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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
1. The opinion of that column's author is HIS opinion,
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 01:06 PM
Nov 2018

not the Washington Post's opinion. And he's probably correct about a few of tonight's Victor's; that's what happens in wave type elections unfortunately.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
3. vehemently disagree
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 01:10 PM
Nov 2018

Washington Post chose to publish this load of crap.

Can we at least WIN the seats we are being told we can't hang onto first??????

Is that asking too much?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
5. "vehemently disagree" all you want, the opinion writer is correct, some people elected tonight won't
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 01:44 PM
Nov 2018

be re-elected by choice or they'll be defeated at the polls in 2020. Even party leaders know this for a fact and I base my opinion on 55+ years of involvement in Democratic Party politics.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
4. You could say the same thing about seats won by Republicans in 2010 and 2014
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

Sure there is a pendulum effect in some of these districts. That is why the entire House is up for election every 2 years. But then there are other seats that become vulnerable, and so on, and so on.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
6. Well the House won't be redrawn until after 2020.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 01:48 PM
Nov 2018

We blew it in 2010, a census year and the Republicans swept into governor mansions everywhere and aggressively gerrymandered many states. That won't change until after the 2020 census. So yeah, defending these seats will be hard because of that.

However, Trump will be front and center in 2020, and if he's running for re-election (Or Pence if by some miracle Trump is removed from office), and if their current unpopularity holds or worsens, defending those seats shouldn't be that bad.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
7. I remember 2010.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 02:15 PM
Nov 2018

Republican operatives and donors pulled out all the stops because they knew it was time for redistricting/gerrymandering. At the same time, I don't recall the same kind of zeal from Democrats, perhaps because it's not in their DNA to jump at every opportunity to undermine democracy by rigging the system in their favor. It's a lesson to remember leading up to 2020.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
8. I recall the same thing
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 02:25 PM
Nov 2018

the Democratic Party was a sleep at the switch on that. They didn't take 2010 very seriously. Leadership was coasting or caught unawares about the Republican hate fest on the ACA... either way they clearly had no plan. I remember in the week after election night a lot of Democrats were saying "holy cow, its a Census year???"

I also remember a lot of Obama's youth supporters totally abandoning him because he didn't change everything they wanted on day one. That hurt. I also remember young people expressing frustration over the ACA fight and spending political capital while they were still jobless and chocking on massive college debt. I don't blame them for feeling used after 2008. I don't think its accurate to say they were used in 2008, but I do get why they felt that way. Its familiar ground for any GenXer like myself.

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