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***Kavanaugh thread 3*** post break (Original Post) underpants Sep 2018 OP
When the Dems start to question Kavanaugh, guarantee that Assley Grassley will try to stop every qu. SummerSnow Sep 2018 #1
If Kav is watching, any interruption of his thought by Grass will rattle him NCjack Sep 2018 #64
K&R JonLP24 Sep 2018 #2
Senator Hirono is up! demmiblue Sep 2018 #3
Thanks for the posts, underpants. blaze Sep 2018 #4
Wish we could clone Mazie Lars39 Sep 2018 #5
She is awesome. Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #8
Thank you, underpants. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #6
LOL Lucinda Sep 2018 #28
Every. Damn. Day. jberryhill Sep 2018 #60
Yep Solly Mack Sep 2018 #62
Lindsey Graham to Manu Raju: "I'm looking for corroboration - this is not an emotional decision... iluvtennis Sep 2018 #7
if Graham wants corroboration NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #9
+++ agree...and Mitchell needs to get to the sexual assault. Tired of these questions abt polygraph iluvtennis Sep 2018 #12
Mitchell is hanging them with polygraph questions. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #17
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #14
He just said "who would the FBI interview" and two reporters said "Judge!" LOL bettyellen Sep 2018 #73
You want corroboration? regnaD kciN Sep 2018 #10
I thought you were going to say NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #16
That, too... regnaD kciN Sep 2018 #46
Because Lindsey doesn't accept the testimony of a woman. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #13
I hated watching him earlier bdamomma Sep 2018 #201
This prosecutor is AWFUL. What we're they thinking? nolabear Sep 2018 #11
+1, she's doing an investigation at the same time needing to be adversarial. can't work uponit7771 Sep 2018 #22
Personal experience with long time Maricopa prosecutor in a rape trial. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #34
Brilliant! nolabear Sep 2018 #39
Good Lord. Dave Starsky Sep 2018 #70
Under my breath I said, "Geez, I feel sorry for his wife" Nevilledog Sep 2018 #75
Lol grantcart Sep 2018 #86
Love that SayitAintSo Sep 2018 #155
Amusingly, it was pointed out that the 11 white male Hortensis Sep 2018 #40
They're trying to catch her in some tiny lie and are failing. nolabear Sep 2018 #15
+1, where as KNaw will mostly evade like he has done uponit7771 Sep 2018 #21
She must have gotten a talking to during the break. demmiblue Sep 2018 #25
It is easy to be a good witness when you are telling the truth. redstatebluegirl Sep 2018 #32
It's going to be interesting. He can't just be okay. nolabear Sep 2018 #33
Wish that were the case... regnaD kciN Sep 2018 #51
They seem to now be suggesting a Democratic Party set-up? brooklynite Sep 2018 #18
Green Eggs and Ham would've been more effective than Mitchell. Don't know where they're going uponit7771 Sep 2018 #19
Yahoo front page a few minutes ago NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #20
Oh yeah. She's got the support of the world. nolabear Sep 2018 #24
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #27
You can tell that someone talked to the prosecutor during the break. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #23
+1, but what can the prosecutor do? She has to go on a fact finding mission at the same time being.. uponit7771 Sep 2018 #29
Cory Booker is making her cry. I hope it's not misplayed. nolabear Sep 2018 #26
Dr. Ford is still on? Iliyah Sep 2018 #30
Hirono and Booker talking too much Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #31
Pro bono counsel! Lars39 Sep 2018 #35
Where did you get your lawyer? Botany Sep 2018 #36
Somehow Dr. Ford manages to be supportive of her questioners. nolabear Sep 2018 #37
Yes, she is. You can tell it's her general nature. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #43
Yes her demeanor is remarkable indeed. PA Democrat Sep 2018 #44
That is so true!! nt blaze Sep 2018 #45
she is the picture of a patriotic citizen doing the right thing simply because questionseverything Sep 2018 #48
Agreed! llmart Sep 2018 #69
coming into this conversation late bdamomma Sep 2018 #140
repubs doing the right thing? probably not...that is why we must force them questionseverything Sep 2018 #156
Sure she is an outstanding teacher grantcart Sep 2018 #87
The questions by the prosecutor are getting worse Hav Sep 2018 #38
The lawyers are pro bono. nolabear Sep 2018 #41
And splat -- another attempt backfires on the prosecutor! Hortensis Sep 2018 #47
KAMALA! BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #42
And Kamala said "I believe you" -- love it. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #49
Great answer Ford; " I don't expect them to remember, nothing happened to them at that time" uponit7771 Sep 2018 #50
Why not just come out and ask if she was coached? Solly Mack Sep 2018 #52
Someone should get to point out that the prosecutor Hortensis Sep 2018 #55
Exactly. That needs to come out. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #59
She seemed to be throwing out overly general questions in the hope that Ford would give some suffragette Sep 2018 #74
And WH aides running practice sessions with Kavanaugh Isn't coaching? sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #78
Mitchell basically saying, here's why this sucked for me BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #53
Mitchell is more effective for our side than any of the Democratic senators Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #54
I disagree. Mitchell is trying to lay traps for gotcha questions. redstateblues Sep 2018 #65
The traps fail because Dr. Ford is so genuine and truthful and marvelous Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #79
She is sweet and sincere. Our senators are mostly Hortensis Sep 2018 #66
The points can be made in 15 seconds not 3 minutes Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #76
That's a 3-minute break for Ms. Ford before handing Hortensis Sep 2018 #80
I totally agree with this point. LAS14 Sep 2018 #85
Senator Kamala Harris to Dr. Ford: You have passed a polygraph test. Judge Kavanaugh has not.... iluvtennis Sep 2018 #56
Go Blumenthal! Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #57
wouldn't a therapy session be the equivalent of a interview session? shirleye Sep 2018 #58
THAT is what I kept yelling to the TV. BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #63
Court recesses at 2:15 ET for 45 minutes. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #61
What was Kennedy (R Louisiana) after? MadLinguist Sep 2018 #67
Graham "I don't know who paid for the polygraph but somebody did!" JonLP24 Sep 2018 #68
Didn't Ford state that her lawyers paid for it, as protocol? bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #71
Graham is losing it JonLP24 Sep 2018 #77
Yes, her lawyers said the law firms paid for it as per protocol iluvtennis Sep 2018 #82
Pic of the GOPers during the Dr Ford testimony - all disgusting cretins. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #83
POS all of them bdamomma Sep 2018 #221
+++ agree iluvtennis Sep 2018 #232
Nobody paid lol grantcart Sep 2018 #72
LOL, kind of the equivalent of.... Adrahil Sep 2018 #81
MSNBC showed Graham's entire ranting spin, but now Hortensis Sep 2018 #84
I don't know if I can stomach to see Kavanaugh and GOP Senators JonLP24 Sep 2018 #88
And we're off with Grassley smearing Republicans. PA Democrat Sep 2018 #89
The self righteous liar begins iluvtennis Sep 2018 #90
ANGRY! PA Democrat Sep 2018 #91
Just going to make the same comment DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #92
Oh, boy, was I wrong! Wow. Fantastic! Hortensis Sep 2018 #183
Trump laid out the playbook yesterday Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #93
Kavanaugh is in full political mode - nothing about that he wasn't an alcohol and sex abuser... iluvtennis Sep 2018 #94
more lies ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #100
Mean people are borking me! Solly Mack Sep 2018 #95
I think he may be a goner. David__77 Sep 2018 #96
"Revenge on behalf of the Clintons?" Renew Deal Sep 2018 #97
I caught that one too iluvtennis Sep 2018 #119
Her emails!! Bayard Sep 2018 #123
Dude, bitter much? Solly Mack Sep 2018 #98
F*** you kavanaugh, threatening what comes around goes around ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #99
There's the real Kavanaugh. Fuck you and everyone not me. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #101
OMG He's showing what he really is. A political tool. He blew his cover. Snellius Sep 2018 #102
Yup, I can totally see him being angry enough to assault someone. unitedwethrive Sep 2018 #108
"TO HER"? That's Dr. Ford to you, a hole ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #113
One of my best friends was sexually assaulted. Seriously? Seriously? Solly Mack Sep 2018 #103
oh, man, Kavanaugh's poor friend who consulted him about sexual assault ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #104
Mommathon! Solly Mack Sep 2018 #105
Don't cry, dude ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #106
Last thing he needs is a red nose. nolabear Sep 2018 #126
it brings out the gin blossoms ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #128
I hear he gets belligerent when he drinks Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #107
what about every roommate and friend who says ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #109
His daughters prayed for Dr. Ford. Get out your hankies! PA Democrat Sep 2018 #110
temper temper you jerk! orleans Sep 2018 #111
I see you, Alyssa Milano! demmiblue Sep 2018 #112
here comes the waterworks ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #114
Sniffles. Right on Cue. zonkers Sep 2018 #117
My children even prayed for Dr Ford! Solly Mack Sep 2018 #115
From screaming to blubbering. What a mess! PA Democrat Sep 2018 #116
yeah, you've been investigated ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #118
Trump doesn't like weak crybabies... Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #120
O'Donnell on the opening statement DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #121
Yes. It really is just that. Pathetic. Hortensis Sep 2018 #210
Here comes an avalanche of lies ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #158
I only associated with Catholic girls as a Catholic boy, so that means we were all pure. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #124
Gag me. He associated with girls from th CATHOLIC schools. PA Democrat Sep 2018 #125
LOL...i agree iluvtennis Sep 2018 #130
I didn't do it ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #127
His wife looks pissed. underpants Sep 2018 #129
Looks like the SC justices spouse club is slipping away ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #132
She does. Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #177
She's likely a believer, like him. And why blame themselves Hortensis Sep 2018 #215
Calendars bringing him to tears now BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #131
Now he starts to cry about keeping a calendar. Un fkn believable iluvtennis Sep 2018 #133
38 years! Booo hoooo hooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #135
Nice little story about how Dr Ford simply was not of his social status to be part of his group. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #134
I know, the nerve of him to make such an insinuation. I despise this guy. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #157
Me, too. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #161
Wow--doesn't that play right into the story that the boys spooky3 Sep 2018 #167
It does for me. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #175
And the irony is spooky3 Sep 2018 #202
Yep Solly Mack Sep 2018 #224
I can see both of Dr. Ford's attorneys back there, Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #136
oh, really? ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #137
The Calendar! Just look at my calendar! Forget about all my professional papers. It's the Calendar! Solly Mack Sep 2018 #138
He is not displaying the demeanor of a judge ... kentuck Sep 2018 #139
Even if not a rapist, he's guilty of being a drunk looney Repub tool. Snellius Sep 2018 #141
Jesuit Opus Dei? Like Scalia without any brains. Snellius Sep 2018 #152
I'm hearing megalomania and probably paranoia. Hortensis Sep 2018 #222
Drunks are people too. Snellius Sep 2018 #243
Oh Christ are we going to have to listen to every entry on his calendar PA Democrat Sep 2018 #142
Then after me and Biff prayed that no evil women would touch our peepees before marriage... flibbitygiblets Sep 2018 #209
his grating voice, crying and scrunched up expressions are ugly as hell peacebuzzard Sep 2018 #143
sniffing, licking lips, drinking lots of water, yelling, what an ass peacebuzzard Sep 2018 #189
The calendar never lies! Dammit! Why can't you see that?!?! Solly Mack Sep 2018 #144
Basketball camp! Booo hooo hooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #145
You also didn't list your various sexual assaults. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #146
OMG PLEASE don't cite going to church as if it has ANYTHING to do with your ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #147
Priests were in church daily...... How'd that work out for the kids? Nevilledog Sep 2018 #235
Boo Fucking Hoo! Bayard Sep 2018 #148
Bravo! Exactly ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #150
+++ agree. He needs to say that he calls for an FBI investigation. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #165
Tobin's House!!! Booo hoo hooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #149
He wishes that water shanti Sep 2018 #151
I wish it was a beer too. That way we could loosen him up to get the truth. KWR65 Sep 2018 #184
Or worse, he'd start dry humping the furniture flibbitygiblets Sep 2018 #213
This calendar defense is laughable. Goodheart Sep 2018 #153
Kavanaugh taking on water. The nomination I mean. kairos12 Sep 2018 #154
How about Renate? BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #159
Will anyone have the balls to ask? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #197
I like beer, too major debacle Sep 2018 #160
I had female friends! Heres'a list of names!! booo hoo hoooooo! ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #162
Those are the few he didn't try to rape. LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #169
God, enough of this shit. AngryOldDem Sep 2018 #163
I like Beer!! Boooo hooo hooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #164
Tom T. Hall underpants Sep 2018 #207
Did he take rambling lessons from Donnie? major debacle Sep 2018 #166
WTF is saying if you drink beer you're a rapist? Solly Mack Sep 2018 #168
I really don't think he knows what he is saying major debacle Sep 2018 #178
He seems to be going off track a little Solly Mack Sep 2018 #180
Betty Bowers thinks it may be vodka... iluvtennis Sep 2018 #194
LOL! I love Betty Bowers. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #217
me too. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #220
My yearbook entry was sabotaged!!! Booo hooo ohoooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #170
OMG he's attacking the yearbook. 😂😂😂 nolabear Sep 2018 #171
It's all someone else's fault: yearbook editors, news reporters. Not me! suffragette Sep 2018 #190
Mostly it's the meanie Democrats' fault. LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #198
Yep. Never thought I'd see worst than Scalia, but this guy is. suffragette Sep 2018 #228
This is absurd. Really. Goodheart Sep 2018 #172
Typical drunk personality: either mad or maudlin. Snellius Sep 2018 #173
say brett, how about a cold one? miyazaki Sep 2018 #174
David Frum sums it all up neatly DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #176
Renate was one of us!!!! BOOO hoooo hoooo hoooo it was affection! booo hooo hooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #179
When do we break for cocktails? C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #181
Ha. Goodheart Sep 2018 #192
Taking odds of whether he will pass out. Snellius Sep 2018 #182
50-50 at this point ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #195
This message was self-deleted by its author LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #223
That tongue action is well...icky. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #185
This message was self-deleted by its author AngryOldDem Sep 2018 #193
This is beyond bizarre. n/t demmiblue Sep 2018 #186
One for the ages, to be sure... AngryOldDem Sep 2018 #199
No! Not the sex history!!! AngryOldDem Sep 2018 #187
I'm thinking Judge Kavanaugh should have a drink....you know, calm his nerves. brooklynite Sep 2018 #188
I can't believe he is saying again he was a virgin ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #191
Make him show us the calendar commemorating the occasion of his deflowerring!! Nevilledog Sep 2018 #240
Thread #4 here underpants Sep 2018 #196
I think this guy is a little too fragile and unstable to be a SC justice. Booo hooo hooo ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #200
This fool is acting. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #211
and poorly ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #239
good man good man good man . Booo hooo hooo!!1 ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #203
his "defense" is more damning than the accusations. so fucking weird. Snellius Sep 2018 #204
Renate Alumnius Jim__ Sep 2018 #205
He's definitely not SC material. Self-pitying political hack who's been exposed as a creep. nt Cognitive_Resonance Sep 2018 #206
I've got friends, and that's a fact... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #208
I'm sorry to say it... cab67 Sep 2018 #212
It wouldn't matter if he got up there LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #218
I have friends. I definitely have friends. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #214
Is that his wife behind him looking at him like he's so pathetic? Snellius Sep 2018 #216
He wrote this himself? Jim__ Sep 2018 #219
Last night. In his hotel. With a stiff drink. nolabear Sep 2018 #226
Kav is going to take 36 years reading this drivel lovemydogs Sep 2018 #225
Well, I'll give him his time. Especially when it's going so well. nolabear Sep 2018 #227
Not offering to take that polygraph is he. voteearlyvoteoften Sep 2018 #229
Or belatedly asking for FBI investigations into Hortensis Sep 2018 #236
Merrick Garland didn't even get a hearing you self-pitying douche BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #230
I am judging you by that standard asshole. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #231
This part about due process is 100% steaming hot BS Jarqui Sep 2018 #233
Mitchell again. demmiblue Sep 2018 #234
Btw, LOL, this is the eminent, nationally renowned Hortensis Sep 2018 #246
Can't wait for Sen Maize & Harris & Feinstein to stick a fork in him Bfd Sep 2018 #237
Can you imagine if SHE was this hysterical? Fuck this sniveling motherfucker. ancianita Sep 2018 #238
DiFi asks why not ask for an investigation BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #241
Now he's yelling down Feinstein Hav Sep 2018 #242
If he's not drunk, he REALLY has a problem. Snellius Sep 2018 #244
crying and beer. ass loves beer peacebuzzard Sep 2018 #245
Don't know how much he drinks today, but acting Hortensis Sep 2018 #247

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
64. If Kav is watching, any interruption of his thought by Grass will rattle him
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:18 PM
Sep 2018

even more. And, we will surely be treated to some new lies.

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
7. Lindsey Graham to Manu Raju: "I'm looking for corroboration - this is not an emotional decision...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:43 PM
Sep 2018

mkraju
26m26 minutes ago
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Lindsey Graham to us: “I’m looking for corroboration - this is not an emotional decision. This is a factual decision... unless something new comes forward, you have just an emotional accusation and emotional denial - without corroboration.”





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So have your mouthpiece Mitchell ask questions about the sexual assault and not fear of flying and other non pertinent bullshit.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. if Graham wants corroboration
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:44 PM
Sep 2018

how about FUCKING calling some more witnesses??????????

Mark Judge
Judge's ex girlfriend
the other women making allegations
Sex abuse experts

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
12. +++ agree...and Mitchell needs to get to the sexual assault. Tired of these questions abt polygraph
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:46 PM
Sep 2018

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
17. Mitchell is hanging them with polygraph questions.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:48 PM
Sep 2018

Kavanaugh loves polygraphs and he refused to take one.

Ford did and passed with flying colors.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
73. He just said "who would the FBI interview" and two reporters said "Judge!" LOL
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:27 PM
Sep 2018

They’re hoping they can use this to whip up their base for November. And he’s right, I want them to hold up a judge till there is a Dem in the WH. Turnaround is fair play assholes!!!

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
10. You want corroboration?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:45 PM
Sep 2018

There’s one way to get that, and it rhymes with “FBI schminvestigation.”

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
13. Because Lindsey doesn't accept the testimony of a woman.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:47 PM
Sep 2018

Therefore, by his logic, sexual assault cases can only be believed if there's a video and a confession?

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
201. I hated watching him earlier
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:47 PM
Sep 2018

when Dr. Ford was being interviewed, his body language explained it all. Jerk.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
11. This prosecutor is AWFUL. What we're they thinking?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:45 PM
Sep 2018

Any number of women could do better if that’s all they needed.

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
34. Personal experience with long time Maricopa prosecutor in a rape trial.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:57 PM
Sep 2018

Yes, I was defending a young man accused of rape. No record, National Guard. He and the girl were blackout drunk.... Video to prove it. Girl didn't want to prosecute, State did anyway.

Anyhow, when this 26 yrs of experience prosecutor was questioning the sexual assault nurse about slight redness on the girl's cervix, he proudly asked the following:

Isn't it true that this redness is different from what you would see from an urinary tract infection?

I turned to him and loudly said, "Paul, we don't pee out of our vaginas!"

Female judge and female jurors were disgusted he was so clueless about simple female anatomy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Amusingly, it was pointed out that the 11 white male
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:00 PM
Sep 2018

Repub senators having to hide in the shadows instead of giving speeches disguised as questions means they aren't getting footage they can use in personal promos and reelection commercials.


As for the prosecutor, a number of colleagues have pointed out that investigation is always done first, and prosecutors then have the findings not just to work with but to decide if they should proceed at all. She's flying blind on wings of political purpose, and her colleagues have scant sympathy for her because they consider this highly unethical.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
15. They're trying to catch her in some tiny lie and are failing.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:47 PM
Sep 2018

Dr. Blassey Ford is so much better prepared it’s astounding.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
32. It is easy to be a good witness when you are telling the truth.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:56 PM
Sep 2018

The bad witness is one who lies and has to remember the lies they have told so they don't get caught. A good example will be Kavanaugh.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
51. Wish that were the case...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:09 PM
Sep 2018

...but, seriously, I think all he needs to do is indignantly play the falsely-accused innocent guy, and Republicans will shrug, say “who can you decide is telling the truth after all?” and move on to confirm, because any doubt HAS to go in the “accused’s” favor.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
23. You can tell that someone talked to the prosecutor during the break.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:51 PM
Sep 2018

She's come out much more aggressive than she was all morning.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
29. +1, but what can the prosecutor do? She has to go on a fact finding mission at the same time being..
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:55 PM
Sep 2018

... adversarial in questioning.

She's stuck, I don't know what the KGOP was thinking on this

The lack of continuity alone is making the non cross examination defunct.

Now she's talking about choosing an attorney !?!

WTF !?!?!

REALLY ?!?

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
26. Cory Booker is making her cry. I hope it's not misplayed.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:53 PM
Sep 2018

He needs to be careful. Trauma victims can react hard to support.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
31. Hirono and Booker talking too much
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:55 PM
Sep 2018

Let Dr. Ford speak. Ask her anything. She does great. Listening to senators talk is a waste of the precious 5 minutes

Botany

(70,516 posts)
36. Where did you get your lawyer?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:59 PM
Sep 2018

Ford, "I grew up here so I asked family and friends here."



Ford's lawyer, "We are both doing this pro-bono."







nolabear

(41,984 posts)
37. Somehow Dr. Ford manages to be supportive of her questioners.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:59 PM
Sep 2018

She’s kind to them. There’s not an ounce of malice nor accusation of it in her.

It’s remarkable.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
69. Agreed!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:25 PM
Sep 2018

This is true patriotism but because she's not all wrapped up in the flag and shouting USA USA, it won't count as far as the right wingers are concerned.

There are many more ways of being a patriot and serving your country than just the military.

I'd like to walk up to Dr. Ford and say, "Thank you for your service."

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
140. coming into this conversation late
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:36 PM
Sep 2018

apparently you only wish the jerky repigs on this committee did the right thing.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
156. repubs doing the right thing? probably not...that is why we must force them
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:39 PM
Sep 2018

dr ford is a much better person than I...her kindness and grace is apparent

Hav

(5,969 posts)
38. The questions by the prosecutor are getting worse
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:00 PM
Sep 2018

She's getting back to the case now but before that wondering whether someone else will pay her lawyers or whether she got the questions in advance seem really irrelevant unless she wants to paint her as a paid operative. It's not going to work.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. And splat -- another attempt backfires on the prosecutor!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018

Our poor victim explained how she hasn't had a chance to examine all the papers and bills piling up because they've had to relocate twice but that she'll have to catch up on all of that later. Straight to GoFundMe.

I suspect the senators told the prosecutor to get tougher during the lunch break.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
52. Why not just come out and ask if she was coached?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:11 PM
Sep 2018

Because that's what this current line of questioning is about.

That she, and the Democrats, went straight for the lawyers, instead of going through usual route for sexual assault victims.

As if this is the usual case.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. Someone should get to point out that the prosecutor
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sep 2018

is believed to have helped coach Kavanaugh. Foul!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
74. She seemed to be throwing out overly general questions in the hope that Ford would give some
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:28 PM
Sep 2018

answer that would either be a gotcha or open another avenue of inquiry.

Agree that she was trying to make this about Dems paying for, coaching or in any way directing or assisting Ford.

Ford answered very well and clearly truthfullyand her lawyers interjected appropriately.

Ford also was very open about being confused about what was being asked when the questions were overly general and inquiring about what specifically a question was getting at.


 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
54. Mitchell is more effective for our side than any of the Democratic senators
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:12 PM
Sep 2018

Simple reason. Mitchell actually asks questions and allows Dr. Ford to speak, and Ford comes across superbly well, as a sweet sincere woman doing her best to remember and describe.

I have not been impressed with our senators at all, and especially during this post-break session. It is one monologue after another. Kamala Harris apparently believes she is running for president right here and now but it is essentially a full waste of the 5 minutes. Harris didn't allow Dr. Ford to speak at all.

Pathetic. Beyond pathetic. When highlights of this session are shown tonight, Dr. Ford will be shown. Her words. Not Kamala Harris' words. Harris just threw away 5 full minutes.

If our senators wanted to monologue for 5 minutes at least cut it to 4:45 and then end by asking Dr. Ford if she was 100% certain that it was Brett Kavanaugh. Then allow Dr. Ford to repeat that emphasis again. At least that would accomplish something.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
65. I disagree. Mitchell is trying to lay traps for gotcha questions.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:18 PM
Sep 2018

Mitchell is reading questions that Grassley et al have written. They had nothing. I see no point in saying the same thing over and over.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
79. The traps fail because Dr. Ford is so genuine and truthful and marvelous
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:30 PM
Sep 2018

Mitchell inadvertently allows those traits to surface while our bungling senators muzzle Dr. Ford while in love with their own words

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
66. She is sweet and sincere. Our senators are mostly
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:19 PM
Sep 2018

making points to shape the story that need to be made. Such as reminding the nation that this is not a court and she is a citizen performing a difficult civic duty and that she has been betrayed by the Republicans' refusal to investigate and subpoena witnesses.

How do you feel after being victimized all over again by these scurrilous Republicans?

"I just wish I could be more helpful."



 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
76. The points can be made in 15 seconds not 3 minutes
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:28 PM
Sep 2018

We are butchering the handicapping. Nobody cares about our senators and nobody is going to remember their long windup questions. It's like everybody on that panel wants to emulate Rachel Maddow...rinse and repeat.

Dr. Ford is the gem. Dr. Ford is the star. Dr. Ford can prevent Kavanaugh. For every second our senators speak that removes another opportunity for a memorable sentence or facial expression or emotional moment from Dr. Ford.

It is absolutely asinine but we tend to fail to understand basics like this

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. That's a 3-minute break for Ms. Ford before handing
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:33 PM
Sep 2018

her back to the speeding-up rat-tat-tat from the prosecutor.

And America's had all the sweet moments needed to get the right impression. Too many risk turning into an OD -- and of course always risk a slip. Not because she's dishonest, just because something could finally happen that they could get their hands on and twist into something more than it is.

Think about it. And remember these are pros, and you are not.

Btw, I read that Kavanaugh, choir boy that he's always been, considers always being humble a very important principle. Even keeps a reminder close by.

The prosecutor just said "We're almost done," and Dr. Ford breathed a grateful "Thank you."

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
85. I totally agree with this point.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018
Mitchell is more effective for our side than any of the Democratic senators


They gave her a list of things they wanted explored and she did it in a respectful manner and Ford hit the answers out of the park. Mitchell radiates a belief that Ford may be telling the truth.

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
56. Senator Kamala Harris to Dr. Ford: You have passed a polygraph test. Judge Kavanaugh has not....
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sep 2018

@keithboykin
5m5 minutes ago

Senator Kamala Harris to Dr. Ford: You have passed a polygraph test. Judge Kavanaugh has not. You have called for outside witnesses to testify. Judge Kavanaugh has not. You have called for an independent investigation into the facts. Judge Kavanaugh has not. #KavanughHearings

shirleye

(58 posts)
58. wouldn't a therapy session be the equivalent of a interview session?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:14 PM
Sep 2018

and the main complaint was they didn't have a FBI interview

MadLinguist

(790 posts)
67. What was Kennedy (R Louisiana) after?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:22 PM
Sep 2018

It seems like Grassley stepped on it, but it was hard to know what the was being set up

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
68. Graham "I don't know who paid for the polygraph but somebody did!"
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:23 PM
Sep 2018

Isn't that like looking at the wrong end of a telescope?

"I feel ambushed"

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
221. POS all of them
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:52 PM
Sep 2018

I hope everything flies back into their faces. Do not underestimate the power of women.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
81. LOL, kind of the equivalent of....
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:35 PM
Sep 2018

"Who paid for those security cameras that recorded the robbery? The bank? Sounds like a conflict of interest!"

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
84. MSNBC showed Graham's entire ranting spin, but now
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018

the panel is about to tear them to shreds.

Brian Williams: "Well, that was interesting. Like .... is anyone alleging she got in it for a free polygraph? ..."

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
88. I don't know if I can stomach to see Kavanaugh and GOP Senators
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

I'm gonna play games. I'll catch the lowlights on Rachel Maddow..

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
92. Just going to make the same comment
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:12 PM
Sep 2018

I'm not watching, just listening, but he is coming off as a complete a$$hole.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
183. Oh, boy, was I wrong! Wow. Fantastic!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:45 PM
Sep 2018

I thought he was going to try to match Dr. Ford humble for humble.

This is a mistake!

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
94. Kavanaugh is in full political mode - nothing about that he wasn't an alcohol and sex abuser...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:18 PM
Sep 2018

...attaching the Dems full blast.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
99. F*** you kavanaugh, threatening what comes around goes around
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:20 PM
Sep 2018

Starr/Lewinsky is coming around for YOU, asshole

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
108. Yup, I can totally see him being angry enough to assault someone.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:23 PM
Sep 2018

He's just showing us what his personality is capable of.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
104. oh, man, Kavanaugh's poor friend who consulted him about sexual assault
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:21 PM
Sep 2018

talk about picking the wrong person to talk to

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
121. O'Donnell on the opening statement
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:29 PM
Sep 2018

Lawrence O'Donnell
‏Verified account @Lawrence

Brett Kavanaugh wrote his own statement.

It is the statement of a partisan political hack.
12:19 pm - 27 Sep 2018

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
210. Yes. It really is just that. Pathetic.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:48 PM
Sep 2018

But how will it be taken by the trumpsters? "You sowed the wind for decades to come. I fear that the whole country will reap the whirlwind." WOW!

Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #122)

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
127. I didn't do it
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:31 PM
Sep 2018

and yet, Mark Judge, who was in the room, is not even called to testify.

Why?

Why no investigation, K?

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
132. Looks like the SC justices spouse club is slipping away
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:33 PM
Sep 2018

I'm reminded of Gus Grissom's wife in The Right Stuff. No tea with Jackie Kennedy for her.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
215. She's likely a believer, like him. And why blame themselves
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:50 PM
Sep 2018

for being themselves when she can blame all the awful people who did this to them?

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
134. Nice little story about how Dr Ford simply was not of his social status to be part of his group.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:33 PM
Sep 2018

Asshole

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
167. Wow--doesn't that play right into the story that the boys
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:42 PM
Sep 2018

targeted certain girls because they were outsiders, etc?

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
202. And the irony is
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:47 PM
Sep 2018

I looked at all the financials he released early on. Unless he omitted some gifts or income, his family is house poor, whereas her family is likely very comfortable, in that she and her husband likely make more and have higher professional status than do the Kavanaughs. She could out-snob him now, but that’s not who she is.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
224. Yep
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:53 PM
Sep 2018

But then money doesn't buy class.

I went to school with kids just like him. Skated through school on their parent's money and standing. Carried it with them into adulthood even when their own bank accounts were in the red.

But my daddy was...but my mother was...kind of thing.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
141. Even if not a rapist, he's guilty of being a drunk looney Repub tool.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:36 PM
Sep 2018

Loving watching him crack up. Judicial temperament?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
222. I'm hearing megalomania and probably paranoia.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:53 PM
Sep 2018

Our country's going down because we're not going to have him to kick around any more. We'll reap the wind of our sowing.

Is he threatening us? You'll never get me to quit, never. Quit what?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
209. Then after me and Biff prayed that no evil women would touch our peepees before marriage...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:48 PM
Sep 2018

We stopped to help some little old ladies across the street before volunteering at the homeless shelter, I guess?

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
146. You also didn't list your various sexual assaults.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:37 PM
Sep 2018

Because...who the fuck would? (besides a sociopath)

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
147. OMG PLEASE don't cite going to church as if it has ANYTHING to do with your
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:37 PM
Sep 2018

morality or truthfulness. Christ.

Bayard

(22,083 posts)
148. Boo Fucking Hoo!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:37 PM
Sep 2018

Indignant, righteous, white man, pissed off that he's been called out.

And now he's crying again.

All I want to hear: I will take a polygraph. Please have the FBI investigate.

Goodheart

(5,325 posts)
153. This calendar defense is laughable.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:38 PM
Sep 2018

It doesn't say "I got drunk and tried to rape a girl!"

Imagine that.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
163. God, enough of this shit.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:41 PM
Sep 2018

He’s becoming less sympathetic and likeable by the second, not that he ever was to begin with.

major debacle

(508 posts)
178. I really don't think he knows what he is saying
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:43 PM
Sep 2018

He is not making any sense whatsoever, and this is the best that Donnie can come up with

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
194. Betty Bowers thinks it may be vodka...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:46 PM
Sep 2018

@BettyBowers

Just curious: Is that vodka in those water bottles? 'Cause he's crying like someone slumped on a barstool. #KavanaughHearings

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
190. It's all someone else's fault: yearbook editors, news reporters. Not me!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:45 PM
Sep 2018

And also, we were all trying to say Renate was our friend.

Shit is getting deep.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
173. Typical drunk personality: either mad or maudlin.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:43 PM
Sep 2018

"I like beer". He's mentioned drinking 100 times. Maybe he was too drunk to know what he did? If he was drunk all the time, how can he be sure he didn't do it?

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
176. David Frum sums it all up neatly
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:43 PM
Sep 2018

David Frum
‏Verified account @davidfrum
23m23 minutes ago

Kavanaugh's message - "the Left"; "Borking"; "revenge on behalf of the Clintons"; "goes around comes around" - is that of a man who has already lost his Court seat, preparing for his next career
337 replies . 1,678 retweets 5,792 likes

Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #195)

Response to Solly Mack (Reply #185)

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
191. I can't believe he is saying again he was a virgin
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:45 PM
Sep 2018

that makes his womanizing outward bullshit make him look even more pathetic.

cab67

(2,993 posts)
212. I'm sorry to say it...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:49 PM
Sep 2018

...but I think he just secured his nomination. He appears very emotional - that's going to register well with Congressional Republicans.

(I am NOT saying I believe him. I don't. But given how forceful he's being, Republicans will have the cover they need to push his nomination through.)

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
218. It wouldn't matter if he got up there
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:51 PM
Sep 2018

drinkng a brew and bragging of his conquests or grabbed a woman in the room and attempted to rape her. They'd still vote to confirm him.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
214. I have friends. I definitely have friends.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:50 PM
Sep 2018


I have friends
I definitely have friends
No one can say that
I do not have friends!

I have friends
I definitely have friends
Friends, friends, friendly friends
Time to meet my friends

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
236. Or belatedly asking for FBI investigations into
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:58 PM
Sep 2018

the charges.

The FBI's investigated me twice, but I'm pretty sure they didn't look for attempted rape.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
233. This part about due process is 100% steaming hot BS
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:57 PM
Sep 2018

He had a chance for due process - call in the FBI

that is what any upstanding judge would have insisted on to clear their good name.

But Kavanaugh has opted to bypass the FBI and strong arm the process with the GOP majority

So his claims about due process is bullshit. He's afraid of it like the rest of the GOP

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
246. Btw, LOL, this is the eminent, nationally renowned
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 04:17 PM
Sep 2018

Ms. Mitchell whom Mr. McConnell referred to as the Republican senators "female assistant."




After that came this from another Republican:


They're both speaking the truth. The committee didn't include a woman so they hired a woman.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
237. Can't wait for Sen Maize & Harris & Feinstein to stick a fork in him
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:58 PM
Sep 2018

Have the tv paused & the sound off until they get to the Dems.
Let me know K?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
247. Don't know how much he drinks today, but acting
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 04:30 PM
Sep 2018

like he had no idea what his sensible capacity would be and suggesting police blood alcohol levels would tell came off odd to me.

Who doesn't know how many drinks and when (they feel at least) are safe to drive home after?

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