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Ooooh! Ooooh! Ooooh! Horse race! Repugs surging! Race tightening Blah, Blah, Blah! (Original Post) Xipe Totec Nov 2018 OP
Started to watch... wcmagumba Nov 2018 #1
It's all just speculation. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #2
That's why I call them Especuleros. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #3
Little turd needs more Red Bull. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #4
UNREC brooklynite Nov 2018 #5
What if it's true??? a kennedy Nov 2018 #6
The thing I can't stand about Kornacki is that he sounds so excited about it -- pnwmom Nov 2018 #12
I highly encourage people not to just assume these polls are wrong D_Master81 Nov 2018 #7
I don't understand the hate for experts who aren't promising victory renate Nov 2018 #9
Whichever way it goes, I'm not assuming its a horse race. Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #10
Turn him off, turn him off. Polly Hennessey Nov 2018 #8
Whatever the result, the media chuckleheads will claim they called it gratuitous Nov 2018 #11

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
5. UNREC
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 10:45 PM
Nov 2018

Name a specific statement he made that you interpret as "Repugs surging".

As for "race tightening", if you're not aware of it, most of the races ARE tight.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
12. The thing I can't stand about Kornacki is that he sounds so excited about it --
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 12:36 AM
Nov 2018

like it's a good thing.

Supposedly he's a progressive. He could at least report his depressing conclusions in a matter of fact way, instead of so breathlessly.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
7. I highly encourage people not to just assume these polls are wrong
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 10:56 PM
Nov 2018

People here in GOP territory are thinking they are going to win and are fired up big time. Does that mean they're right? No, but I'm just saying I've followed politics long enough and been on here since W was Pres and back then I didnt want to believe polls where Kerry was losing, guess what, he lost. Alot of times polls are pretty accurate whether we like it or not.

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. I don't understand the hate for experts who aren't promising victory
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:19 PM
Nov 2018

Election night 2016 was horrific. We were absolutely unprepared emotionally for what happened. I’m pretty sure most of us remember that night as vividly as we remember 9/11 or the Challenger explosion.

I’m not sure why the cautious part of cautious optimism gets short shrift. Logically, we should have a tremendous victory because the president is such a terrible, divisive person... but as we have seen, his terribleness and divisiveness are exactly what his loathesome, hate-filled cult members worship about him, and each of their votes counts just as much as each of ours does.

Polly Hennessey

(6,796 posts)
8. Turn him off, turn him off.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:16 PM
Nov 2018

Or, mute him. His goal in life is to depress you. The Democrat could be ahead by ten points and he would still tell you it is a tight race.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Whatever the result, the media chuckleheads will claim they called it
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 12:03 AM
Nov 2018

One of the local stations was reporting on the Oregon governor's race between incumbent Democrat Kate Brown and former legislator Republican Knute Buehler. The race hasn't been extensively polled, but every one I've seen has had Brown leading by 3-5%, all within the margin of error (as the media folks never tire of pointing out). The point being that while the race is close, it consistently polls in Brown's favor.

Also, in vote-by-mail Oregon, the numbers of ballots returned are a matter of public record (not who you voted for, just that your ballot has been received by the county registrar). The other significant datapoint that made the news report this past week is that as of Wednesday (I think), 27% of Republican ballots and 27.4% of Democratic ballots had been returned. Oooh, close! Well, perhaps not. There are more Democrats registered in Oregon than Republicans. And, while not every Democrat votes for the Democratic candidate, neither does every Republican vote for the Republican. Democrats enjoy a small edge percentagewise, but in terms of raw numbers, that means that there are quite a few more Democratic ballots than Republican ballots that have been turned in. If Democrats have 125,000 registered voters and Republicans have 100,000 voters, equal percentages means that there are 6,000-7,000 more ballots marked by a Democrat.

So, after all the whoa-nelly-what-a-horse-race reportage, the facts of a presumed Brown victory on Tuesday are hiding in plain sight; the media for some reason just didn't elucidate what those poll number consistently said or how reporting just the percentages of ballots disguised the actual number of votes for each party.

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