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Wait a minnit!1 "Ted"Carnival CRUZ was born in (our friend) CANADA - not even "birthright"!1 (Original Post) UTUSN Oct 2018 OP
How did he run for president? I have never understood this. dewsgirl Oct 2018 #1
His mother was a U.S. citizen, so he is Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #2
Yip, McCAIN was born in Panama of obviously U.S. parents/military but UTUSN Oct 2018 #5
Exactly! That is the perfect example! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #7
That was because the dad was in the military and she was probably born on a military base MiniMe Oct 2018 #9
Uh, "the dad" parents McCAIN both U.S. citizens.Deceased McCAINwas born in Panama US Military base UTUSN Oct 2018 #14
From Wiki, yes to "military base" but irrelevant. Both parents were U.S.citizens, &it just takes ONE UTUSN Oct 2018 #17
My understanding is that his mother was not a U.S. citizen at time of his birth. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #12
Uh, from Wiki, "Eleanor Wilson was born in Wilmington, Delaware" TOTAL U.S. citizen UTUSN Oct 2018 #15
That's the way that I understand it, too. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #18
You understanding is not correct. former9thward Oct 2018 #16
Well, he *is* a U.S. Citizen by mother's identity. But how come these dudes UTUSN Oct 2018 #3
IOKIYAR Marcuse Oct 2018 #6
Hey, what have you got against Calgary ???? Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #4
cf., "(our friend) CANADA" in the o.p. UTUSN Oct 2018 #8
A beautiful city. Lovely, warm friendly people. Natural beauty that is awe-inspiring. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #10
Of course, proof posted here!1 It's (upper) Mid-West?!1 & what's with STETSONs worn here?!1 UTUSN Oct 2018 #11
Here're my Boies (in their Open Roads, need I add) : UTUSN Oct 2018 #13

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
2. His mother was a U.S. citizen, so he is
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:13 PM
Oct 2018

My cousin was born in Germany because her Dad was stationed there at the time with the U.S. Army, but she's a citizen because her parents are.

UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
5. Yip, McCAIN was born in Panama of obviously U.S. parents/military but
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:20 PM
Oct 2018

the a-hole hypocrisy of the SHITLER-ites challenging the laws for others in other catetories of LAW is apalling!




Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
7. Exactly! That is the perfect example!
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:25 PM
Oct 2018

I was reminded of that when I was discussing this recently. But we have to remember that Trump has no knowledge of nor respect for the rule of law. He just expects to get whatever he wants whenever he wants it. He thinks that's how the presidency works.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
9. That was because the dad was in the military and she was probably born on a military base
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:46 PM
Oct 2018

It isn't the same thing with Cruz. I'm not sure what would have happened if Carnival Cruz won the nomination, probably would have gone to the Supreme Court. Cruz's mom was living in Canada when he was born.

UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
14. Uh, "the dad" parents McCAIN both U.S. citizens.Deceased McCAINwas born in Panama US Military base
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:28 PM
Oct 2018

(Or, am sure to be corrected, did we HAVE a U.S. military base in Panama?&quot Don't matter because his PARENTS were U.S. Citizens. It don't matter that his dad was in the military, all that matters is that the dad (and/or mom) were U.S. citizens.

And, no, it don't matter where Carnival CRUZ's mother was living because she was/is a U.S.C. Unless SHITLER wants to change all the rules!1





UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
17. From Wiki, yes to "military base" but irrelevant. Both parents were U.S.citizens, &it just takes ONE
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:39 PM
Oct 2018

"John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. and Roberta (Wright) McCain. .... At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.[2]"






LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
12. My understanding is that his mother was not a U.S. citizen at time of his birth.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:16 PM
Oct 2018

Canadian law at time did not allow dual citizenship and both his parents voted in their elections. If correct, he does not have citizenship in any country because he renounced Canadian citizenship during campaign.

UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
15. Uh, from Wiki, "Eleanor Wilson was born in Wilmington, Delaware" TOTAL U.S. citizen
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:33 PM
Oct 2018

He *did* have citizenship/dual. He renounced the Canadian part for expediency during the campaign.





former9thward

(32,003 posts)
16. You understanding is not correct.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:34 PM
Oct 2018

If he "does not have citizenship in any country" then how is he a U.S. Senator? The Constitution requires senators be U.S. citizens. He us a U.S. citizen thru his mother who was born in the U.S. It matters not what Canadian law is or was.

UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
3. Well, he *is* a U.S. Citizen by mother's identity. But how come these dudes
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:15 PM
Oct 2018

question the law when it's about OTHER people's situations?!1







UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
8. cf., "(our friend) CANADA" in the o.p.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:27 PM
Oct 2018

Direct answer to direct question, what I got against Calgary is nurturing the birth of Carnival CRUZ.

However, my researching "Calgary" (thanks, Al GORE) will doubtlessly reveal wonders!1






Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
10. A beautiful city. Lovely, warm friendly people. Natural beauty that is awe-inspiring.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:51 PM
Oct 2018

The Stampede. Elected the first Muslim mayor in Canada. So much diversity -- over 100 languages spoken there.

And don't forget The Flames !! I still have my autographed photo of Lanny MacDonald (aka The 'Stash).

UTUSN

(70,688 posts)
11. Of course, proof posted here!1 It's (upper) Mid-West?!1 & what's with STETSONs worn here?!1
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:08 PM
Oct 2018

I wear Stetsons, too, but the LBJ Open Road!1















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