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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:05 PM Aug 2012

Why Ryan? Here's why

Their "Hail Mary" maps people are thinking this:

Colorado has a LOT of Mormons.. so does Nevada
Wisconsin has a governor who fought off a recall & Ryan's homestate
Ohio's new voting rules and a rerun of 2004 irregularities might be enough
Michigan is one of Mitten's homestates & their governor has done a lot of "voting stuff" there too

Florida & PA can go to Obama if the racism & vindictiveness of the other states can be ginned up in time..

They can let the oldies fearing SS changes, vote for dems, and if they can fudge their way into getting what;s on the map..they "win"

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Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
1. Rolls Royce are done
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:06 PM
Aug 2012

They'll get their usual red state votes, but they won't get any further. All swing states are now in favor of Obama.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
5. Even low information voters are informed enough
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:20 PM
Aug 2012

to exercise their right not to support a candidate who exercises his right not to show his tax returns.


rocktivity

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
10. One Would Hope So - However The Media Debate Will Shift To The Budget And Away From Taxes And Bain
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:53 PM
Aug 2012

eom

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
13. You under estimate the Obama team
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:52 PM
Aug 2012

I suspect they have ways to keep ROMNEY TAX RETURNS on the front burner.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
4. I hope so, but we can never underestimate the power
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:16 PM
Aug 2012

of media ballyhooing "ooh so close", combined with republican election shenanigans..

make it appear close & then steal it in the counting process

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
7. Heh - yeah, that one is a given.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:29 PM
Aug 2012

I still can't even imagine it being "close".

Maybe "home state" worked 20 years ago, but Mitt can't even keep his "home state" straight for the IRS, much less claim ties to one.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
6. Your scenario is not unfathomable. But to me this seems worst case. Which isn't so bad if
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:23 PM
Aug 2012

you think about it. Obama flips one of those close states you have in red. He would still win.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. I think it's simpler than that. I think Rmoney's monied friends want Ryan
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:43 PM
Aug 2012

because he's an American for Prosperity of the 1%

Indy Lurker

(1,125 posts)
11. A matter of math
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:16 PM
Aug 2012

Over the past month Romney has been sliding in the polls. It was to the point where only a bold / high risk VP could save the campaign. Much like the Palin pick the last time around. It's a move of desperation.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
12. Wisconsinmentum.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:49 PM
Aug 2012

Republicans won the "second most important political contest of the year" when the recall of Scott Walker failed. They also have Rinse Prepuce (sp?) of Wisconsin at the RNC. They apparently believe Wisconsin "knows the way forward." I suppose they'd like to follow the Wisconsin playbook all the way to the White House.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
15. I can buy that as a "hail mary" map, but I don't that Ryan brings much to that equation
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:31 AM
Aug 2012

Aside from the outside chance at Wisconsin becoming a bit better, Ryan doesn't figure into those possibilities you mention. I think the odds of Romney winning Florida without Ryan are better than him winning both Wisconsin and Michigan with Ryan.

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