What, specifically, has Nancy Pelosi done that makes her colleagues find her so objectionable?

[mfcorey1]

[Soxfan58]

1. Born a Woman!

Its a common theme among repukes.

[brooklynite]

35. Did you bother to read the OP?

The questions is: why are her COLLEAGUES (ie Democrats) not supportive?

[leftynyc]

37. Why are you assuming the OP

is referring to Democrats and not fellow House members of the opposing party?

[brooklynite]

41. Because Republicans beating up on Pelosi hasn't been "news" since 2006...

...what has changed is the number of new Democratic candidates who say they won't support her as Speaker.

[leftynyc]

43. And they each get a vote like always

They're free to take her on for Speaker (or support someone else doing same). I think the OP could just as easily be speaking of each and every house repub featuring HER in all their negative ads since they don't have Hillary to dump on.

[Squinch]

45. Same answer.

[obamanut2012]

68. this

[still_one]

82. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[pnwmom]

104. Same thing -- just like with Hillary. Ambitious, effective women are resented

more than men, pretty much universally. This isn't a flaw of DEMOCRATS, specifically. It's a flaw in most people's view of women.

[Perrenial Voter]

36. Being a woman is half of it...

but the other half is that she is in a position of power. But frankly, I don't think they give a fig about Nancy Pelosi, they just want to ride the wave of misogyny that animates their base.

[pnwmom]

103. You got it. n/t

[bigtree]

2. she's a woman

...and those 'colleagues' who find her objectionable are self-serving republican bigots who can only elevate themselves by jumping on someone else's back.

[mfcorey1]

6. I was confused because she has raised more money for the DNC than any other

Democrat. A change of leadership does not guarantee that the donations will continue just might become a financial loss for the party.

[highplainsdem]

3. She's a powerful older woman. Same "flaws" that Hillary Clinton "suffers" from.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. Exactly!

[lancelyons]

4. Nothing. She has been vilified by the RIGHT and that has carried over to her colleagues.

[bullimiami]

9. Exactly. It is the result of a long, concerted smear campaign.

And unfortunately some of those that should be her advocates have been confused by it.

Ditto w Hillary.

[madaboutharry]

5. She is a strong and confident woman who speaks her mind,

believes that her country can do better, and cares about the well being of Americans.

That seems to be a problem for some people.

[California_Republic]

7. I now believe that any democratic leaders

Or presidential candidates will be made ‘objectionable ‘ by the Republicans. Who ever we bring forward they will try to make toxic.

Like John Kerry’s war record.

Ignore them.

[SallyHemmings]

8. Perfect response

[MaryMagdaline]

10. A lot of misogyny but also effectiveness

She is successful because she twists arms. She does not lose anyone once they commit. This makes her popular with me but I would hate to be someone whose arm she is twisting. Probably LBJ with with a softer voice.

You don’t get to be an effective Speaker of the House without pressuring people.

[njhoneybadger]

11. She blinks her eyes to much?

[greymattermom]

13. Here even a local candidate

for the statehouse is shown side by side with a picture of Nancy Pelosi in the ads for her opponent. I don't get it. I doubt that Sally Harrell has ever met Nancy Pelosi. I just see two women who are very good at their jobs. How is that scary?

[BeyondGeography]

14. Our seniority rules suck

And she has done too little to fix them. That’s why a lot of her colleagues have lost patience. Plus eight years of losing, which isn’t her fault but nothing to brag about either, especially when you’re hanging your hat on your ability to raise money from big donors who more often than not represent the status quo.

[leftynyc]

42. Dems picked up 6 house seats in 2016

That's not losing. If you want to blame her for losing the House in 2010 when it's obvious the reason was the ACA, go right ahead. I'm glad she fought so hard for it and it seems to have majority support these days.

[Bfd]

53. LOL.

That is simply not true.

How bout her hair. Or her voice...maybe the solid D behind her long successful career.

Seriously, when age becomes a reason for targeting someone as successful & powerful & necessary as Pelosi is, then the problem isn't Pelosi at all.

[betsuni]

60. Why didn't Pelosi stop ___?, losing, big donors, status quo. LOL!

[Cha]

98. ".. status quo" I very much doubt that.

No thanks for trying to paint Nancy with the one of those vapid buzzwords.

[jpljr77]

15. Nothing. Their objections are strictly political. HOWEVER....

If anyone on this board thinks the Democratic Party shouldn't honestly evaluate its leadership structure when it regains control of the House, then YOU need to evaluate why YOU continue to support Nancy Pelosi.

Nancy Pelosi has been the House Democratic leader for a long time, in both majority and minority. In that time, there have been some stunning wins for Democrats and America. But it's also been eight long years since House control was lost and it's taking a historically repugnant president to put Democrats back into a position to regain it.

So when we do that (which we will), why go back to her? Few gains have been made since 2010. She is, unfairly, a political lightning rod. There will be 235+ Democrats to choose from in January. So why her? Just because?

Block out everything "conservatives" say about her and evaluate the performance of House Democrats. Is Nancy Pelosi really the right leader to signal to America a big tent, progressive party? Is she the Democratic Party of the future?

Just because someone supports someone else doesn't mean they are falling victim to conservative rhetoric. Some of us are actually evaluating party performance. Does that all fall on her? No. But she's the leader.

[EffieBlack]

26. Damned right she IS a lightning rod

Do you know what a lightning rod is and what it does?

"a strip of metal that prevents lightning from damaging a building by directing the electricity into the ground someone who attracts and diverts criticism or anger that could be directed at someone else"

Nancy Pelosi is a lightning rod because she's a bad ass who eats lightning that would knock out the lesser forces in her party (usually the big talking little men) so it doesn't destroy them. The Dems should be thanking their lucky stars that Nancy Pelosi is who she is and does what she does and knows when and how to do it (because she IS "old" and has been around a long time - you know, EXPERIENCED).

Funny how Nancy Pelosi gets more blame for Democratic losses than the people - usually men - who lost their own races or didn't deliver their own districts. Like the way Tim Ryan blames her for Hillary losing his district - HEY, TIM! You couldn't even deliver your OWN effing district to Hillary but you think that means YOU should be Speaker instead of Nancy Pelosi whom you blame because YOU couldn't get your own constituents to vote Democratic?

Nothing like white male entitlement, is there?

[jpljr77]

39. OK, so you think any desire to move to another leader is an indication of white male entitlement?

[Bfd]

52. Thanks Effie.

Truth.

The same "collegues" who campaigned against the very progressive HRC, and Feinstein are rattling their tails against Pelosi.

We know why. And it has nothing to do with the dedication or solid performance of these 3.

Btw, Tim Ryan is the Last person who should be Speaker.
His lack of effectiveness has unfortunately been proven, as you pointed out.
DEMS don't need to weaken their speakership the day Pelosi retires, They need to find someone who can hold the line as well as she did.

Thanks

[George II]

79. ...

[vi5]

32. +1 (nt)

[LiberalLovinLug]

50. Well thought out response

No one is saying she's not done a terrific job in a lot of ways. But it's about winning. Not for votes in the House, for votes in the country, if we are to prioritize. And why not leave on top?
But a fresh face, a new generation of Democrats is what might sell to the eye glazers out there. Maybe it sounds crass, but We have to now beat Trump in his own arena. We have to keep the cameras on us.

[Bfd]

55. "Ahh yes that" FRESH FACE" excuse. It sounds like an old Sarandon make-up commercial

'Fresh Face'.

Brilliantly pathetic. Wonder who thought of tagging certain candidates with that word.


Fresh Face of L'Oreal....Susan Sarandon..Ya know what, that is really a nasty coded word to use as a reason to vote against a female.

[LiberalLovinLug]

87. You don't do yourself any favors with that kind of response

I did not mention Sarandon. I did not mention gender. But you found "codes" in my post.

This is why we can't even have an honest discussion on this topic. I thought jpljr77 made a thoughtful post trying to explain the viewpoint that its time to move on. Not in a mean or sexist way. But if all that gets thrown back is the Sarandon or the gender card, then its pointless to have the discussion. Don't start an OP with a question, if you don't want people to honestly answer.

[Bfd]

88. No. "Fresh Face" is thrown out as the last ditch go-to reason

for ridding the Dem leaders of their positions.

It is overused & a direct insult.

Fresh Face.
Cripe.

[jpljr77]

90. So are the people currently in power the only people qualified to hold that power? No room for...

anyone else at all? We just have to wait for their deaths?

"Fresh face" doesn't imply "someone without wrinkles." It implies someone new with a different perspective that is capable of attracting different people, while still staying true to Democratic Party ideals. Obviously, Bernie Sanders was a "fresh face" in 2016, nationally, as was Obama in 2008 and Ocasio-Cortez this year. The Democratic "fresh faces" can be as varied as that because that's what our party is.

Now, obviously, leadership requires experience. I don't think anyone is pushing for Ocasio-Cortez to be Speaker. But there are plenty of options to challenge the current leadership not named Tim Ryan.

[Bfd]

91. We're aware of how its said & whom its directed at.And who's saying it.

No one has declared that there is no room for others as the party looks at the future. Pelosi & Feinstein have both said they'd like to retire. There are names of outstanding Dems being spoken of as to their campaigns & their policies.
Pelosi & Feinstein & others aren't looking at shutting anyone out. That message is being touted by other people. They are, however not handing over their positions of power to those who lack the creds & the dedication to their Democratic ideals.
And that is why they are applauded & admired for staying right where they are for now.


So where's this derrogatory messaging coming from?
"Fresh face" has become the overused go-to rallying cry with nothing to offer in its place. "But..but..but.."
We see it. In fact we've been seeing it for a few years now.

We know exactly what it means.

Not buying your explaination.
I don't have to.
You are free to believe as you like.

Thanks

[jpljr77]

92. "We know exactly what it means."

By all means, stop beating around the bush. Tell me what it means. Please let me know what's REALLY in my heart.

Sheesh.

[dsc]

61. How about because she was, by any measure, the best House Speaker in decades

To find a President got as much legislation passed in his first two years, one has to go back to Carter and before that to Johnson. Pelosi is a huge part of that happening. She ran the House like a master tactician and thanks to that we have the Obama record plus some things that the Senate didn't get done (immigration reform, public option, ENDA to name three).

Since you are into votes. The base of our party is women, and given the voting demographics, older women. Just what to you think they are going to think if the very first decision we make with the power they will have given us, is to fire an older woman and replace her with a younger, less qualified male? Just what message does that send to our base?

[Bfd]

63. Spot on. Thank you.

.."because she was, by any measure, the best House Speaker in decades"

[EffieBlack]

71. THANK you!

[betsuni]

72. +1

[Docreed2003]

77. Excellent post!

The only thing I would add is, just who would/should replace her?? She has a breath and depth of knowledge and experience that can't just be replaced by anyone. Mrs Pelosi has done an amazing job holding together the Dems in the house again and again. I sincerely doubt very many of her "challengers" could have done the same!

[EffieBlack]

86. People keep saying we need "new blood" but can't identify who would replace

her or why they should other than that they're a "fresh face."

[jpljr77]

93. OK, here are some:

Terri Sewell (AL - class of 2010) - The only Democrat from Alabama in the House. She went to Princeton, Harvard, AND Oxford. From Selma, civil rights advocacy is in her DNA. She has also traveled in Congressional delegations with Nancy Pelosi. She is extremely liberal socially, but backs pro-growth economic policies and actually championed Obama's framework for business tax reform that never got done and then was ruined by the current ruiner of all things in the White House.

Jim Himes (CT - class of 2008) - Pro-business Democrat that is "in the pocket of Wall Street" I'm sure some would say, but who also is a fluent, almost native Spanish speaker and gets 100% ratings from Planned Parenthood, Environment America, the Brady Campaign, the Human Rights Campaign (LGBTQ issues), and the American Immigration Lawyers Association. Basically, he's a hard-core social liberal that also believes in pro-growth and pro-labor economic policy. He helped write and pass Dodd-Frank and then had the guts to actually vote for some needed reforms to it.

Karen Bass (CA - class of 2010) - Former speaker of the California General Assembly. Very well-known in inside baseball liberal circles, she was floated as a possible Bernie running mate had he won the nomination. Staunch supporter of gun control.

There are a ton more. How about John Sarbanes (MD)? Marcia Fudge (OH), who replaced Debbie Wasserman Schultz as 2016 DNC chair?

[EffieBlack]

94. These are great representatives

What specific skills or experience do they have that makes you think they would be good Speakers of the House and should replace Nancy Pelosi in the job?

Fie example, "traveling in Congressional delegations with Nancy Pelosi" or being liberal or drafting a good bill are all nice, but hardly unique and are not something that makes one an effective Speaker.

Being a good Speaker requires more than just being a good liberal legislator. Can they lead, manage and corral a disparate caucus? Do they know all the ins and outs of parliamentary procedure and practice, the minutae of House rules and processes and/or are they willing to learn? Have they earned the loyalty of other the vast majority of the Caucus? Have they proven adept at and willing to raise money prolifically?Have they helped to organize the Caucus, worked behind the scenes as part of House leadership?

And have any of them indicated they actually want the job?

[jpljr77]

96. One was the Speaker of the CA General Assembly.

But I get it, none spell their names N-A-N-C-Y P-E-L-O-S-I, so I guess it's immediately disqualifying.

[EffieBlack]

97. Yes, that's it. You got me.

[jcgoldie]

16. No penis

And an effective leader. That makes her dangerous.

[Bfd]

54. Thank you. Nailed it!

Certain collegues eye her position of power like rats after a piece of cheese.
Btw, Pelosi's stellar performance has absolutely nothing to do with the real reason these few collegues want her out.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

101. You went THERE !!!

[FreepFryer]

17. Wielding power whilst female. (n/t)

[sarah FAILIN]

18. Succeed

The reps hate her so rep voters hate which means dems dealing with reps say they dislike her.
She also has a vaginas, but mainly her success.

[OBrien]

19. Being an elder woman.

[MineralMan]

20. She's a woman and she's old.

That's it.

However, some are apparently listening to right-wingers, who dislike her because she is a very effective legislative leader. I think we should be suspicious of such folks, frankly.

[EffieBlack]

21. More specifically, what does she HAVE that freaks them out? A brain and a vagina

Republicans are terrified of her because she out-thinks them, out-works them, and out-maneuvers them at every turn. They know they can't get around her so they've convinced some scared-of-their-own-shadows Democrats to do their dirty work for them.

It's ridiculous for Democrats to run around talking about how Nancy needs to go because Republicans don't like her and she's such
a "lightning rod." Damned right she's al lightning rod - and if they knew what a lightning rod actually did, they'd thank her very much for helping to save their butts and then shut the hell up and let her do her thing.

[Initech]

22. Be a liberal.

Conservatives can't stand that sort of thing.

[MyNameGoesHere]

23. Nancy Pelosi will be a leader regardless

If she is majority leader or not. She has proven it year after year. I don't want her to be excluded because she is a woman, nor do I wish to have her as the right wing boogeyman. Whatever happens she will continue to be the leader she always has been. I wouldn't mind one way or the other, but if she isn't a target for the nut jobs that might not be a bad thing for a while. They will always invent a new boogeyman.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. Dunno

It seems like nothing more than be a "whipping girl" for the Republicans. Which seems like a terrible reason to abandon her.

[Tom Rinaldo]

25. She's been too effective

Hence Republicans constantly lie about and smear her. Hence some Dem candidates try to prove their "independence" to voters by running away from her

[obamanut2012]

69. Exactly -- she has been rated one of the top three Speakers of all time

[mtnsnake]

27. It's not just because she's a woman or she's old

It's because she's a very powerful Democratic leader who has a lot of influence, one who just happens to be a woman and one of our most vocal and instrumental people over decades.

The Right Wing think tanks concentrate their efforts towards our most valuable assets, male or female, Pelosi being one of those assets. Man or woman, the Right Wing will do anything they can to marginalize our best people, spreading rumors, propaganda, and inciting hatred throughout their base towards our best people. They did the same thing to Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren, and now Andrew Gillum as well. The Right Wing always goes after our best people, and Pelosi did nothing other than being one of our best.

(edit: typo: changed our of our best to one of our best)

[EffieBlack]

29. Well said

And Democrats fall for it every time.

But I do think her being female has something to do with it - if only that it makes it easier for the right and some Democrats to spear her in ways and with terms that would never work if she were a man.

[Bfd]

58. Precisely.

"The Right Wing think tanks concentrate their efforts towards our most valuable assets, male or female, Pelosi being one of those assets.
Man or woman, the Right Wing will do anything they can to marginalize our best people, spreading rumors, propaganda, and inciting hatred throughout their base towards our best people.
They did the same thing to Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren, and now Andrew Gillum as well.
The Right Wing always goes after our best people, and Pelosi did nothing other than being one of our best. "

[PubliusEnigma]

28. She has won. Again and again. She persisted.

[NurseJackie]

30. She's hated by the political extremes because she can count, and because she's a woman.

[vi5]

31. What "colleagues" find her objectionable?

I personally like her as a person and I think she's smart and strong and great. That being said, I think her and Schumer have both been fairly ineffective leaders and figureheads over the past few years and both of them should hand over the reins to someone new.

To me they are both mired in the old way of thinking and old style politics and still act as though this is all just differences of opinion and that things can be hashed out with the other side, and that things like pointing out Republican hypocrisy is going to shame them into doing or not doing something.

But between the two of them, I find Schumer much less effective and much worse of a leader than Pelosi, by a lot. So I guess the fact that he gets much less criticism, especially since the Senate is the more important body of the two, lends credence to the sexism charges.

So....yeah?

[beachbum bob]

33. from who's viewpoint?

fellow democratic congress people? GOP congress people? GOP'ers? Democrats?

I find her objectionable because Pelosi has little she can relate to the average democratic voter and now her age is a real issue. She has lived a pretty entitled lifestyle and the face of the democratic party in Congress needs changing

[mcar]

34. She has a vagina

and was the most effective speaker in a generation. Rs are terrified of her. The Democrats against her want power and don't care about her effectiveness. Guess they figure if an "old woman" can do it, so can they.

[brooklynite]

38. In case anyone wants a serious answer, rather than rote responses...

1. She's old (as is Steny Hoyer), and some people see the need for a generational shift in Leadership

2. She's (by Democratic Standards) "mainstream" and is seen as not fully supportive of the agenda of newer, more progressive members.

[Bfd]

62. Pelosi has been quite progressive throughout her long successful career.

The women I see targeted, HRC, FEINSTEIN, PELOSI, have probably been 3 of the most progressive leaders in the history of their political careers.
They didn't get where they are by standing quietly with the crowd.
Young & progressive Democrats is who they have always had to be to stand against the white male dominated political world from the day these women rose within the ranks.
The base that applauded & kept bringing them back did so because of their progressive Democratic fight against the stark limits set by the male dominated lawmaking body.

It is insulting as heck to draw a dividing line between progressive and Not progressive where Pelosi is concerned.

Her career was built on being progressive against conservatives.
The repubs hate that.
Those feeding this smear campaign maybe need to understand what progressiveness it takes to build a career as progressively Democraticly successful as Speaker Pelosi's.

Progressive is not a particular Party.

[brooklynite]

65. Backtrack two or three years and see how Feinstein has been portrayed here.....

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1002310431

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029538334

[Bfd]

70. Better yet, go back 10/20 + yrs into the careers of Feinstein, Pelosi or HRC.

They grew up learning the game that would be played against them throughout their careers.
That is why the are still with us in keeping the door of democracy bolted against such nefarious global assassins like we see today.

Their political life stories are all so incredibly inspiring.
I have nothing but admiration for the long upredictable path they set out upon early in their life.

They had great mentors who they learned from, and gratefuy took their advise.

I cannot imagine any of them being so smug about themselves that they would resort to caling a fellow pol like Bella Abzug, for instance, old & in the way.

These women did not get where the are by demeaning the greats who broke the glass ceilings before them.

BTW, Broadway fans out there
Bette Midler in Talks to Star as Bella Abzug in Gloria Steinem Biopic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.broadwayworld.com/amp/c.php%3furl=Bette-Midler-in-Talks-to-Star-as-Bella-Abzug-in-Gloria-Steinem-Biopic-20181101

[m-lekktor]

81. Exactly. thank you nt

[Funtatlaguy]

40. They say age and a need for new leadership.

[Polly Hennessey]

44. She is a successful, tough

woman. Add Democrat to that description and the Repukes become unhinged.

[Me.]

46. Breathe

[niyad]

47. Woman. Older. Competent. Powerful.

[applegrove]

48. She's very likeable. She's charismatic and plain spoken. She's a threat.

[Pity Puddles]

49. Removed Chimp's impeachment proceedings off the table.

That idiot needed impeachin' as well as Trump.

[allgood33]

51. That and some of her "colleagues" follow the "purity" demands. She is very competent AND

has proven herself to be one of the most successful Democratic leaders in decades. She, like Hillary, is smart, persistent, and UNAFRAID of the male machismo, and can work across party lines when necessary.

[Bfd]

57. Truth.

[EffieBlack]

73. Then her colleagues - mostly white men - should have pledged to impeach so the Speaker had the votes

They refused to do so, she didn't have the votes and she's a smart enough tactician not to waste the party's capital and ammunition going after an impossibility. If she had done what you wanted, the Dems would have spent the better part of a year it more fighting a losing battle, the House and Senate going back to the Republicans in 2008, no President Obama, a President McCain (or someone worse), no healthcare, no equal pay legislation, no stimulus package, no economic recovery, etc.

But let's blame Nancy Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table ...

[Eyeball_Kid]

76. Then she should have said as much. She didn't.

She made it her own. She ended the issue with a full stop. She implied that it was her decision to take it off the table. That said, in other respects, she HAS been effective. But I wish she’d pass the baton to a younger person. The Dems need an overhaul. There’s lots of new blood.

[EffieBlack]

85. She didn't need to say it

And if she had, people would have bitched about that, too.

[JI7]

100. no she didn't. it never had support. Bernie Sanders opposed impeachment also

[BlueTsunami2018]

59. Nothing. Voters in certain places just don't like her.

Her colleagues like her just fine but you have to play it a certain way in certain places. If all goes well on Tuesday, she’ll be Madam Speaker again.

[Bfd]

64. She will be until she decides to retire & only when knowing she has left the

position of Democratic Speakership in the very best hands for the future of her country.

Then she will finally be able to retire, dignified, honorably and with some of the most stellar accomplishments in the history of politics.
Her history is a bible for all those seeking a career ike Pelosi's.
She has been through the trenches, like HRC & Feinsten and the many greats, beside & before them.

[Joe941]

66. Ageism

[obamanut2012]

67. She is considered one of the top three most effective Speakers of all time

And doesn't share one thing with any of her predecessors, so "not have a penis and testicles" is the answer.

[Greybnk48]

75. What Obamanut2012 said,

though she's probably the BEST most effective speaker ever because she can compromise, but doesn't have to play good old boy politics.

[Stinky The Clown]

74. She committed the cardinal sin of growing old

Add to that the fact that she grew old wall being a woman. It seems to me quite possible she’s getting the same treatment from outside sources and dark money did Hillary Clinton got and continues to get

[George II]

78. I don't think many of her colleagues DO find her objectionable..

...that's just something some are trying to spread to create some sort of controversy.

When presiding over a group of ~200 people from all corners of the country, some are bound to not be 100% behind anyone.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

[Bfd]

80. K & R for George The majority of her collegues find her quite favorable

"I don't think many of her colleagues DO find her objectionable..
...that's just something some are trying to spread to create some sort of controversy. "

They said the same things about Hillary & Feinstein.

As for the Republicans, look how they went after Warren.
We recognize swiftboating when we see it. Even within our own party.

I wonder which Democratic "fresh face" these constituents (collegues) have in mind to replace Pelosi?

[GWC58]

83. Nancy Pelosi was one of the finest Speakers

we have had. She knew how to get her members in line. I’m hoping Nancy is, once again, Speaker of the House. 👍🏻

[leftyladyfrommo]

84. She is a tough woman and that makes her scary. nt

[librechik]

89. vagina. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

95. Who thinks she's objectionable?

Some probably think she's a bit old, that it's time to find a leader who's maybe under 60?

[Garrett78]

99. A vast majority of Pelosi's Dem colleagues support her. As for those who don't like her or...

...simply don't want her to be Speaker again, I think there are probably a few different camps. There may be some who think it's just time for a change (because of her age, because they've bought into the notion that she's too polarizing with her "San Francisco values," or because they themselves want to be Speaker). But I think the bulk of the opposition within Pelosi's own party is rooted in this "anti-establishment/Dems focus too much on 'identity politics' and not enough on economics" bullshit that many cling to in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

I fully expect Pelosi to be Speaker next year.

[murielm99]

102. I don't accept your statement.

If her "colleagues" are repiggies, of course they want to get rid of her. She is effective.

I don't believe Democrats in the House feel the same way.

We should not allow the opposition to choose our leaders.

[Meowmee]

105. She is great

We should keep her. 👍🏻