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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:47 AM Nov 2018

CNN Breaking: Mueller preparing final report (UPDATE)

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)

No details yet but being reported by multiple sources.

Update: As someone linked below this article has more details: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-day-after-sessions-resigned-reports-say-robert-mueller-has-begun-writing-his-final-russia-report/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Renato Mariotti

@renato_mariottiI’m surprised that Mueller would write a final report without interviewing Trump or making a significant effort to do so. I wonder whether the appointment of Whitaker has something to do with this quick resolution.
Adam Levine

@cnnadam
NEW: Mueller's team has begun writing its final report, multiple sources told CNN - @evanperez @PamelaBrownCNN @LauraAJarrett @SaraMurray https://cnn.it/2D86SGS

Renato Mariotti

@renato_mariotti
· 18m
I’m surprised that Mueller would write a final report without interviewing Trump or making a significant effort to do so. I wonder whether the appointment of Whitaker has something to do with this quick resolution.

Ross Garber ⚖️

@rossgarber
Mueller knows Trump testimony not necessary. And targets rarely testify. And a court battle to get Trump testimony would be long, contentious and potentially unsuccessful. And Mueller might get fired if he took that tack. Smart move by Mueller.
11:00 AM - Nov 8, 2018

Mueller’s sweeping investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, as well as any crimes that arose during the course of that investigation, has resulted in numerous indictments and guilty pleas.
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CNN Breaking: Mueller preparing final report (UPDATE) (Original Post) berni_mccoy Nov 2018 OP
LOL, Trumpy and his ilk are going down! FSogol Nov 2018 #1
I hope Pence is indicted too OMGWTF Nov 2018 #21
I wouldn't be so sure. If there are no indictments on Trump filed, then.... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #31
Exactly peace frog Nov 2018 #35
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #36
That seems quick Roland99 Nov 2018 #2
what indictments coming down??? bdamomma Nov 2018 #3
Breathing deeply. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #4
Link Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #5
Better link Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #10
I hope so because time is short still_one Nov 2018 #6
Hence Whitaker. They knew this was coming. They also are hoping that the resistance is KPN Nov 2018 #7
Are you kidding? A good night's rest and Irish breakfast tea is all I need! DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #25
Damn straight. We won't go away. We won't give in. KPN Nov 2018 #44
This is a total guess... SpankMe Nov 2018 #8
I think Trump's True Blue American Nov 2018 #17
Remember, the report now goes to Whitaker, who can suppress it Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #28
Like newspaper obituaries... BadgerMom Nov 2018 #30
This ain't Mueller's first rodeo... CincyDem Nov 2018 #9
a prosecutor (I think, wasn't paying close attention) who has worked with Mueller for years, niyad Nov 2018 #22
I think it's likely the final report(s) is already written Azathoth Nov 2018 #11
Good. The sooner the better. honest.abe Nov 2018 #12
Did whitacre order Mueller to start writing report? Merlot Nov 2018 #13
No True Blue American Nov 2018 #18
I find the timing odd/concidental Merlot Nov 2018 #41
I doubt that it came from Mueller True Blue American Nov 2018 #42
Does this also mean no indictments for Stone, Junior and Kushner? Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #14
Friday afternoon? True Blue American Nov 2018 #19
DON'T BELIEVE IT NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #15
thanks Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #16
Excellent reminder. The only source that counts is Mueller himself, or his own calimary Nov 2018 #20
Rachel Maddow said this many moons ago. DO NOT BELIEVE any bullwinkle428 Nov 2018 #39
Seth Abramson has been saying the same NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #40
Neither do I. True Blue American Nov 2018 #43
I read a book called Gangland matt819 Nov 2018 #23
from a leak-proof investigation, we suddenly have leaks? really???? niyad Nov 2018 #24
Don't throw anything at me qazplm135 Nov 2018 #26
May want to place this story next to those about Jr. and Stone about to be indicted. Sneederbunk Nov 2018 #27
So Mueller knows it's over. Ready or not. Or maybe was told to issue a final report? Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #29
Whats that Danish smell in the air??????? Cryptoad Nov 2018 #32
KEY PASSAGE - "Trump testimony not necessary. And targets rarely testify. " Roland99 Nov 2018 #33
Read on twitter this morning to beware this news as it's info from the White House, not Mueller. iluvtennis Nov 2018 #34
I'll Agree w/ iluvtennis . . OldManTarHeel Nov 2018 #37
If this isn't sufficiently thorough enough Stargleamer Nov 2018 #38
Frank figluzi (sp) had a theory tonight. Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #45

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. I wouldn't be so sure. If there are no indictments on Trump filed, then....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:19 PM
Nov 2018

And then there's the S.Ct. - Kavanaugh says that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

Impeachment? Even if we have enuf people in the House to impeach him (I don't know if we do), that doesn't remove him from office. We don't have the Senate votes to impeach/remove him.

So I don't know. One step at a time.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
35. Exactly
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:33 PM
Nov 2018

Brutal reality is, the numbers aren't promising for impeachment and Pelosi has declared it "off the table" in any event.
SC's conservative tilt makes it an unreliable avenue of support.
Continuance of Mueller investigation is in real peril at this time. He may issue the report, but there's no guarantee the entire contents will be made public, and plenty of reasons why parts of it will be kept secret.
So we'll see.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
7. Hence Whitaker. They knew this was coming. They also are hoping that the resistance is
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:55 AM
Nov 2018

suffering from election fatigue and won't turn out for today's protests. They hope wrong!

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
25. Are you kidding? A good night's rest and Irish breakfast tea is all I need!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:56 PM
Nov 2018

Can’t wait for the local march at 5 today.

Life is great, intense and a total wonder!

And after the march a well-deserved glass of something my Irish and English immigrant ancestors would approve of!

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
8. This is a total guess...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:58 AM
Nov 2018

....but I'd speculate that the final report has been mostly complete for weeks, if not months, and they didn't want to release it before the election so as not to be accused of trying to influence the election. They're under no such constraints now.

I'd like to see Mueller hold back the report for some indefinite period and wait until Trump fires him, then suddenly release it on his way out the door like a poison pill.

Then, there's the matter of somehow getting it released from Congress so the public can see it. It's still possible the report won't see the light of day - at least until the Orange Asshole is out of office.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
28. Remember, the report now goes to Whitaker, who can suppress it
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:16 PM
Nov 2018

At the risk of obstruction charges, which Trump could pardon...this will not be simple...but still a BFD!

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
30. Like newspaper obituaries...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:18 PM
Nov 2018

much of it was written before publication, as pertinent information came to light.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
9. This ain't Mueller's first rodeo...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:58 AM
Nov 2018


My choice, for my own emotional well-being, is to trust that he's prepared for this.

When he learned of Sessions' departure yesterday...he likely said "yeah...ok", and got on with his work.

When he leaned Sessions was being replaced by a RW hack partisan...he like said "yeah...ok", and got on with his work.

And when said partisan hack takes steps to curtail his work...I believe he'll say "yeah...ok", and get on with his work.

Trump's single minded goal is to demolish everyone's trust in ALL government agencies except those who have pledged loyalty to him. Our job is to not fall for that chit. Not to follow/trust blindly...but to trust based on actions. I personally believe Mueller's actions over decades of public service have earned my trust so I believe, for my sanity, that he's got this one covered.

Don't know how, don't know what it looks like. That's why he's the special counsel and I'm not.

What's the phrase "Stay Calm and Keep Indicting".

niyad

(113,284 posts)
22. a prosecutor (I think, wasn't paying close attention) who has worked with Mueller for years,
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:45 PM
Nov 2018

says that anybody who thinks, or hopes, that Mueller is not prepared for EVERY contingency, is a fool.

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
11. I think it's likely the final report(s) is already written
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:12 PM
Nov 2018

Mueller and his team knew that election day was their hard deadline -- Trump might literally fire all of them the following day. The goal was to hold out until Democrats took control of at least the House, which would guarantee that the probe's work couldn't be buried without a trace.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
13. Did whitacre order Mueller to start writing report?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:15 PM
Nov 2018

Basically shuting down the investigation, and then burying the report.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
18. No
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:29 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:54 PM - Edit history (2)

The report was being written all along. Those who know Mueller, worked with him said he is prepared for every contingency!

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
41. I find the timing odd/concidental
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:18 PM
Nov 2018

The day that Mueller gets a new boss is the day that we're told he's writing the final report?

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
14. Does this also mean no indictments for Stone, Junior and Kushner?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:15 PM
Nov 2018

If not, I am guessing that may come tomorrow, as other indictments seemed to have come on Fridays.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. DON'T BELIEVE IT
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:17 PM
Nov 2018

1) Mueller and his team don't leak

2) In the past, several similar stories of imminent reports/indictments have fizzled out. When that happens, (a) it makes the media look bad and it amplifies the White House "fake news" message and (b) It will also give the impression that if something is coming out and then no report is forthcoming, it means that Trump and others are not guilty and that Mueller is taking too long and fishing for anything out there.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
20. Excellent reminder. The only source that counts is Mueller himself, or his own
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:41 PM
Nov 2018

personally designated and authorized spokesperson.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
39. Rachel Maddow said this many moons ago. DO NOT BELIEVE any
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:58 PM
Nov 2018

of the speculative stuff relating to Mueller's work.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
23. I read a book called Gangland
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:46 PM
Nov 2018

by Howard Blum - early 1990s - about how the FBI took down John Gotti. The FBI at times kind of looked like the Keystone Kops, but it an FBI agent named Mouw, along with his team, persisted, and they eventually secured their convictions. Remember, no cell phones, no digital recordings. On balance, it was kind of remarkable.

Mueller made a bit of a cameo appearance as a federal prosecutor, and he certainly came across the way he has come across for decades. Professional, diligent, persistent, no-nonsense, etc. And he's consistently described that way today. In the language of the meme, he's the guy who, when challenged, tells someone to hold his beer and then does the impossible.

And all of that is good.

But I have to admit, along with a report, I sure would like to see a shitload more indictments. I doubt that he'll indict trump - I don't think Mueller is going to bring on a political shit storm - and maybe that's what the report is all about. But it would be great to see indictments for Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric, Stone. Sessions would be a bonus, as would the Russian congressman, Rohrabacker, and maybe Nunes, and then some more of the Russians involved in the mid-2016 meetings.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
26. Don't throw anything at me
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:06 PM
Nov 2018

but it's entirely possible this report will not be aimed directly at Trump for any wrongdoing.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. So Mueller knows it's over. Ready or not. Or maybe was told to issue a final report?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:16 PM
Nov 2018

As for a Trump interview, Trump's lawyers would not agree to let him be interviewed. There were conversations with different Trump lawyers over months. He DID answer some questions in writing (or rather, his lawyers did).

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
33. KEY PASSAGE - "Trump testimony not necessary. And targets rarely testify. "
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:21 PM
Nov 2018

Trump testimony not necessary. And targets rarely testify.

OldManTarHeel

(435 posts)
37. I'll Agree w/ iluvtennis . .
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:43 PM
Nov 2018

This is leaked news and at no time whatsoever has Mueller leaked anything over the past 18 months. This is just more WH drama from the king of lies . .

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
38. If this isn't sufficiently thorough enough
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:56 PM
Nov 2018

then it wasn't worth it. All along, I wanted Mueller to be completely thorough, as anything less would mean that Trump escapes the consequences.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
45. Frank figluzi (sp) had a theory tonight.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:44 AM
Nov 2018

He said that Mueller has been writing the story of Trump's corruption/criminality through the indictments of the others. And so even if Trump is not INDICTED himself, his corruption and crimes are laid bare for the world to see and condemn. That seems a terrific strategy. There would be nothing for Trump to fight, if he is not subpoenaed, not indicted. And yet he would be ruined by the evidence provided in the indictments of others.

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