoholic, recovering or whatever one chooses to call it shouldn't be disqualifying, IMO.

He could claim that, but it would utterly destroy his credibility since he called himself a choir boy and categorically denied the assaults.

The asshole has boxed himself in and if he wants to try to save himself, he's going to have keep lying and blaming everyone except himself.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. He is looking at jail.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:52 PM
Sep 2018

If he participated in gang rapes in Maryland, and look like he may have been at least around one that a woman has issued a sworn statement about, he could face a rath of criminal charges if other women come forward.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
22. He has the face of a heavy drinker
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 10:06 PM
Sep 2018

Anyone who has ever spent any time around alcoholics who aren’t in treatment knows the face. I have seen it more times than I care to remember.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
15. I know, but if he was drunk a lot, he could be having true black-outs.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:54 PM
Sep 2018

We need an FBI investigation! Or better yet, he needs to withdraw his nomination.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
42. I thought that too.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:57 PM
Sep 2018


I was struck by the fact his friends and others are all reporting his "heavy" drinking in college, his personality change, etc.
Seems he had been showing a lot of tolerance at a young age.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. He could not remember if he was drunk.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:54 PM
Sep 2018

I have a brother who forgets stuff if he even has two beers. I have never been a drinker of alcohol or did drugs, so him forgetting stuff can be really frustrating for me at times.

bdamomma

(63,852 posts)
12. we as women
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:52 PM
Sep 2018

if this POS gets on the bench, we will be out in the streets. They do not take these allegations seriously again trying to knock women down. I am furious.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
20. This will take time for men to "get it" about their behavior with women
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 10:00 PM
Sep 2018

It is an epidemic and we are only scratching the surface of how really bad this is. Men have been using women for their own pleasure, regardless of it being harmful to the woman. It is HIGHLY prevalent.

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
14. Well,
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:53 PM
Sep 2018

I think we can definitely toss the phrase "Sober as a judge" out the window. I don't think I'll ever use it again. It's broken now.

Bluepinky

(2,271 posts)
19. No, but being a rapist and sexual predator would disqualify him.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:58 PM
Sep 2018

He can’t blame his problems on alcohol, if he knew he had a problem, he should have dealt with it at the time.

mnhtnbb

(31,390 posts)
25. He sure has the complexion of a heavy drinker
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:05 PM
Sep 2018

First time I saw him I thought how could they nominate someone with a drinking problem.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
28. Sure looks like it.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:23 PM
Sep 2018

He may be a nondrinker now but I doubt he's a social drinker.

Looks like he was a hard core blackout drinker. Someone like that with one drink they'd probably be off to the races.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. He may have substituted gambling for drinking.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:26 PM
Sep 2018

Either way, it sounds like this guy has a problem with moderation and self-control. Definitely not someone you want serving as a Supreme Court justice.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
34. And the gambling in and of itself should be reason to deny him confirmation.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:36 PM
Sep 2018

This guy just reeks to high heaven. Hell, the fact he hasn't withdrawn his nomination shows what little decency he has.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
30. Alcoholism would explain his crummy skin
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

He has terrible skin and now I know why. He's still drinking. In fact, I bet he has one in his hand right now. He's under alot of stress, dontchaknow.

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
32. My friend and I, worked in several separate hotels, and I did catering to what we would mockingly..
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:28 PM
Sep 2018

...call the "upper crust." Meetings and parties for Doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers, and ton's of other social events.

We both agree that compared to the other professional groups, when the meetings and parties we cooked and served expensive food and drink, the groups of judges drink more booze than the other groups.

Judging from my experience that many of the other more professional groups actually warn about drinking too much, and it seems to cut down on future drinking events within their groups.

With the judges group meetings, and parties, they seem to all friendly and kind enough to excuse excessive drinking by their fellow members.

It's a problem in the DC-MD-VA area.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
35. Yes and no. Some alcoholics do not become abusive and only harm themselves
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:45 PM
Sep 2018

There’s plenty of evidence that this guy is dangerous when drunk and based on emails from W administration that he is a blackout drinker (he admitted to his buddies that he forgot portion of their party weekend).

Kavanaugh will give secrets to his poker buddies. He will tip the hand of the court. He will politically strategize with republicans from the bench.

He may continue to get drunk and abuse people.

And he has not even said publicly that he has a problem that he is dealing with. (I have a friend who is suspended as a lawyer because of a DUI. Until she is off probation, she will not be able to reapply. She is not a judge, just an attorney, and an honest person even when drunk).

This drinking thing is a huge issue with me as is giving away grand jury secrets, abusive behavior, lying to Congress on multiple occasions.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
40. He is un-employable!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:59 AM
Sep 2018

He has an addition personality. I understand he has a gambling problem as well.
They say these hearings are a job interview. What employer would hire someone with issues, MAJOR issues?

Here is my list of reasons not to "hire" him:

-power & control addict
-alcoholism with black-outs
-gambling
-extreme right-winger
-a white supremacist
-rulings side with corporations and not people
-the only judge to write descent decisions against the majority
- etc....etc....etc....

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