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No details yet but being reported by multiple sources.
Update: As someone linked below this article has more details: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-day-after-sessions-resigned-reports-say-robert-mueller-has-begun-writing-his-final-russia-report/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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@renato_mariottiIm surprised that Mueller would write a final report without interviewing Trump or making a significant effort to do so. I wonder whether the appointment of Whitaker has something to do with this quick resolution.
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NEW: Mueller's team has begun writing its final report, multiple sources told CNN - @evanperez @PamelaBrownCNN @LauraAJarrett @SaraMurray https://cnn.it/2D86SGS
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Im surprised that Mueller would write a final report without interviewing Trump or making a significant effort to do so. I wonder whether the appointment of Whitaker has something to do with this quick resolution.
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Mueller knows Trump testimony not necessary. And targets rarely testify. And a court battle to get Trump testimony would be long, contentious and potentially unsuccessful. And Mueller might get fired if he took that tack. Smart move by Mueller.
11:00 AM - Nov 8, 2018
Muellers sweeping investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, as well as any crimes that arose during the course of that investigation, has resulted in numerous indictments and guilty pleas.
FSogol
(45,481 posts)OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)And then there's the S.Ct. - Kavanaugh says that a sitting President cannot be indicted.
Impeachment? Even if we have enuf people in the House to impeach him (I don't know if we do), that doesn't remove him from office. We don't have the Senate votes to impeach/remove him.
So I don't know. One step at a time.
peace frog
(5,609 posts)Brutal reality is, the numbers aren't promising for impeachment and Pelosi has declared it "off the table" in any event.
SC's conservative tilt makes it an unreliable avenue of support.
Continuance of Mueller investigation is in real peril at this time. He may issue the report, but there's no guarantee the entire contents will be made public, and plenty of reasons why parts of it will be kept secret.
So we'll see.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)I think Mueller and his team got everything under control.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Somethings gotta give folks. Will Whitaker make a move today?
Qutzupalotl
(14,307 posts)(No details at link yet, just the banner at top)
Qutzupalotl
(14,307 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)KPN
(15,643 posts)suffering from election fatigue and won't turn out for today's protests. They hope wrong!
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Cant wait for the local march at 5 today.
Life is great, intense and a total wonder!
And after the march a well-deserved glass of something my Irish and English immigrant ancestors would approve of!
KPN
(15,643 posts)We are the majority. And will ultimately win!
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)....but I'd speculate that the final report has been mostly complete for weeks, if not months, and they didn't want to release it before the election so as not to be accused of trying to influence the election. They're under no such constraints now.
I'd like to see Mueller hold back the report for some indefinite period and wait until Trump fires him, then suddenly release it on his way out the door like a poison pill.
Then, there's the matter of somehow getting it released from Congress so the public can see it. It's still possible the report won't see the light of day - at least until the Orange Asshole is out of office.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Attorneys knew the report was coming down. Trump panicked.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,601 posts)At the risk of obstruction charges, which Trump could pardon...this will not be simple...but still a BFD!
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)much of it was written before publication, as pertinent information came to light.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)My choice, for my own emotional well-being, is to trust that he's prepared for this.
When he learned of Sessions' departure yesterday...he likely said "yeah...ok", and got on with his work.
When he leaned Sessions was being replaced by a RW hack partisan...he like said "yeah...ok", and got on with his work.
And when said partisan hack takes steps to curtail his work...I believe he'll say "yeah...ok", and get on with his work.
Trump's single minded goal is to demolish everyone's trust in ALL government agencies except those who have pledged loyalty to him. Our job is to not fall for that chit. Not to follow/trust blindly...but to trust based on actions. I personally believe Mueller's actions over decades of public service have earned my trust so I believe, for my sanity, that he's got this one covered.
Don't know how, don't know what it looks like. That's why he's the special counsel and I'm not.
What's the phrase "Stay Calm and Keep Indicting".
niyad
(113,284 posts)says that anybody who thinks, or hopes, that Mueller is not prepared for EVERY contingency, is a fool.
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)Mueller and his team knew that election day was their hard deadline -- Trump might literally fire all of them the following day. The goal was to hold out until Democrats took control of at least the House, which would guarantee that the probe's work couldn't be buried without a trace.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)Basically shuting down the investigation, and then burying the report.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:54 PM - Edit history (2)
The report was being written all along. Those who know Mueller, worked with him said he is prepared for every contingency!
Merlot
(9,696 posts)The day that Mueller gets a new boss is the day that we're told he's writing the final report?
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)BTW, Whitaker was involved in a scam company. That came out today.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)If not, I am guessing that may come tomorrow, as other indictments seemed to have come on Fridays.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)1) Mueller and his team don't leak
2) In the past, several similar stories of imminent reports/indictments have fizzled out. When that happens, (a) it makes the media look bad and it amplifies the White House "fake news" message and (b) It will also give the impression that if something is coming out and then no report is forthcoming, it means that Trump and others are not guilty and that Mueller is taking too long and fishing for anything out there.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,340 posts)For stuff about Mueller's activities, I prefer the source be Mueller's activities.
calimary
(81,238 posts)personally designated and authorized spokesperson.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)of the speculative stuff relating to Mueller's work.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)he's been pretty good on Trump/Russia
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)by Howard Blum - early 1990s - about how the FBI took down John Gotti. The FBI at times kind of looked like the Keystone Kops, but it an FBI agent named Mouw, along with his team, persisted, and they eventually secured their convictions. Remember, no cell phones, no digital recordings. On balance, it was kind of remarkable.
Mueller made a bit of a cameo appearance as a federal prosecutor, and he certainly came across the way he has come across for decades. Professional, diligent, persistent, no-nonsense, etc. And he's consistently described that way today. In the language of the meme, he's the guy who, when challenged, tells someone to hold his beer and then does the impossible.
And all of that is good.
But I have to admit, along with a report, I sure would like to see a shitload more indictments. I doubt that he'll indict trump - I don't think Mueller is going to bring on a political shit storm - and maybe that's what the report is all about. But it would be great to see indictments for Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric, Stone. Sessions would be a bonus, as would the Russian congressman, Rohrabacker, and maybe Nunes, and then some more of the Russians involved in the mid-2016 meetings.
niyad
(113,284 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)but it's entirely possible this report will not be aimed directly at Trump for any wrongdoing.
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)As for a Trump interview, Trump's lawyers would not agree to let him be interviewed. There were conversations with different Trump lawyers over months. He DID answer some questions in writing (or rather, his lawyers did).
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Trump testimony not necessary. And targets rarely testify.
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)OldManTarHeel
(435 posts)This is leaked news and at no time whatsoever has Mueller leaked anything over the past 18 months. This is just more WH drama from the king of lies . .
Stargleamer
(1,989 posts)then it wasn't worth it. All along, I wanted Mueller to be completely thorough, as anything less would mean that Trump escapes the consequences.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)He said that Mueller has been writing the story of Trump's corruption/criminality through the indictments of the others. And so even if Trump is not INDICTED himself, his corruption and crimes are laid bare for the world to see and condemn. That seems a terrific strategy. There would be nothing for Trump to fight, if he is not subpoenaed, not indicted. And yet he would be ruined by the evidence provided in the indictments of others.