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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:37 PM Nov 2018

WA State Rep: "For those who do not follow biblical law, kill all males" (FBI now involved)

Just one week until the Midterm election and a Spokane Valley representative up for reelection finds himself under federal scrutiny after a manifesto distributed by him was leaked to the public.

The four-page document, titled "Biblical Basis for War" was originally reported by the Spokesman-Review. It's a radical Christian call to arms, outlining 14 steps for seizing power and what to do afterward in explicit detail. It calls for an end to abortions, an end to same-sex marriage, and if enemies do not yield and everyone obey biblical law, all males will be killed.

We reached out to Shea multiple times to ask him about this manifesto, contacting him on Facebook, calling his legislative offices in both Olympia and Spokane Valley, as well as his Spokane Valley law firm.

He has not returned our calls, but his legislative aid did say our message was being passed along to Rep. Shea. He did however post a video on Facebook earlier this month. In it, Shea admits to distributing the document, but calls it a summary of a series of sermons in the Old Testament, or "just a war theory" philosophy.

We reached out to the FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force about the manifesto. They tell us they are actively reviewing the manifesto for investigative leads.

http://www.khq.com/story/39387853/spokane-valley-representative-under-scrutiny-for-leaked-manifesto

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WA State Rep: "For those who do not follow biblical law, kill all males" (FBI now involved) (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Nov 2018 OP
So, the FBI is involved? Good. They should be. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2018 #1
all males will be killed, and for the women? Let me guess --- vlyons Nov 2018 #2
Yup. More females for the (chosen?) surviving males. alwaysinasnit Nov 2018 #8
They can take women for themselves NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #25
glad the fbi is involved. this guy is NUTS. niyad Nov 2018 #3
"To Defend And Protect..." ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #4
There are 2naSalit Nov 2018 #5
Imagine if you will if this was the manifesto of a Muslim running ck4829 Nov 2018 #6
Bad enough when they used to mutter this dark crap over a beer or in a primative church ... marble falls Nov 2018 #7
I have just one comment: pazzyanne Nov 2018 #9
Old Testament. colorado_ufo Nov 2018 #10
Christians claim that the OT is relevant. FiveGoodMen Nov 2018 #12
It is relevant as a basis. colorado_ufo Nov 2018 #35
This is one of the best descrption of what it means to actually be a Christian efhmc Nov 2018 #39
Old Testament is how Christians refer to Jewish Holy Scripture that they have grantcart Nov 2018 #13
Thank you, you got what I was trying to say. pazzyanne Nov 2018 #17
Isaiah is pretty nasty no matter how you read it....NT Adrahil Nov 2018 #30
If you notice, christian is spelled with small case "c". pazzyanne Nov 2018 #16
They sure can thump The 10 Commandments!! Duppers Nov 2018 #32
And I bet this guy is terrified of Sharia. geardaddy Nov 2018 #11
or his constituents are. n/t onethatcares Nov 2018 #18
And here it is ... Silver1 Nov 2018 #14
"Must obey Biblical law" gratuitous Nov 2018 #22
Mental midgets ... Silver1 Nov 2018 #23
I'm certainly not communist but I am interested in dae Nov 2018 #24
Yeah, me too. That jumped right out, even past the other crazy. yonder Nov 2018 #27
There are more verses that promote something resembling communism. Crunchy Frog Nov 2018 #28
EXACTLY! Duppers Nov 2018 #33
Yes Silver1 Nov 2018 #37
Please let me and us know if you figure it out. Silver1 Nov 2018 #36
Spokane Valley.... When us Spokanites wanted to feel urbane, tolerant and thoughtful all we had grantcart Nov 2018 #15
Is this the RNC platform for 2020? The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #19
He is my sister' representative. mommymarine2003 Nov 2018 #20
Warriors for Christ is a real group Maggiemayhem Nov 2018 #21
Ted Cruz and family are Dominionists. efhmc Nov 2018 #40
The Handmaid's Tale ☹ marylandblue Nov 2018 #26
With the Biblical law thing, are they going to kill my sons for not being circumcised? Crunchy Frog Nov 2018 #29
The guy's a piece of work Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #31
They hate us for our freedoms. TheOther95Percent Nov 2018 #34
what is his full name? Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #38
I hope he's not mixing linen and wool in his clothing.. Permanut Nov 2018 #41

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. all males will be killed, and for the women? Let me guess ---
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:42 PM
Nov 2018

off to the handmaiden's harem for them. Hope that guy gets convicted of inciting a riot and overthrow of the gov. These Biblical evangelical assholes are NOT Christians. They are a degenerate cult.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
25. They can take women for themselves
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:22 PM
Nov 2018

just like it says in the Bible:

but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.
--Numbers 31:18

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
5. There are
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:47 PM
Nov 2018

some pretty scary folks up in that neck of the woods... just across the state line from the Idaho panhandle with all its scary folks.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
7. Bad enough when they used to mutter this dark crap over a beer or in a primative church ...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:53 PM
Nov 2018

but this is dangerous.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
35. It is relevant as a basis.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:36 PM
Nov 2018

Jesus discussed how it is not wise to put new wine into old wineskins. He said that if you do that, the wineskins will burst and the wine and the wineskins will both be lost. In other places the Gospels talk about being born again and putting on the new life (paraphrased). When the woman was caught in adultery, and there were men who wanted to stone her, Jesus gave them a new way to look at the situation and spared her. My point is, Jesus always showed kindness and love and forgiveness. He never advocated war or killing or anything other than loving your neighbor as yourself. And when he was asked who is someone's neighbor, that is when he gave the parable of the Good Samaritan. This is what being a Christian means to me. I honestly have no idea where or how spelling Christian with a small C began.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
39. This is one of the best descrption of what it means to actually be a Christian
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:50 AM
Nov 2018

I have seen on the internet. Acceptance of ALL people, love and caring.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
13. Old Testament is how Christians refer to Jewish Holy Scripture that they have
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:03 PM
Nov 2018

Incorporated as the first part of their 2 part canon called the Bible.

If it was promoted by Jewish followers they would call it either the Torah or the Tanakh, only Christians use the term "Old Testament".

Radical Christians misuse both the Old and New Testament to promote unchristian values exactly like the jihadists misuse Islam.

It very much is Christan Sharia Law.

pazzyanne

(6,549 posts)
16. If you notice, christian is spelled with small case "c".
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:07 PM
Nov 2018

The small case christians are deadly against Sharia Law, but they are spewing the christian form of sharia law. That was my point.

Silver1

(721 posts)
14. And here it is ...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:05 PM
Nov 2018
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/khq/SHEAWAR.pdf

War guide for the Fundi Christian brainwashed.

Number 5:

Four ways to know it's time to fight:

a. God reveals His will to the leader;
b. Leader inquires of God ... Prayer council;
c. God puts it on the hearts of the people; or
d. God starts the fight.

And the terms of surrender:

10. c. ii. Must surrender on terms of justice and righteousness:

1. Stop all abortions;
2. No same-sex marriages;
3. No idolatry or occultism;
4. No communism; and
5. Must obey Biblical law.

iv: If they do not yield - kill all males.


Sick, twisted, delusional.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. "Must obey Biblical law"
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:30 PM
Nov 2018

I'm confident that's probably defined somewhere in this nutcase's manifesto, but I'm also confident that by "Biblical law" he's not talking about feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, housing the homeless, and visiting the sick and imprisoned. He's probably also not into any of that sissy "serve one another in love" nonsense or lending freely to all who ask without any expectation of repayment. Biblical principles, all of them, but not prominently featured in a theology that leads to "kill all males."

Silver1

(721 posts)
23. Mental midgets ...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:52 PM
Nov 2018

Oh yes, frustrated, brainwashed individuals like this are very selective about what Biblical law is and says. Curiously, their interpretation just so happens to suit their depraved needs, both mental and physical.

I imagine they'd say the teachings of Christ in the New Testament about charity and humility need to be placed on hold ... temporarily of course ... because the true Christians are under attack. It's Time For War! And by true Christians, they mean reborn christians and their progeny. The rest of the world can go to hell. Actually, they literally believe the rest of us are.

I know several people raised as fundies who got out. It's a severe childhood defined by rules and which demands absolute obedience to biblical teaching - as interpreted by mental midgets like the one above.

yonder

(9,664 posts)
27. Yeah, me too. That jumped right out, even past the other crazy.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:32 PM
Nov 2018

It must be in the Book of SamMoZekial, I forget which chapter.

Silver1

(721 posts)
36. Please let me and us know if you figure it out.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:31 PM
Nov 2018

It is curious. Why would fundies even bring up communism in their "christian" "manifesto"? What could possibly be the justification?

I am a socialist, and given how much people confuse socialism with communism, I'd really like to understand the rationale, if there is one. But I doubt it. Someone peppered their little brains with it and it stuck.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. Spokane Valley.... When us Spokanites wanted to feel urbane, tolerant and thoughtful all we had
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:06 PM
Nov 2018

To do was look at Spokane Valley

mommymarine2003

(261 posts)
20. He is my sister' representative.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:14 PM
Nov 2018

My sister lives in Liberty Lake, WA, which is part of his district. She is an Evangelical who voted for Trump. She and I are starting to communicate again since the 2016 election, but it has been uncomfortable for us. I think I am going to ask her how she feels about this man, but I do worry that we will go backwards in our relationship. I hope he is forced to resign.

Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
21. Warriors for Christ is a real group
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:28 PM
Nov 2018

Not just in Washington state. Everywhere. Dominionism teaches them to run for office.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
34. They hate us for our freedoms.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:05 PM
Nov 2018

Getting pretty hard to tell the difference between the jihadists and some elements of the GOP.

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