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regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:14 AM Nov 2018

One as-yet-unmentioned benefit of flipping the House...

...is that it now makes it impossible for 45 to shut down the investigation into Russiagate.

Oh, sure, Mad King Donald could fire Sessions and Rosenstein and bring in a new AG who will end the probe and dismiss Mueller but, if he tries that, the House Judiciary Committee can and will start up their own investigation, with full subpoena power, televised hearings, and everything. They could even hire Mueller as their majority counsel, and bring on his staffers from the DoJ to assist the new probe.

If Repugs had held on to the House, the investigation would have been history. Now, it’s never been more alive.

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One as-yet-unmentioned benefit of flipping the House... (Original Post) regnaD kciN Nov 2018 OP
And the House committees can exercise real oversight over his Cabinet. dalton99a Nov 2018 #1
True that... RHMerriman Nov 2018 #5
Oh I bet the trump fascist cabinet Cha Nov 2018 #18
Can't he shut it down before the new congress? Patterson Nov 2018 #2
It'll will just get started back up with vengeance as soon as the shiny new and blue House is toddwv Nov 2018 #6
That's right...nt 2naSalit Nov 2018 #8
Oh, it's been mentioned... GaYellowDawg Nov 2018 #3
Are you ready for some open hearings with Michael Cohen. RDANGELO Nov 2018 #4
Wait til they get to 2naSalit Nov 2018 #9
Rep. Jerome Nadler, current ranking member of Judiciary, and so RHMerriman Nov 2018 #7
Ooooh! 2naSalit Nov 2018 #10
Yep ... Trump is dead, politically. RHMerriman Nov 2018 #11
I lived through that too 2naSalit Nov 2018 #12
I agree with you. RHMerriman Nov 2018 #13
I need to brush up on my history 2naSalit Nov 2018 #14
Successful party for many years that fell apart when faced by the sectional crisis RHMerriman Nov 2018 #16
Thanks...nt 2naSalit Nov 2018 #17
Trump will be packing the courts with the worst people for 2 more years BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #20
House funds the federal courts. RHMerriman Nov 2018 #21
No Federal courts, no trials from Mueller indictments BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #22
The point is the House has the power of the purse; without consensus candidates, the House can RHMerriman Nov 2018 #23
Well, he could do it before January 1st since Republicans are still in power for 2 more months. OliverQ Nov 2018 #15
So much is in motion 2naSalit Nov 2018 #19

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
5. True that...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:22 AM
Nov 2018

Can you hear that? Those trumpet calls? It's the goddamned cavalry, riding to the rescue!

Cha

(297,205 posts)
18. Oh I bet the trump fascist cabinet
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:22 AM
Nov 2018

is blubbering in their bourbon or whatever the hell.

Could they rein in ben carson HUD Gaslighter for instance?

Thanks Dalton!

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
6. It'll will just get started back up with vengeance as soon as the shiny new and blue House is
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:27 AM
Nov 2018

as soon as the shiny new and blue House is gaveled in when the 116th Congress is convened on Jan. 24rd 2019.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
7. Rep. Jerome Nadler, current ranking member of Judiciary, and so
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:37 AM
Nov 2018

Rep. Jerome Nadler, current ranking member of Judiciary, and so the expected chair of the Committee in January, laid out a marker tonight:

Trump makes any move to thwart the Mueller investigation, and any inquiries by the House, and "everything is on the table."

EVERYTHING...

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
11. Yep ... Trump is dead, politically.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:45 AM
Nov 2018

Yep ... Trump is dead, politically.

There are some ignorant types who will argue otherwise, but from the perspective of having lived through Nixon's presidency, Trump is already in the grave.

2naSalit

(86,600 posts)
12. I lived through that too
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:49 AM
Nov 2018

and this is so much worse. I can't wait to see his mug shot. But in reality, I honestly think that many will be going down with the cheato, many form Congress, and I think it will be via RICO indictment.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
13. I agree with you.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:56 AM
Nov 2018

I agree with you.

One things get going, the GOP is going to collapse, akin to the Whigs.

2naSalit

(86,600 posts)
14. I need to brush up on my history
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:11 AM
Nov 2018

about the Whigs, I don't remember much about that and suddenly, it's become relevant, maybe.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
16. Successful party for many years that fell apart when faced by the sectional crisis
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:15 AM
Nov 2018

Successful party for many years that fell apart when faced by the sectional crisis

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
20. Trump will be packing the courts with the worst people for 2 more years
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 03:07 AM
Nov 2018

And the effects will last for decades.
I don’t believe the House can stop him, I’d like to be wrong!

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
22. No Federal courts, no trials from Mueller indictments
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 03:22 AM
Nov 2018

No ultimate law enforcement of any kind on the Federal level, no trials for election fraud, no trials for corruption, I don’t see your point?

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
23. The point is the House has the power of the purse; without consensus candidates, the House can
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:51 AM
Nov 2018

The point is the House has the power of the purse; without consensus candidates, the House can gut GOP-favored pork.

NO ONE in politics is going to die to protect Donald Trump. Sessions was his first "mainstream" endorsement, and Trump has demonstrated that even that level of support is not enough.

Trump will die in prison.

2naSalit

(86,600 posts)
19. So much is in motion
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:24 AM
Nov 2018

at this point that the investigation isn't all in one place anymore. And even if the investigation might be halted, it is still there. So it gets taken up by the House in a couple months, the evidence and all that has been compiled up to now can't be destroyed or hidden from the cmte. The ball is rolling, it might be briefly interrupted by a pebble, but it's a boulder so it ain't gonna stop rolling until it gets to the bottom of the hill.

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