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CBS has Cruz up 10 on latest poll (Original Post) Legends303 Oct 2018 OP
Not a surprise nycbos Oct 2018 #1
Beto isnt giving up before election day Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #4
Of course we shouldn't give up. nycbos Oct 2018 #6
Polls showed heitkamp losing by an average of 6 points in 2012 Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #10
I agree. nycbos Oct 2018 #14
NOT a CBS poll! getagrip_already Oct 2018 #12
Thank you for the extra info!! :-) Good to know!! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #24
Thanks I was just going to post the same. book_worm Oct 2018 #34
Aren't most local CBS stations owned by Sinclair now? marlakay Oct 2018 #42
"Texas is probably two or three cycles away from being competitive." The_Counsel Oct 2018 #13
that's possible... but getagrip_already Oct 2018 #25
Great points... hurl Oct 2018 #27
As the saying goes Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #2
Move the money to other winnable races. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #3
agree on first two qazplm135 Oct 2018 #9
Recent polling has Bredesen anywhere from 1 up to 4 down. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #17
NY 27th Congressional District. pangaia Oct 2018 #11
And we were told Doug Jones was a lost cause in the AL special election LanternWaste Oct 2018 #15
Nobody actually knows what will happen Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #16
How does "moving the money work" in your eyes? BannonsLiver Oct 2018 #26
No. Sorry. I meant the DSCC and guys like Steyer. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #28
What money? blogslut Oct 2018 #36
jesus, that is fucking insanity, cultivated by big money over decades. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #5
That's "Dixie Strategies" and a local CBS affiliate. yesterday with Quinpac, within 5 Ellipsis Oct 2018 #7
On the other hand, if you were Mexican American, would you pick up the phone Baitball Blogger Oct 2018 #8
There are plenty of Mexican American Republicans...lots of them LeftInTX Oct 2018 #37
I am going for the fools gold. I am holding out that a lot of those folks polled will be voting for allgood33 Oct 2018 #18
I think there are a lot of newly registered voters who are not being polled Beaverhausen Oct 2018 #19
Others are WAY closer. This one is worth pulling out all the stops for. DFW Oct 2018 #20
OTHER REPLIES HERE ARE SHOWING THIS IS A BAD VERY REPUBLICAN POLL. FORGET ABOUT IT!! LBM20 Oct 2018 #21
Already forgotten. DFW Oct 2018 #22
+1. Early voting is still going on dalton99a Oct 2018 #38
Hillary lost in Texas 52-43 Renew Deal Oct 2018 #23
Texas just disappoints. It's not just that they may not elect Beto dem4decades Oct 2018 #29
Texas does have its own "special" textbooks... Sparkly Oct 2018 #30
So just give up? vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #31
Yeah, the polls had HRC winning in a walk too. TomSlick Oct 2018 #32
I hope every straight ticket voter double checks the ballot before they register the vote. nt Snotcicles Oct 2018 #33
noooooooo Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #35
We'll see. blogslut Oct 2018 #39
False headline in OP Kaleva Oct 2018 #40
The only poll that counts will be taken Nov.6th! Be there!!! nt Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #41

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
1. Not a surprise
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:35 PM
Oct 2018

Republican voters are coming home to Cruz even if they don't like him. Texas is probably two or three cycles away from being competitive.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
4. Beto isnt giving up before election day
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:37 PM
Oct 2018

Neither should we. Polls mean little in situations like these.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
10. Polls showed heitkamp losing by an average of 6 points in 2012
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:43 PM
Oct 2018

On election day. Beto is right now losing by 7 in averages ( this poll included). Heitkamp won in 2012. So could Beto. Polls dont matter close to the extent that votes will.

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
14. I agree.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:50 PM
Oct 2018

Fight to the end. I donated to Heitkamp after she voted no.

I would love it be wrong. The idea of beating Cruz is wonderful.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
12. NOT a CBS poll!
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:46 PM
Oct 2018

This isn't the A rated CBS/NY times pollster. It is a local cbs affiliate (CBS11) working with dixie strategies poll. Dixie strategies is a banned pollster by 538 because there polls are so poor and tilted.

Ignore it.

marlakay

(13,283 posts)
42. Aren't most local CBS stations owned by Sinclair now?
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 02:43 AM
Oct 2018

Mine is and they are sneaking more and more right wing stuff in local news.

The_Counsel

(1,757 posts)
13. "Texas is probably two or three cycles away from being competitive."
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:49 PM
Oct 2018

I keep hearing that every cycle, though.

I guess that's the frustrating part....

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
25. that's possible... but
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 08:11 PM
Oct 2018

I'm from MA. a DEEP blue state to say the least. But we lost a senate seat, Kennedy's senate seatt, to Scot Brown.

Upsets can happen.

You just need an upstart challenger and a weak candidate, and an off cycle.

Maybe TX isn't ready to be blue, but don't rule out the upstart's chances in THIS cycle.

There are a lot of reasons the poll's could be missing a lot of voters this cycle in tx. Roll with it. Personally, I'm enjoying watching cruz sweat and squirm.

hurl

(1,052 posts)
27. Great points...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 08:16 PM
Oct 2018

If nothing else, we made the Republicans spend a LOT more than they expected to have to. Win or lose, our hope is that we diverted GOP money from other races of national importance enough to have an impact elsewhere.

Funtatlaguy

(11,878 posts)
3. Move the money to other winnable races.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:36 PM
Oct 2018

As much as we all love Beto, I’m afraid it’s a lost cause.
Arizona, Nevada, and Tennessee are all winnable flips from red to blue.
If we take those three and only lose one current seat, probably ND, we win the Senate.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
9. agree on first two
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

suspect TN is as much fool's gold as TX.

I mean we gotta try because what's the alternative, but the map simply is too red this cycle to expect the miracle we are all hoping for. If it comes great, and we gotta vote anyways because you gotta play the game...but the odds aren't great.

Funtatlaguy

(11,878 posts)
17. Recent polling has Bredesen anywhere from 1 up to 4 down.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:53 PM
Oct 2018

He is surging while Beto is fading.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. NY 27th Congressional District.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:45 PM
Oct 2018

Nate McMurray just went past Collins in one poll...



maybe Beto (and others AND the DNC) can send him some much needed $ FAST !!!!!!!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. And we were told Doug Jones was a lost cause in the AL special election
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:50 PM
Oct 2018

And we were told Doug Jones was a lost cause in the AL special election and anyone who believed he would win was simply "delusional..."

Hence, I've learned not to take the prophets on DU with any more seriousness than I'd give to a televangelist.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
16. Nobody actually knows what will happen
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:52 PM
Oct 2018

Which is why it is so important to knock, call, donate and vote regardless of what we think the result of a race might be.

BannonsLiver

(20,601 posts)
26. How does "moving the money work" in your eyes?
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 08:16 PM
Oct 2018

Because O’Rourke has raised gobs of money on his own and hasn’t needed a lot of help from the party. Sounds like you’re advocating his campaign giving money they worked hard to raise to candidates in other states which is of course both ludicrous highly and unlikely.

blogslut

(39,167 posts)
36. What money?
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:27 AM
Oct 2018

Beto's money? AFAIK, Congressman O'Rourke raised his funds from individuals and is not taking money from the party. I could be wrong.

Baitball Blogger

(52,354 posts)
8. On the other hand, if you were Mexican American, would you pick up the phone
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

and answer a pollster?

LeftInTX

(34,310 posts)
37. There are plenty of Mexican American Republicans...lots of them
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:38 AM
Oct 2018

I live in a neighborhood full of them....kinda like Cubans in Miami.

Oh and there are some stupid people who voting for Cruz cuz of his name.

I'm married to a Mexican American and my kids are Mexican American and my son's are married to Mexican Americans.
Heck, we are annoying pollster people ourselves.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
18. I am going for the fools gold. I am holding out that a lot of those folks polled will be voting for
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 04:55 PM
Oct 2018

Beto and just don't want to be on film saying so or they are just backlashing against pollsters. Al lot of those registered GOP will not be voting GOP. Not much to really like about Cruz.

Beaverhausen

(24,699 posts)
19. I think there are a lot of newly registered voters who are not being polled
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:01 PM
Oct 2018

at least that's what I'm hoping.

DFW

(60,190 posts)
20. Others are WAY closer. This one is worth pulling out all the stops for.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:05 PM
Oct 2018

I have given Beto four figures and sent in my itemized absentee ballot weeks ago.

Of course, if it were just Dallas, we would have put Cruz-you-lose to snooze long ago.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
21. OTHER REPLIES HERE ARE SHOWING THIS IS A BAD VERY REPUBLICAN POLL. FORGET ABOUT IT!!
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:13 PM
Oct 2018

DFW

(60,190 posts)
22. Already forgotten.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

Not counting Beto out period. Cruz disgusts wherever he goes. Beto wins people over wherever he goes.

We may be majority Republican (for now, and on paper), but Beto is straight and personable, as well as in the know about the issues. Cruz is just one more tired Republican spouting their tired lines.

We do not buy your phony ruse.
We do not want you, Cruz-you-lose.

dalton99a

(94,166 posts)
38. +1. Early voting is still going on
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:41 AM
Oct 2018

and the enthusiasm among younger people is huge. Younger people also don't do polls - because they don't like to accept spam calls

dem4decades

(14,062 posts)
29. Texas just disappoints. It's not just that they may not elect Beto
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 08:21 PM
Oct 2018

But they may elect the despicable Ted Cruz.

Again

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
33. I hope every straight ticket voter double checks the ballot before they register the vote. nt
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 11:52 PM
Oct 2018

blogslut

(39,167 posts)
39. We'll see.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 01:01 AM
Oct 2018

I've had my heart broken before. However, he could win anyway. It's not just about him getting national attention or raising record amounts of money without PACs. This guy has been to every corner and cranny of Texas. The big cities are blue, that's just a fact. It's the smaller towns and rural areas that kill us. If he can pull enough votes out of these spread-out districts he could win. Ted Cruz knows this and is spending more money on ads in my area than I've ever seen for a US senate race.

You want to know why voter turnout in Texas is so bad? Because, for decades, it's always been a done deal. Republicans win. The Texas Democratic party, as an organization, barely existed when I joined DU in 2004. In those years I've seen it wake up, crawl, walk, stumble and fall, get back up again, walk, gain momentum and now, we're about to run.

Texas is a big old giant. Electing one Democratic senator doesn't make us automatically blue. We're probably going get second terms from Abbott and Patrick.

If Beto wins it won't have been a miracle. They'll call it that but they'll be wrong. Robert Fitzgerald O'Rourke did the work. Thousands of good citizens are out there block-walking, phone banking and texting for him, every day.

Things may not go our way but then again, they could.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
40. False headline in OP
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 01:34 AM
Oct 2018

This is NOT a CBS poll. It's a poll done by Dixie Strategies for a CBS affiliate.

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