They brought a BONE SAW. Case closed.

[Grasswire2]

Intent.

Case closed.

All else is stupid muck.

You might bring a knife to a fist fight. You might bring a gun to a knife fight.

But you would never bring a BONE SAW to a fist fight.

[calimary]

1. No kidding.

Premeditated.

[Pachamama]

58. Absolutely

In a US Court, European Court, heck any actual credible court, bringing a bone saw would be PREMEDITATED....

PS: And a coroner for good measure too...

[tblue37]

80. One with advice for how to use music the way he normally does on jobs like

this one.

[Beakybird]

2. House of Sawed

[Brother Buzz]

6. 2/3's of a pun - PU- yet DUzy worthy

[saidsimplesimon]

27. A better pun than my often meager attempts.

[BeckyDem]

62. +1

[Hassler]

7. +100000

[libdem4life]

11. Excellent.

[ashling]

13. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Grasswire2]

35. lolol

excellent!

[IronLionZion]

39. OMG!

[populistdriven]

54. 1 more

[Marthe48]

41. I won't ever forget this

and will probably borrow it. I'm hoping they go directly to hell.

[Pachamama]

59. Crown Prince MBS aka "Mohammed bin Sawing"

Or also known as Mohammed Bone Sawing

of the House of Sawed....

Amazing what you learn in a name....and to think the House of Saud (pronounced SAW-ED) was right there in front of our eyes all the time....

What is the old saying - When a person tells you who they are, believe them?

[Rene]

70. Doesn't it seem like the Dr has done this before...says play music

to the others. Is this msbs chief tortuer????

[malaise]

82. Most Excellent

[MontanaMama]

3. It really is that simple. nt.

[Wounded Bear]

4. A bone saw, I never go anywhere without mine...

[Cha]

5. And, we only know they brought bonesaws

because the Turkish embassy was bugged, right?.. and the Saudis weren't smart enough to know that.

[magicarpet]

20. The Turks likely saw the bone saw at the airport customs gate...

... when the Saudi jets landed with the fifteen assassins. The Turks spotted the saw and said what is this ? The Saudi's likely said - Oh this guy is a forensic autopsy specialist doctor and he carries his equipment with him to most locations. So it inadvertently ended up here on his visit here to see the Saudi ambassador.

[Cha]

24. Right.. didn't think of that. I should have said

the Saudi Consulate was bugged by Turkey and the Saudis weren't smart enough to debug it.

Jamaal Khashoggi

[underpants]

29. The consulate could have bought one

Just saying.

[Ilsa]

8. Yeah, the last time someone died in an accident

in town, the first thing everyone did was cut him up. Why bother calling an ambulance for someone who got hurt?

[imanamerican63]

9. I wonder what other 18 participants looked liked afterwards?

[Mendocino]

10. Better call Saw

[libdem4life]

12. How can you legally pronounce someone dead without a body?

I'm talking Western rules ... the question should be ... Where Is The Body?

[Az_lefty]

18. That's my question, where's the body?

[underpants]

30. Not a lawyer but I think you can

Plane crashes
Missing persons
Etc

[Haggis for Breakfast]

43. Ever heard of Jimmy Hoffa ????

[lutherj]

14. And it happened in their CONSULATE. You know, a support facility to the embassy, full of

security cameras and listening devices and professional staff who must have heard the screaming. Unless, of course, they have a special room dedicated to this sort of thing. If you accidentally dismember a person alive with a bone saw wouldn’t someone object? At the very least to the noise?

Rogue elements don’t operate in a consulate. Only sanctioned assassins.

[2naSalit]

17. +1

[PaulX2]

15. Said The Same Thing - You Don't Take A Bone Saw To A Kidnapping

You take duct tape and zip ties. Maybe a bag.

Just sayyin.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211288453

[ms liberty]

16. I just said this to my husband. n/t

[Achilleaze]

19. the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief & Spawn-in-law

are complicit

[torius]

21. They were throwing his severed fist

pieces at each other, yelling “fist fight.”

[Squinch]

74. You should self delete this. It's disgusting.

[ProudLib72]

22. 15 security personnel and a bone saw

You don't send 15 thugs with a bone saw to discuss matters over a cup of tea.

[Pachamama]

61. To have a discussion with a 60 year old man alone?

This was a brutal crown prince sanctioned torture and assassination.....

And now sanctioned by Trump and his cabal....

Obama never would have allowed this....he would have pulled all diplomats out of Saudi Arabia and called for an end to any Arms sales to them and a full investigation cooperating with the Turks and FBI Forensic teams to find out how and where a US Resident and Journalist had been tortured and killed overseas by a Nation that should not be a member of nations that we ally with.

The more I think about what has happened, the sicker I get to my stomach and fearful about what Trump is capable of....

[July]

75. There is an idea . . . WWOD --

What Would Obama Do?

Given Chump's irrational obsession with President Obama, perhaps a meme contrasting Chump's actions with answers to "What Would Obama Do?" would get right on Chump's last nerve. Which would be a good thing, because he would say or do something even more idiotic than what he is already doing.

Now that I think about it, though, Pete Souza is doing a great job of it. If only his "shade" became more well-known.

[Calista241]

23. How many people worked at this Embassy?

I can imagine a large self-contained community like an embassy, may have a surgical suite if they didn't trust the home country's emergency services.

In any case, there are so many more anonymous ways to kill someone. Why not just shoot the guy with a sniper? I'm sure shootings and murders aren't totally uncommon, and this would probably be treated as a minor scandal getting some local coverage in Turkey. The Washington Post would bitch and complain, but ultimately nothing would happen, and nobody would be indicated. Why do governments have to come up with the most extravagant ways to kill people, and they're so incompetent at executing these attacks?

People might point fingers at the Saudi's, and / or President Trump, but since this took place in Turkey, the general public here wouldn't care.

[Grasswire2]

38. it seems they wanted the world to know what happened.

....as a warning to journalists everywhere.

They certainly didn't try to hide anything.

[XRubicon]

25. They did.

[leanforward]

26. I'm with all of the above.

Mr K was fighting for his life. They NEVER intended to let him leave alive.

[exboyfil]

28. Did someone say Bonesaw

[C_U_L8R]

31. And blaming the victim. Despicable.

This bullshit isn't convincing anyone. Time to turn up the heat.

[XRubicon]

32. Bone saw.

[Enoki33]

33. The horrendous cruelty involved has no place in a civilized

society, despite what the liar in chief would have the world believe. We all know the Saudi royalty is guilty of murder, and that the worst they will suffer is a slap on the wrist. Dotard and Kushner have taken moral corruption to a whole network level.

[Marthe48]

40. After 9-11

I don't think they even got a slap on the wrist. They got a fast jet out of the country. And a kiss from bush.

[Fritz Walter]

69. Honest to dog, no shit!

15 out of 19 hijackers were from that country.

And yet -- aside from Air Force One -- theirs was the only flight allowed in our airspace.

These are not allies.

[Marthe48]

73. No, they aren't

but now, they have another person ready to aid and abet them.

[eggplant]

34. Give them a chance. They're still trying to piece together what happened.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

44. Groannnnnnnnnn.

[hostalover]

64. Are you trying to be funny? Epic fail!

[Grasswire2]

37. google search bone saw

[link:https://www.google.com/search?q=bone+saw&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie2oDM8pPeAhW7CTQIHT4lCaMQ_AUIDigB|

[A HERETIC I AM]

42. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK THIS IS FUNNY.....

and please understand, I love black and dark humor as well as anyone, I ask that you ponder this;

It was reported they cut his fingers off.

It was reported that they cut lmbs off, that they DISMEMBERED HIM WHILE HE WAS ALIVE.


Just think about that for a second. Or two. Take ten minutes to contemplate what this man very likely went though AT THE HANDS OF A MEDICALLY TRAINED PROFESSIONAL. The fucking asshole apparently put on headphones so he could listen to music instead of his victims screams.

The "doctor" started with his fingers.

He FUCKING CUT OFF HIS FINGERS WITH A GOD DAMNED SAW.

Wide awake. No anesthesia. He likely hadn't been beaten to the edge of unconsciousness, he was fully aware and capable of feeling a saw cut his fingers off.

Then the "Doc" apparently moved up. Cut off his arm. Perhaps at the elbow first, then at the shoulder, using his medical knowledge to make sure the man didn't bleed to death too quickly. A report indicated he had his legs cut off.

So, lets just, for a single minute, contemplate the last 7 to ten minutes of Jamal Khashoggi's life.

He died in unbelievable and unspeakable pain and agony, his extremities cut away WITH A FUCKING SAW and died likely by bleeding to death, slowly, over the course of minutes.


Just think about that.

The people that did that to him were agents of a government the United States considers an ally.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

45. And this administration will do NOTHING about it.

They will sit back, allow the Saudis to conduct their own investigation, and then do fuck all when the Saudis conclude that Kashoggi died of a heart attack.

I can just imagine the sophomoric humour trump engaged in when he heard about this.

To me, this is so horrifying that - IMO - trump's government should be held complicit in this man's savage torture and barbaric slaughter. The level of depravity that it takes to remain complacent and ignore this debauchery is criminal.

As long as trump and the republicans are in power, I believe this country has lost its soul.

[A HERETIC I AM]

46. "As long as trump and the republicans are in power, I believe this country has lost its soul."

We face the very real possibility of never gaining it back.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

47. The ONLY thing that consoles me, Heretic,

is that the pendulum ALWAYS swings back.

The only question is when and (god forbid) what worse than this will it take ?

[A HERETIC I AM]

49. Agreed.

The reason it swung so hard in the direction it did is because the majority of Americans had the temerity to elect a Black Man as president.

TWICE!

The dopey, "I'm afraid of everything" White douchebag segment of the electorate just couldn't stomach that.

What needs to happen is that the pendulum swings so hard the other way next time that it gets buried in the ceiling.

[pansypoo53219]

55. EXCEPT the gnewz media has been pushing the pendulum back for years.

still sucking on reagan's dead balls. STILL codling the baby moron in the white house.

[eggplant]

53. Everything you said is true.

It's not called gallows humor for no reason. Sometimes, it's the only way to talk about it at all.

We have people in this country working for our government that have done equally unspeakable things. It's not just our allies. There was actually a good chance that this travesty would have never seen the light of day. How many others have suffered similar fates? How have we arrived at this place, where we aren't rioting in the streets around the globe over this?

Remember Trump suggesting someone should kill Hillary? When the election was stolen? Charlottesville? Thousands dying in Puerto Rico? Locking kids in cages? Remember Dr. Ford? That was only, what, three weeks ago? Seems almost quaint now.

What will next week's insanity be that makes us forget about this?

[triron]

48. Trump and Jared were in on this murder from the get go. eos

[Blue Owl]

50. This is a new level of depravity

Even for Trump(s), to ignore and shrug off this atrocity is deeply telling of how mentally ill he/they are...

[Grasswire2]

51. Maybe he sees it as cautionary --- don't mess with Saudis.

Maybe Jared will never be able to go to visit there again because .....look what can happen if they want to silence you!

Maybe it's a warning from the Saudis to the Trumps. Play ball, or this could happen to you!

[triron]

67. Outside possibility but this hypothesis doesn't 'feel' right to me,

knowing the depravity of Trump and all the shit surrounding this administration.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

52. The question is: What music do you listen to while dismembering a human being?

Especially if they're still alive? God this whole thing is ghoulish. I hope it's not so stomach-turning that people will be glad for some other Trump scandal to come along and blow this one out of the news. That's what the Saudis and Trump (aided by his Republican sycophants and Fox News) are hoping for.

[Socal31]

56. Fake news.

If this thread title was true, how did anyone see it?

[pdsimdars]

57. All media needs to call BS on the latest excuse.

Any media that doesn't come right out and shut this nonsense down is "owned" media. They need to come out forcefully and say this is unacceptable and say something has to be done. My bet is that you'll see most media, write some article about it and NEVER ONCE mention the bone saw or coroner. Means they are opening the door to acceptance.

I looked through a number of the sites I look at for their take on the news and the ONLY ONE that called BS on this Saudi fairytale was Common Dreams. But EVERY site and media needs to say this is unacceptable. You don't fly a coroner with his bone saw for an interview with a dissident. Why does the media accept the discussion?

[dalton99a]

60. It is a distinctive tool

[LiberalArkie]

71. I would have figured the doc would have brought the autopsy saw

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stryker-Autopsy-Saw-Model-810-Bone-Cast-Cutter-Medical-Necropsy-Tool/372474506852?hash=item56b935ee64:g:OSwAAOSwcT5bvipK:rk:20:pf:0

[dalton99a]

78. An autopsy bone saw can't cut through soft tissues

Of course, it's possible that they used butcher knives, then the Stryker

[Grasswire2]

79. oh there are many different styles on google search. nt

[wiggs]

63. The bone saw story will change, along with other Turkish details, as soon as Turkey gets what

it wants from the US and SA. Turkey holds the cards here...doubtful they will waste the opportunity in favor of truth and justice.

This is one of the many unfortunate consequences having a criminal, narcissist, con man in the most powerful office in the world.

[luvallpeeps]

65. reminds me of the astronaut that wore a diaper

Remember the astronaut love triangle? She drove cross country wearing a diaper. She had a map, a steel mallet, a buck knife, rope and a bb gun. Claimed she just wanted to talk to her? Totally legit. I always wear a diaper and carry a buck knife when I wanna "talk" to someone. Evidently, they think we're idiots.

[dalton99a]

72. Yep, Lisa Nowak.

https://people.com/crime/astronaut-love-triangle-lisa-nowak-life-10-years-later/

[Mr.Bill]

66. I doubt they brought a bone saw.

I'm sure it's a standard piece of equipment regularly kept at any Saudi Embassy.

[USALiberal]

68. True!!! nt

[Nitram]

76. Um, did anybody actually see a bone saw? Has one been put into evidence? Isn't the notion

that a bone saw was present suggested by the audio that Turkey has yet to release? If the audio is authentic, the presence of a bone is the least of their worries.

[lapfog_1]

77. you don't even bring a bone saw to a gun fight

you only bring it to an execution where you expect to cut up the body to hide the execution.

[whistler162]

81. I always carry a bone saw

to meetings. It helps cut through the BS!