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(3,032 posts)fuck
airmid
(500 posts)Ohiogal
(31,979 posts)Soooo disappointed!
johnnyrocket
(1,773 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)The ones I know constantly spout the Gawd, country and family bs yet have the most dysfunctional family relationships I've witnessed.
Florida has been ruined by transplants and their RW ideologies.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Raven123
(4,828 posts)Neither he nor Cordray are very charismatic speakers. Diasappointign, but not all that surprising.
NEOBuckeye
(2,781 posts)He's done nothing but chase after his dreams of being POTUS for the past four years.
If anything, it's because people here know the DeWine name. Cordray, not so much yet.
Raven123
(4,828 posts)Hes also has been an Attorey General in Ohio, so he is not a stranger.
NEOBuckeye
(2,781 posts)I thought he took too much time to make up his mind about jumping in. He wasted a lot of time that could have been spent campaigning and making connections. Democrats just don't have the luxury here of being casual campaigners.
And so, we're stuck with GOP dominance for at least 4 more years...
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)Ohio was becoming too conservative for me.
It is still too conservative for me. I live in a progressive state and will never look back.
lindysalsagal
(20,670 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)and it didn't look as if there were enough Lucas County and Cuyahoga County votes left to pull it off.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)The Democratic party is anemic in Ohio, just like Kentucky. It was different when unions were still strong but Americans decided giant walk in closets full of cheap ass shit from Walmart was more important than fighting for their own futures.
I hoped Ohio would at least tighten up the gap but it looks like there is about as much hope here as I had in Turtleville.
we can do it
(12,182 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)samplegirl
(11,476 posts)Of Ohio my entire life it was so disappointing that Dewine won. Its a hard hit for Ohio. Yes Ohio is full of teabgger morons.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)But the Repukes cleaned up at the state level:
Governor
SOS
Treasurer
AG
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)sfwriter
(3,032 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)RainCaster
(10,866 posts)... and they all proudly vote a straight red ticket. No thought involved. They refuse to listen to my WTF, insisting that somebody said that all good Jesus lovin people vote red cause that's Gawds Party. Good 'nuff for them.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)The 2016 national exit poll was 36% conservatives and 27% liberals. I know I refer to this category all the time but I do so because it is immensely instructive, and tends to obliterate polling and subjectivity.
Last night in 6 major governor races among states that flipped from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016, we lost all 3 -- Iowa, Ohio, Florida -- in states where the 2016 presidential exit poll had a gap of greater than that 9% national number between liberals and conservatives.
Florida had an 11% gap (36-25) in 2016 , while Ohio was 19% (39-20), and Iowa was 17% (40-23).
Now the good part. As I've mentioned here and elsewhere, the exit poll ideological breakdown in other 2016 upset states was not too bad. It was more of short term betrayal than abandonment or meaningful shift.
Consequently, we won governorships last night in states that had equal to or less than that 9% gap in 2016. Those states essentially wanted to vote our way and were saying try again, but this time give us some love.
We won governorships in Michigan (36-27 in 2016), Pennsylvania (33-27), and Wisconsin (34-25).
Sometimes the simple stuff wins. In Las Vegas I discovered I needed mathematical and systematic crutches like that, so I wasn't always scrambling for subjective decisions.
I still say we should have won Florida. As you can see, at 11% gap it was much more available than Iowa or Ohio, and we had a candidate to candidate edge, at least theoretically.