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Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:44 PM Aug 2012

Leader of anti-Semitic party in Hungary discovers he is Jewish

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1241752--leader-of-anti-semitic-party-in-hungary-discovers-he-is-jewish

BUDAPEST, HUNGARY—As a rising star in Hungary’s far-right Jobbik Party, Csanad Szegedi was notorious for his incendiary comments on Jews: He accused them of “buying up” the country, railed about the “Jewishness” of the political elite and claimed Jews were desecrating national symbols.

Then came a revelation that knocked him off his perch as ultra-nationalist standard-bearer: Szegedi himself is a Jew.

Following weeks of Internet rumours, Szegedi acknowledged in June that his grandparents on his mother’s side were Jews — making him one too under Jewish law, even though he doesn’t practice the faith. His grandmother was an Auschwitz survivor and his grandfather a veteran of forced labour camps.
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Leader of anti-Semitic party in Hungary discovers he is Jewish (Original Post) Courtesy Flush Aug 2012 OP
"Did I say 'Jewish'? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #1
That means he has a moral obligation to take himself out of the gene pool Major Nikon Aug 2012 #2
From the article it looks like he's actually trying to come to terms with it. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #11
Sounds more like he's coming to terms with being outed Major Nikon Aug 2012 #18
I'm going by what the rabbi said after talking to him rather than his own words Posteritatis Aug 2012 #19
Certainly there are all sorts of possibilities Major Nikon Aug 2012 #20
That's assuming Jobbik didn't make that one up, which is itself a possibility Posteritatis Aug 2012 #21
Mozel-Tov! leveymg Aug 2012 #3
rofl oops loli phabay Aug 2012 #4
Oops. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #5
Downfall parody time n/t Enrique Aug 2012 #6
Schlimazel IDemo Aug 2012 #7
Ouch! LeftofObama Aug 2012 #8
Chappell show time! 4_TN_TITANS Aug 2012 #9
I bet this really screws the brackets in this year's Racial Draft. msanthrope Aug 2012 #12
"In a surprise move, the Asians have taken the entire Wu Tang Clan!" mikeytherat Aug 2012 #16
LOL. mmonk Aug 2012 #10
Karma is a funny thing. hifiguy Aug 2012 #13
In related news, Allen West just found out he was black. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #14
Was this idiot also a Holocaust denier....or just simply a hater? n/t Sheepshank Aug 2012 #15
Karma!!! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #17

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
1. "Did I say 'Jewish'?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:46 PM
Aug 2012

"I meant people named 'Louis'. Yeah, that's totally what I meant to say. Those Louis people are ruining it for everyone!"

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
11. From the article it looks like he's actually trying to come to terms with it.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:34 PM
Aug 2012

That seems to happen a lot in those sorts of cases, where someone finds something like that out and are shocked enough that they start reevaluating a lot of things.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
18. Sounds more like he's coming to terms with being outed
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

How can you NOT know that one of your grandparents survived Auschwitz? I also didn't see anything in the article where he has apologized for his actions or shown the least bit of remorse, but maybe he has.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
19. I'm going by what the rabbi said after talking to him rather than his own words
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:57 PM
Aug 2012

And it's pretty easy not to know that sort of thing, especially if the grandparents didn't live long past that, or didn't want to talk about it, or you simply never knew them for one reason or another.

He could just be coming to terms with being outed or he could be sincere about it - I've seen the latter a few times. Whichever it is, though, he's got a pretty ugly road he'll have to travel to get past what has been for his public life.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
20. Certainly there are all sorts of possibilities
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:10 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not going to pretend to know what's going on in this guy's mind, but his actions speak volumes. When someone confronted him with his secret, did he seek to redeem himself at that point? No, he offered the guy a job for his silence. That tells me he had a strong desire to continue to live a lie. In other words, his hate was more important to him than who he really is.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
21. That's assuming Jobbik didn't make that one up, which is itself a possibility
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:41 PM
Aug 2012

It is an outright fascist party however much people sugarcoat it; they got in the news a few months ago over testing their members genetically to make sure there wasn't any Jewish or Roma ancestry in their membership, that sort of thing. If they find out someone's got the wrong stuff in their bloodline they've always gone even more nuts than usual in response.

I can believe that a member of that party would try to bribe someone into keeping silent about that; I could also believe that if the party found out a member had Jewish ancestry they would be willing to fake something like that to kick out the 'offending' member, as even in the current climate they can't quite come right out and say "we kicked him out for having a Jewish ancestor."

We'll see what comes out in the end of course. Jobbik is certainly evil and membership in it passes that on to its members. Is this guy actually going to face that now? I just don't know, though I certainly hope he does.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
9. Chappell show time!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:24 PM
Aug 2012

I love the one where he is a blind, black-hating KKK leader - who is black but doesn't know it.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. I bet this really screws the brackets in this year's Racial Draft.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:42 PM
Aug 2012

To the JURY--this is a famous Chapelle show skit....

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