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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 09:59 AM Aug 2012

Joe the Plumber calls to ‘start shooting’ immigrants at the border

At two separate events in recent days, Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher has proposed to “put a damn fence on the border going to Mexico and start shooting.”

Wurzelbacher first made the remarks during a campaign rally for Arizona Republican state Rep. Lori Klein on Friday, according to video published by Prescott eNews.

“For years I’ve said, you know, put a damn fence on the border, going to Mexico and start shooting,” he insisted.

................................

“I’m running for Congress. How many congressmen or people running for Congress have you heard, put a fence up and start shooting? None? Well you heard it here first. Put troops on the border and start shooting, I bet that solves our immigration problem real quick.”

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Joe the Plumber calls to ‘start shooting’ immigrants at the border (Original Post) kpete Aug 2012 OP
Gun nut megaphone. The ultimate shooting range of their dreams. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #1
Dog whistle? DefenseLawyer Aug 2012 #20
Good point. Fixed. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #22
The rhetoric of "Joe the Plumber" is so similar to that of "Joe Walsh".... DCKit Aug 2012 #69
Oh God! Spare us from this man! Pleeeeease!!!! Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #2
so he's advocating murder? warrior1 Aug 2012 #3
he's advocating a massacre, perhaps genocide eShirl Aug 2012 #6
Exactly. He's advocating homegrown terrorism. Period. BlueCaliDem Aug 2012 #50
And worse, if he's calling for firing over the border. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #55
that would be what is commonly referred to as an act of war frylock Aug 2012 #60
That sounds like a career-ending comment. reformist2 Aug 2012 #4
We can only hope JustAnotherGen Aug 2012 #7
Sadly, I think it will bring out more nuts to vote for him. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #23
Unfortunately ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #28
No. Most in his district think he's insane. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #40
My mistake ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #42
There's the problem, the PD only prints crazy political positions anymore. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #43
I think I know the guy! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #44
Sure, except he doesn't have a career to end. Mosby Aug 2012 #41
Someone should tell Joe that the "civilized" way to express the same sentiment redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #5
R#2 & K for, quelle surprise. More like, what took him so song to expose himself further. n/t UTUSN Aug 2012 #8
More stochastic terrorism. ananda Aug 2012 #9
This guy reflection Aug 2012 #10
You know just thinking about the scores of true idiots that have run for sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #11
So Mexicans are the new Jews, Joe ? steve2470 Aug 2012 #12
That quote needs to run with subtitles on Telemundo and Univision OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #13
+1 ! nt steve2470 Aug 2012 #14
I like it ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #32
Yep! OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #38
Just for reference.... She's the idiot who pointed her pink handgun at a reporter n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2012 #52
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #54
most laser sights I have seen... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #63
+1,000 freshwest Aug 2012 #74
This is the link to the news in Spanish DivineBrat Aug 2012 #84
Why stop at the border, Joe? This guy is done. reformist2 Aug 2012 #15
that man is really stupid isn't he? barbtries Aug 2012 #16
Perfectly reasonable. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #17
a long fence, guarded by people with orders to shoot and kill anyone who tries to cross. TheMightyFavog Aug 2012 #18
Go for it skin head - maybe the "illegals" will shoot back. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #19
This inbred teabilly gomer's 15 minutes were up hifiguy Aug 2012 #21
He got the memo ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #33
I think you may have something there, good sir. nt hifiguy Aug 2012 #36
It's an easier payday than launching a plumbing business JHB Aug 2012 #37
+10,000 smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #65
Shouldn't he be arrested for goclark Aug 2012 #24
Oh I gotta hear the law this one violates jberryhill Aug 2012 #76
This ain't a dog whistle, this is a megaphone. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #25
He's too stupid to be a plumber; he must have cheated on the test. lonestarnot Aug 2012 #26
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #35
I knew it. lonestarnot Aug 2012 #48
Wait a sec.... Doc Holliday Aug 2012 #68
In the future ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #85
Well, maybe ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #27
This is now a mainstream Republican position. Scuba Aug 2012 #29
Another character from 2008 that I can't believe the media still gives time to WI_DEM Aug 2012 #30
someone needs to ask McCain to comment Enrique Aug 2012 #31
I say we deport JoeySam the Unlicensed Plumber instead. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #34
Most undeserved celebrity status EVER? YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #39
What a piece of shit!!!! I hope he gets completely destroyed in the election. Initech Aug 2012 #45
n/t ghurley Aug 2012 #46
Arrest that asshole. Hasn't he heard of George Zimmerman? catbyte Aug 2012 #47
This is a republican brain on sulfur fumes, any questions? part man all 86 Aug 2012 #49
just another useful idiot for the t-bagging right magic59 Aug 2012 #51
"...going to Mexico and start shooting." You do that personally, Joe! muntrv Aug 2012 #53
Crawl back under your rock, you asshole. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #56
why does ANY media print a single word about or from this ignorant asshole? spanone Aug 2012 #57
Joe has such a fine command of intricate foreign policy and economic issues... lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #58
"I'll take famous fascists and pathetic wanna-be's for $100, Alex". n/t jtuck004 Aug 2012 #59
Catchy idea- should get him a lot of votes from the sheepies damn it! lunasun Aug 2012 #61
Joe, the Dumb and Plumber. nt tblue37 Aug 2012 #62
Bright guy bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #64
Incitement to violence? Beartracks Aug 2012 #66
No jberryhill Aug 2012 #77
FAIL. Shakespeare was not advocating "kill all the lawyers" as a matter of public policy Hugabear Aug 2012 #87
So what? jberryhill Aug 2012 #88
idle fantasy moment IrishAle Aug 2012 #67
Hey.... Aviation Pro Aug 2012 #70
Do you think ol' Joe has ever loitered? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #71
That's all we need... DissidentVoice Aug 2012 #72
Does this murderous a**hole call himself a Christian? Bette Noir Aug 2012 #73
I guess you can try to shame Christians for what he says. rad51 Aug 2012 #79
Anyone remember the elected GOP official in a helicopter saying they should be shot from the air? freshwest Aug 2012 #75
Joe the Dumber says the damnest things. Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #78
Oh, Jeez. Let the Canadians buy milk and gas at Costco. McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #80
Is that you, Ted? mwb970 Aug 2012 #81
Okay, let's not get unglued over this Wednesdays Aug 2012 #82
"Land of the Free" Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #83
I guess with a name like Wurzelbacher, . . . aggiesal Aug 2012 #86
Like a Festering Pustule of Malignant Ooze Axiomat Aug 2012 #89
Welcome to DU!!! aggiesal Aug 2012 #92
Joe, have you watched the news? bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #90
PATHETIC to resort to using hatred of others to try to gain office. nt Raine Aug 2012 #91
 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
20. Dog whistle?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:16 AM
Aug 2012

That's not a dog whistle at all. A dog whistle in political terms is using a "code word" that has a particular meaning to your base, but that meaning goes unnoticed by everyone else. So rather than saying something racist, a politician talks about "state's rights" and "welfare". Saying we ought to start shooting isn't a dog whistle. That's a megaphone.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
69. The rhetoric of "Joe the Plumber" is so similar to that of "Joe Walsh"....
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:12 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not so sure he's not already serving in Congress.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
2. Oh God! Spare us from this man! Pleeeeease!!!!
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:04 AM
Aug 2012

And all the other gun nuts just like him.

PS Pleeease God don't let him win this election. Pretty please?

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
50. Exactly. He's advocating homegrown terrorism. Period.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:26 PM
Aug 2012

Rightwingers are actually more prone to violence than peace. It's as if they've lost all sense of compassion and they have to go to the extreme just to be able to feel something inside. It's as sad as it's alarming.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
28. Unfortunately ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:53 AM
Aug 2012

from what I remember, a sizeable segment of the district he is running in would agree with his remarks.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
40. No. Most in his district think he's insane.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:12 PM
Aug 2012

Sam Wurzlebacher will get less votes in OH-9 than write-ins for Daffy Duck.

Marcy Kaptur will steamroll that bald-headed fraud in one of the most solidly Democratic districts in this state.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
42. My mistake ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:17 PM
Aug 2012

It's been 20+ years and it's difficult to tell by reading the on-line comment section of the PD.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
43. There's the problem, the PD only prints crazy political positions anymore.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

The nutcases that don't get their LTTE published flood the website in response, thinking that actually works in changing people's opinions.

It's the same cranks, over and over...and many of them aren't even in OH-9 to begin with.

One retired guy who writes constantly doesn't even live in NE OH anymore, he lives in Arizona, but still uses his old address in Bratenahl when he does, and even then it isn't in OH-9.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
5. Someone should tell Joe that the "civilized" way to express the same sentiment
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:11 AM
Aug 2012

is to call for an end to H1B visas.

--------------------------------------

Open borders for all and international solidarity !!

ananda

(28,858 posts)
9. More stochastic terrorism.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:12 AM
Aug 2012

This is really getting endemic, and absurd vigilante
violence always results.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
11. You know just thinking about the scores of true idiots that have run for
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:19 AM
Aug 2012

and been elected to Congress in the last decade makes me sick. I'm old enough to remember when politicians were educated, calm, and understood statesmanship. Today, it seems any crazy can run and be elected. We, as a population, don't seem to mind.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
13. That quote needs to run with subtitles on Telemundo and Univision
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:32 AM
Aug 2012

Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher, a Republican spokesman since 2008 and a candidate for office, told a crowd at an Arizona campaign rally, “For years I’ve said, you know, put a damn fence on the border, going to Mexico and start shooting.”

This is the Republican Party. This is what Romney/Ryan means to you.

Samuel "Joe el plomero" Wurzelbacher, un portavoz republicano desde 2008 y candidato a un cargo, dijo ante una multitud en un mitin de Arizona Campaña, "Durante años he dicho, ya sabes, poner una valla en la frontera maldita, ir a México y empezar a disparar. "

Este es el Partido Republicano. Esto es lo que Romney / Ryan significa para usted.

(at least that's how Google translated my English)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
32. I like it ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:01 PM
Aug 2012

And for Kline's (the woman running in the AZ race) opponent ...

... This is the Republican Party. This is what Romney/Ryan means to you.

... And Candidate Lori Klein's response to Joe's comment ... {Cue: Close up shot of Klein smiling and nodding with Cricket sound-track}


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
54. Yeah ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:11 PM
Aug 2012

and the reporter had the nerve ... nerve ... I tell you to get upset. After all, she didn't have her finger on the trigger!

But not knowing alot about guns, don't you have to squeeze the trigger a little to activate the laser sighting that she was trying to show off?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
63. most laser sights I have seen...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:13 PM
Aug 2012

are activated by the thumb, somewhere on the grip. Either way, you NEVER point a gun at other people.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
16. that man is really stupid isn't he?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:49 AM
Aug 2012

i mean he must be really fucking stupid.

what really gets me is he probably got big applause for those hateful words.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
18. a long fence, guarded by people with orders to shoot and kill anyone who tries to cross.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:59 AM
Aug 2012

Erich Hoenecker would not only approve, but probably laugh at the irony.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. This inbred teabilly gomer's 15 minutes were up
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:17 AM
Aug 2012

four years ago. Someone didn't get him the memo.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. He got the memo ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:03 PM
Aug 2012

he just couldn't read it ... neither could his handlers ... "A mind is a terrible thing to waste on an education."

JHB

(37,160 posts)
37. It's an easier payday than launching a plumbing business
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:24 PM
Aug 2012

He finds clogging other people's heads with his shit much more rewarding than unclogging pipes with theirs.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
35. Actually ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:07 PM
Aug 2012

it came out in the aftermath of the 2008 event, he IS NOT/HAS NEVER BEEN a plumber, but rather a plumber's helper.

Kinda like me watching my dad work on the car, handing him the tools when he asks for them (and properly describing them) and sweeping up when he's through ... and calling myself "1StrongBlackMan the Mechanic."

Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
68. Wait a sec....
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:21 PM
Aug 2012

"...he IS NOT/HAS NEVER BEEN a plumber, but rather a plumber's helper."

A "plumber's helper"? That would make him....

(ruffles & flourishes)

Joe The Plunger.



I know, I know....I really crack myself up.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
85. In the future ...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:01 PM
Aug 2012

Please title your post:

Wait a sec (put your coffee down) ...


That'll save me from having to clean off my key-board and monitor.

Thanking you in advance.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. Well, maybe ...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:51 AM
Aug 2012
“I’m running for Congress. How many congressmen or people running for Congress have you heard, put a fence up and start shooting? None? Well you heard it here first. Put troops on the border and start shooting, I bet that solves our immigration problem real quick.”


But the immigration problem would pale in comparison to the diplomatic problem.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
31. someone needs to ask McCain to comment
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:00 PM
Aug 2012

McCain held this guy up, what does the Senator from Arizona think of these comments?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
34. I say we deport JoeySam the Unlicensed Plumber instead.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:06 PM
Aug 2012

Off to some desert island where we don't have to hear his dribble and fake "common man" schtick any longer.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
47. Arrest that asshole. Hasn't he heard of George Zimmerman?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:39 PM
Aug 2012

Yeah, shooting first and asking questions later is such a smart way to do things.

Moron.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
53. "...going to Mexico and start shooting." You do that personally, Joe!
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:09 PM
Aug 2012

See if the Mexicans don't shoot back!

spanone

(135,830 posts)
57. why does ANY media print a single word about or from this ignorant asshole?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:23 PM
Aug 2012

it says about all one needs to know about our media.
 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
58. Joe has such a fine command of intricate foreign policy and economic issues...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:37 PM
Aug 2012

The Tea Party and Republicans can indeed be proud of him.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
61. Catchy idea- should get him a lot of votes from the sheepies damn it!
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:24 PM
Aug 2012

Palin wanna be with more shock value

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
77. No
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:24 AM
Aug 2012

Let me get this straight.

You believe he was standing there, at the border, with a bunch of armed people instructing them to shoot right then and there?

Oh I can't WAIT until the next clever person quotes Shakespeare's "The first thing we do, kill all the lawyers" to me. I'll have him taken away in chains.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
87. FAIL. Shakespeare was not advocating "kill all the lawyers" as a matter of public policy
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

Whereas Joe the Plumber IS advocating killing immigrants as a matter of public policy.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
88. So what?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

Incitement is a specific criminal charge that doesn't hinge on whether someone is proposing "public policy".

How about you respond to the first paragraph and explain how the elements of ANY crime are met before you advocate locking people up for speech as a matter of public policy.

IrishAle

(62 posts)
67. idle fantasy moment
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:20 PM
Aug 2012

"put a damn fence on the border going to Mexico and start shooting"

Move a bit closer to the fence there Joe.. little closer.. thats good.

Aviation Pro

(12,164 posts)
70. Hey....
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:34 AM
Aug 2012

...Joe the Fucking Knucklehead, Jesse said your 'prescription' is ready and you can pick it up at Tucker's. Oh, Mike is looking for you and he's pissed. Pay the fuck up, assclown.

Sincerely,

Walt

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
71. Do you think ol' Joe has ever loitered?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:07 AM
Aug 2012

Maybe he should be shot for that. Pull a U-turn? Firing squad! Drop the wrapper to his gum? bullet to the face! Played music loud after 10 in a residential neighborhood? BAM! Right in the back of the head.

I mean if we're going to start murdering people for civil misdemeanors, certainly we should start with our own!

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
72. That's all we need...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:25 AM
Aug 2012

...is more bullets flying, for any reason, in this country.

My dad was stationed in West Germany when the Soviets sealed off the East. There were still people who found a way through the Iron Curtain.

I don't care if you build a 500 foot wall, someone will build a 501 foot ladder.

What he's advocating for the military to do is illegal under the Posse Comitatus Act and would amount to something that the SS would have done.

Hasn't there been enough bloodshed?

Bette Noir

(3,581 posts)
73. Does this murderous a**hole call himself a Christian?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:00 AM
Aug 2012

Can we shame other "Christians" into disavowing him?

rad51

(89 posts)
79. I guess you can try to shame Christians for what he says.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:15 AM
Aug 2012

Unless the book of Joe the Plumber was recently added to the Bible I'd say this racist POS speaks for himself and the idiots that agree with his garbage.

The Ohio Repub party is who should be shamed, ridiculed, and asked to disavow him.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
75. Anyone remember the elected GOP official in a helicopter saying they should be shot from the air?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:19 AM
Aug 2012

I thought it was a woman and some men and it was on cable news. That GOP was already in office and laughing at the idea. Yes, this is normal for Republicans.

And why are Repuke candidates running to other states to push each other?

We've seen Le Page, Scott and Walker traveling around to high five each other while their people are in need. Isn't that a sign to their future constituents they don't care enough to run a campaign at home?

Or are they taking a break from governing to get the latest orders from the Koch family?

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
78. Joe the Dumber says the damnest things.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:31 AM
Aug 2012

I'm fairly certain he appeals to the 'nuke til they glow' audience in Arizona.

"Don't try to understand em, just rope, ride, and brand them."

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
80. Oh, Jeez. Let the Canadians buy milk and gas at Costco.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:52 AM
Aug 2012

There's nothing wrong with our borders or our immigrants.

Wednesdays

(17,362 posts)
82. Okay, let's not get unglued over this
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:16 AM
Aug 2012

After all, when they install that fence with the machine–gun armed sentries, they'll at least have big signs with the clear warning, "Achtung! Eintritt Verboten!"

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
83. "Land of the Free"
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:00 AM
Aug 2012

Joe's vision for America is to make the border look like a Nazi Concentration Camp.

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Complete with machine guns like at Gitmo:

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aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
86. I guess with a name like Wurzelbacher, . . .
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:15 PM
Aug 2012

he and his family just organically sprouted
out the soil in Ohio. What an idiot!

bucolic_frolic

(43,147 posts)
90. Joe, have you watched the news?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:25 PM
Aug 2012

They try that remedy periodically, in colleges and universities,
in movie theaters, at a rally even. How did that work out, Joe?

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