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Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:59 AM Nov 2018

A turnover win in NM. A LITTLE (SMALL) EGG ON NATIONAL MEDIA'S FACE

Torres Small pulls off upset in 2nd Congressional District race

Joshua Panas, Patrick Hayes
November 07, 2018 10:12 PM

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - In a stunning turn of events, Democrat Xochitl Torres Small, 33, has been declared the winner of New Mexico's 2nd Congressional District race.

"The votes have been counted and voices of people in New Mexico's 2nd Congressional District have been heard," Torres Small said to a small group of supporters in Las Cruces after learning she beat Republican Yvette Herrell.

The secretary of state's office said it still has 100 ballots that need to be hand tallied along with approximately 1,000 provisional ballots. However, even if Herrell was to get the majority of those votes, it would not be enough for her to catch Torres Small.
https://www.kob.com/new-mexico-news/xochitl-torres-small-takes-lead-in-2nd-congressional-district-race/5137351/


Herrell claimed victory Tuesday night; and national media agreed she had won; but we have paper ballots in New Mexico, instead of Diebold Machines, like most Republican states and we count every one of them.
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A turnover win in NM. A LITTLE (SMALL) EGG ON NATIONAL MEDIA'S FACE (Original Post) Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 OP
Thank you - Good news for the day!!! Laf.La.Dem. Nov 2018 #1
Would Fox News (and other big media) like a little peach as a side order! Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #2
In a very tight race, international media sources declared Harrell the winner Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #3
Other than my kicks, only ONE other comment? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #4
Yay! Just waking up and catching up. lostnfound Nov 2018 #6
BTW, this OP was posted 2 hours before the time reported at D.U. Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #28
I don't know how anyone found this in our local newspaper before 3:30 AM MTZ Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #40
LET TROLLS HIDE THIS O.P. LIKE THEY HID THE PREVIOUS THREADS BY; Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #41
How does an Opening Post get a small fire icon next to it on the General page? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #49
The media had its narrative of no Blue Wave Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #5
Also, we did exceedingly well watoos Nov 2018 #8
I'd heard that ten million more votes went to Democrats. calimary Nov 2018 #26
We won popular votes in every state. Gerrymandering and Diebold voting machines won the Senate Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #44
Now, media (and pehaps Trump-trolls) want to hide their screw-up at DU! Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #9
What does that mean? George II Nov 2018 #13
It means Google the Harrell, Small election and tell us who has correct results by12:44 PM MTZ Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #45
Ironically, CNN was the first network I saw that early on, adamantly squashed any notion of blue zonkers Nov 2018 #14
You mean N.M. watoos Nov 2018 #7
Are you asking if I forgot a period in the OP? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #10
I'm quite certain that's what you thought. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #12
What do you think? Perhaps the Opening Post should be... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #18
kick Mr. Quackers Nov 2018 #11
Where have you been? This was reported yesterday in many places: George II Nov 2018 #15
Where are retractions from Fox, MSNBC and other National media? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #16
I'm a New Mexico voter and very happy! BadgerMom Nov 2018 #17
Why do you think Kos removed it from the internet? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #20
SOOOOOO glad Steve Knight has been flipped OUT! calimary Nov 2018 #25
Xochitl defeated the woman I ran against 2 years ago duhneece Nov 2018 #60
538 has an article dated yesterday afternoon with the major races Danascot Nov 2018 #59
Thank you. BadgerMom Nov 2018 #64
And another one bites the dust! calimary Nov 2018 #19
Count as of this morning.... tokalion Nov 2018 #24
Welcome to DU, tokalion! And thanks for the stats! calimary Nov 2018 #34
I'd answer; but my high speed internet is unusually slow and times out... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #46
Entire Congressional Members Blue tokalion Nov 2018 #21
Plus justie18 Nov 2018 #22
Welcome to DU, justie18. calimary Nov 2018 #36
Yeah, I read Carville and Tapper Cha Nov 2018 #58
Good tiding for uncounted ballots in Florida and Arizona. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #23
Sweet! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #27
could you keep kicking this OP? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #30
I was going to post this story myself workinclasszero Nov 2018 #31
the REAL news is that EVERYONE should Google it to see what is still online Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #35
you can post internationally recognized media sources still reporting false election results... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #38
Proud of my NM Democratic Party! Ponietz Nov 2018 #29
I should add: Ponietz Nov 2018 #54
In the same district, openly gay sheriff elected RoadRunner Nov 2018 #32
Wow workinclasszero Nov 2018 #33
Lived in Las Cruces, while going to NMSU ... aggiesal Nov 2018 #37
I was @ Ladd S Gordon Waterfowl Sanctuary, in district 3 (Small vs Harrell) yesterday Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #39
Bosque del Apache Wildlife Refuge (same district) is rocking janx Nov 2018 #63
Crazy GOOD! Cha Nov 2018 #57
Nice, but freaking out that the major networks aren't all over reporting this PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #42
We ARE important and almost solid Blue! Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #43
We also sent the first Native American to DC, as a Congressperson Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #48
Sharice David, who just won Kansas's 3rd Congressional District PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #50
Our entire Congressional contingency is minority duhneece Nov 2018 #61
Kick dalton99a Nov 2018 #47
thanks for the kick. this needs more readers Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #52
Congratulations, NM! sheshe2 Nov 2018 #51
We also put one of the first Native American women into Congress Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #55
This was also one of the many FEMALES defeating a white male Republican. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #53
Congrats to Xochitl Torres Small! Cha Nov 2018 #56
The Power of Xochitl Torres Small: janx Nov 2018 #62
CHECK THIS O.P. ESPECIALLY THE REPLIES Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #65

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
2. Would Fox News (and other big media) like a little peach as a side order!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:08 AM
Nov 2018

Oh no, a typo! I meant to write impeachment, instead of "peach."

EAT IT TRUMP!

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
3. In a very tight race, international media sources declared Harrell the winner
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:24 AM
Nov 2018

Absentee votes had not been counted, or announced until now. I first heard it on a local rock station (102.5 FM) Coyote; and I could not find it online from larger media sources,at 7:00 AM, MTZ, 11/8/18. Our local TV station confirmed the results, online!

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
4. Other than my kicks, only ONE other comment?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:36 AM
Nov 2018

On new information posted on an uncounted, unreported, Democratic seat in the House? how odd...

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
28. BTW, this OP was posted 2 hours before the time reported at D.U.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:08 PM
Nov 2018

It is only 9:00 AM MTZ, here in Albuquerque, New Mexico, right now! Earlier today, I corrected my profile to reflect my location; but no update occurred on ANY of my posts! Odd isn't it?

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
40. I don't know how anyone found this in our local newspaper before 3:30 AM MTZ
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:59 PM
Nov 2018
But look how few comments and recommendations the Opening Post received:
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:24 AM

Star Member keopeli (2,732 posts)

Torres Small is apparent winner in 2nd District
Source: Albuquerque Journal

LAS CRUCES – Democrat Xochitl Torres Small is the new projected winner over Republican Yvette Herrell in the hotly contested race for southern New Mexico’s congressional seat following a hand count of 8,000 absentee ballots in Doña Ana County on Wednesday. She is the first woman and Latina to represent the state’s second Congressional District. Torres Small’s apparent victory means Democrats make up New Mexico’s entire congressional delegation – both senators and all three members of the U.S. House.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142196754


It only received 21 recommendations and 7 replies before it was lost, like Alice in Cyberland

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
41. LET TROLLS HIDE THIS O.P. LIKE THEY HID THE PREVIOUS THREADS BY;
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:13 PM
Nov 2018

Why so few recommendations or comments - from other DU members - on both Opening Posts?
Star Member @DU keopeli

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142196754

Johnny2X2X

(19,061 posts)
5. The media had its narrative of no Blue Wave
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:37 AM
Nov 2018

But here we are a couple days later and seemingly 90% of the late breaking races are going the Dems way, even for ones that were called for Reps.

This absolutely was a blue wave, the media was looking for an excuse to belittle it.

And this could work for Dems. By downplaying the blue wave, the Dem takeover across the country will be down played and we'll have 2020 to build towards. 2020 starts now.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. Also, we did exceedingly well
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:46 AM
Nov 2018

considering the gerrymandered districts.

7 million more people voted for Democrats in House elections.

More people also voted Democratic in the Senate elections.

Republicans are a minority party.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
26. I'd heard that ten million more votes went to Democrats.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:59 AM
Nov 2018

That was the overall number. I forget which talking head it was. But they pointed out that this was a progression from the three million more votes that Hillary got. This time, though, that large an advantage really paid off.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
9. Now, media (and pehaps Trump-trolls) want to hide their screw-up at DU!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:47 AM
Nov 2018

This Opening Post keeps running down the page fast, without the normal number of replies or recommendations! Google this report at 7:30 MTZ, on 11/8/18

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
45. It means Google the Harrell, Small election and tell us who has correct results by12:44 PM MTZ
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:47 PM
Nov 2018

Most of what I found, earlier, was local media, with more widely read international, online sources still wrong!

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
14. Ironically, CNN was the first network I saw that early on, adamantly squashed any notion of blue
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:14 AM
Nov 2018

wave. It was early, like four or five PM on west coast. And yes, it was demoralizing to heare it. I wish I could find the clip. The analyst delivered the message so difinitively.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
10. Are you asking if I forgot a period in the OP?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:56 AM
Nov 2018

Are their Chinese operatives also working undercover at Democratic Underground? I thought it was only Trump-trolls trying to hide this Opening Post.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
18. What do you think? Perhaps the Opening Post should be...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:29 AM
Nov 2018

A turnover win in NM!!! A LITTLE (SMALL) EGG ON NATIONAL MEDIA'S FACE
instead of that first headline, which was:
A turnover win in NM. A LITTLE (SMALL) EGG ON NATIONAL MEDIA'S FACE

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
16. Where are retractions from Fox, MSNBC and other National media?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

KOAT is a local, Albuquerque and surrounding area, media source

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
17. I'm a New Mexico voter and very happy!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:25 AM
Nov 2018

I’m not in soon-to-be-Rep. Small’s district, but it’s great that the State is such a deep shade of blue.

On a related topic, I couldn’t stand to watch the televised returns. My network of choice probably would have been MSNBC. The thought of Steve Kornacki hopping around like a chimp on crack and the talking heads (other than Rachel) creating ”trends” and interpreting voters’ messages that couldn’t be detected as returns came in, discouraged me. And I think 2016 traumatized me as well. I read a book and every so often I checked the Daily Kos live blog.

My other home, where my husband still votes, is in Thousand Oaks, CA, scene of last night’s shooting. Our home there is in Rep. Julia Brownley’s district, CA-26. As expected, she roundly beat Trumpster and underwear model Antonio Sabato. I was awaiting results of the Steve Knight-Katie Hill race in neighboring Simi Valley, which was one of the races highlighted nationally. After watching the close returns Tuesday, I was thrilled Katie Hill was declared the winner finally last night.

The MSM coverage leaves a lot to be desired. Fair elections require all votes be counted. That takes more time than tv wants it to take. The results can be exciting, but the process isn’t. I prefer full fair voting and vote counts. I wish the circus atmosphere would end.

I also wish there was a place that kept a running tally of how many Dem House seats have been won. Kos ran that election night, but now that’s been taken down. It would be nice to have a live count of how many we flipped and how large a majority Pelosi will have.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
20. Why do you think Kos removed it from the internet?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:42 AM
Nov 2018

EVERYONE should Google my Opening Post on 11/8/28 ASP. It is now 8:40 MTZ, in New Mexico, although the time on my posts is in Eastern Time zone, where I voted against Trump. I haven't bothered to change it at my profile at Democratic Underground

calimary

(81,238 posts)
25. SOOOOOO glad Steve Knight has been flipped OUT!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:53 AM
Nov 2018

At least three different Democratic groups or clubs of which I was a member - had sub-groups that were working like crazy to flip that district. It’s really gratifying to see how all that hard work paid off! They were at it from the get-go - as soon as those seven districts were targeted for potential flipping. Every weekend there was some carpool or group of people heading up the 405 to parts north - to register voters and talk up the idea of replacing him.

The work of the saints, for sure!

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
60. Xochitl defeated the woman I ran against 2 years ago
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:01 AM
Nov 2018

I knocked on over 200 doors for Xochitl. DU and you were so supportive of me. I can’t stop doing the happy dance 💃

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
59. 538 has an article dated yesterday afternoon with the major races
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:37 AM
Nov 2018

that haven't been called yet.

"As of 3:45 p.m. on Thursday, Nov. 8, news outlets have yet to project winners in 18 races: three for the U.S. Senate, 14 for the U.S. House and one for Georgia governor. These races have the potential to meaningfully change the narrative around this election — for example, Democrats could pick up 42 House seats instead of 29, or turn a disappointing showing in the Senate into a draw. Here’s the state of each undecided race — including our best estimate on who might prevail when all is said and done."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-16-races-still-too-close-to-call/


tokalion

(15 posts)
24. Count as of this morning....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:48 AM
Nov 2018

According to the New Mexico Secretary of State's website, Torres Small earned 99,440 votes while Herrell has 96,712 votes.

http://electionresults.sos.state.nm.us/resultsSW.aspx?type=FED&map=CTY

calimary

(81,238 posts)
34. Welcome to DU, tokalion! And thanks for the stats!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:58 PM
Nov 2018

WONDERFUL results! A tasty little after-dinner mint after a great "meal" on Tuesday night!

I wonder if there might be a few more?

Anybody know what the count is now - as far as districts flipped?

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
46. I'd answer; but my high speed internet is unusually slow and times out...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:50 PM
Nov 2018

It started this morning. I'm suddenly having problems with my search engine too.

tokalion

(15 posts)
21. Entire Congressional Members Blue
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:43 AM
Nov 2018

Just FYI...I live in New Mexico....our entire congressional delegation are now Democrats. Additionally, our entire state officials (governor, lieutenant governor, state secretary, etc.) and a huge majority of state representatives are Democrats. Walking out the door this morning, the air is definitely feels more fresh!

justie18

(169 posts)
22. Plus
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:45 AM
Nov 2018

There was Debbie Downer, James Carville, on MSNBC announcing 'NO Blue Wave' rather early on in the evening! I turned it off because of 2016 PTSD, but did turn it back on about a half hour later when House seats started to flip.

I remain extremely disappointed in the lack of coverage regarding voter suppression in GA and elsewhere on election day particularly on MSNBC. Where else would it be covered.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
36. Welcome to DU, justie18.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:03 PM
Nov 2018

It's tremendously frustrating to me, too, but I'm a partisan, and not the trying-hard-to-be-neutral journalist I used to have to be. One advantage of having retired from that kind of work. I can freely voice opinions now!

But I have to admit - sometimes the effort to be GENUINELY "fair and balanced" seems somewhat stupid to me now. Especially when there's one network out there that's CRAVENLY partisan, so much so that its "stars" are now PHYSICALLY out there at rallies, actively and brazenly cheerleading trump. They really should refine their slogan. "Fair and Balanced (to ONE SIDE ONLY)".

Seems to me, in the interest of TRUE and GENUINE "fairness" and "balance" maybe we NEED some outfit like MSNBC to push back - and be open about it. To counter-act the wrong-wing thrust of Pox Noise.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
35. the REAL news is that EVERYONE should Google it to see what is still online
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:03 PM
Nov 2018

A LOT of egg on major media faces, internationally, because they did not post retractions, of election day news reports on Small and Harrell; along with actual results in the US House of Representatives.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
38. you can post internationally recognized media sources still reporting false election results...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

and I will :kick: it, with a recommendation

Ponietz

(2,966 posts)
29. Proud of my NM Democratic Party!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:10 PM
Nov 2018

-Governor
-both senators
-all 3 representatives
-Secretary of State
-Attorney General
-State Auditor
-State House of Reps
-State Senate
-5 female Dems elected to the NM Court of Appeals!

There is much comfort in knowing my State is unified against fascism and terror.

Ponietz

(2,966 posts)
54. I should add:
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:37 PM
Nov 2018

-State Treasurer
-Commissioner of Public Lands
AND
-An Independent Ethics Commission!

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
37. Lived in Las Cruces, while going to NMSU ...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:07 PM
Nov 2018

I was really pi$$ed off when they called the district to (R).

Very proud this morning that it actually flipped to (D).
Way to go.

Thanks for all the hard work in flipping a favorite region of mine.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
39. I was @ Ladd S Gordon Waterfowl Sanctuary, in district 3 (Small vs Harrell) yesterday
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:30 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:34 PM - Edit history (3)

Have you ever seen all the Alaskan, migratory water-birds, protected and fed at this preserve?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
42. Nice, but freaking out that the major networks aren't all over reporting this
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:36 PM
Nov 2018

is silly.

I live in New Mexico. I love it here. But I understand quite clearly that this is a small and unimportant state in national politics.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
43. We ARE important and almost solid Blue!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:45 PM
Nov 2018

We also sent a new, unreported representative, who claims she is not a political insider to the House of Representatives. She will assuredly want to impeach Trump, after Republicans and others tried to "rob" her of glory!

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
48. We also sent the first Native American to DC, as a Congressperson
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:46 PM
Nov 2018

It is 2018, as the first Native American is finally elected to the House of Representatives, which is a disgrace to the USA!
It took a while for Native Americans to obtain some equality in the USA. Guess which state elected her... NEW MEXICO!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
50. Sharice David, who just won Kansas's 3rd Congressional District
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

is also the first Native American elected to Congress. Better yet, she defeated a four term incumbent. By nine points. Not to take anything away from Deb Haaland, but I used to live in that part of Kansas before I moved to NM, so I was also paying attention to that race.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
61. Our entire Congressional contingency is minority
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:06 AM
Nov 2018

Two strong women, Emerge graduates, to Washington. That horrible ALEC ‘Star’ gave her victory speech...and I have no empathy for her embarrassment.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
55. We also put one of the first Native American women into Congress
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 04:04 AM
Nov 2018

How many Native Americans have served in Congress?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
53. This was also one of the many FEMALES defeating a white male Republican.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:25 PM
Nov 2018

More Democratic and female representation!

Cha

(297,196 posts)
56. Congrats to Xochitl Torres Small!
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:32 AM
Nov 2018

The m$$$$m always has Egg on their face.. they also said I read that it "wasn't a blue wave".

They have a giant omelette on their collective mug!

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