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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums71 Percent of Trump-Endorsed Candidates Lost Their Elections
Twitter user Ally Maynard painstakingly compiled a list of 55 House, Senate, and gubernatorial candidates President Trump either held rallies for or endorsed on Twitter, and found that 39 of them lost, meaning 70.9 percent of candidates President Trump endorsed were defeated.
https://gritpost.com/71-percent-trump-candidates-elections/?fbclid=IwAR2_QSAjnZU1utmaF5_Ake7CS380F3TNOaWCLHNken0KmKMbQ-OjGHUrQHM
John Fante
(3,479 posts)- some idiot
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Thats making America GRATE again
Cha
(297,196 posts)be doing some serious reflecting now on changing up his propaganda.
The majority isn't buying it.
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)~~snort~~
keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)charliea
(260 posts)They sure don't want it now. They're probably scheduling de-lousing baths/dips to wash off tRump's cooties in hopes that they can salvage their political careers.
It won't work...
#RESIST
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)"If they accept the embrace..."
Like he's some kind of fucking vampire...
catbyte
(34,376 posts)The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Just saying.
malaise
(268,976 posts)This should have 500 recs
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)The party's just starting.
malaise
(268,976 posts)Their party is over
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)Daddy's Boy Donnie didn't do so well, and looks worse. Tantrums should be televised daily.
malaise
(268,976 posts)There was no red wave.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)Found this Paul J. Richards photo on https://www.motherjones.com just now:
"I shit my pants just a little bitty bit."
malaise
(268,976 posts)monster.
catbyte
(34,376 posts)[IMG][/IMG]
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)again.
unc70
(6,113 posts)I believe a couple more House seats have flipped now flipped. Several more are possible. Plus AZ, maybe FL, even a chance in GA.
tanyev
(42,552 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,418 posts)oldlibdem
(330 posts)I hope they all get voted out in 2020.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)trickyguy
(769 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)When you look at those numbers, all the smoke and mirrors and BS Trump is peddling goes out the window and leaves the stark reality.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....they endorsed 287 candidates, 199 of which lost. That's 69.3%.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Every Our Revolution endorsed candidate in the recent general election was also endorsed by every one of us here at DU. Including you.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The significant distinction being made here is with your use of the words "general election". At that point, they were already the party's nominee and it's assumed that loyal Democrats will (by default) "support" and/or vote for the party's nominee by virtue of their party association.
I'd also take issue the word choice and the assertion that GeorgeII actually "endorsed" either of them. Supporting them by default as the party's nominee (and voting for them where applicable) is hardly what I'd consider to be an actual "endorsement".
It's unclear to me what good purpose it serves to go down this path. Is it an attempt to refute the figures that George II posted? Or is it just to distract?
In any case. none of this changes the facts on the ground and the dismal showing that "Our Revolution" and "Justice Democrats" had with regard to their preferred candidates.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)", but we do expect members to be generally progressive and to support Democrats at election time -- remember that and respect it when posting."
Your comment:
"The significant distinction being made here is with your use of the words "general election". At that point, they were already the party's nominee and it's assumed that loyal Democrats will (by default) "support" and/or vote for the party's nominee by virtue of their party association. "
In the general, we endorse, or "support" if you prefer, every Dem running for office. It is understood that in the primaries, it's pretty much open season and one can attack, within reason, Dem candidates one doesn't support or endorse. An example is one long time member here who back in 2008 was quite vicious with her attacks on Hillary. Calling her "hysterical" and making fun of her "cackle". But that was okay because it was during the primaries.
So, in regards to Our Revolution's track record, I think it would be fair to point out the failure rate during the primary but for the general, all of us should have hoped for, and worked for, a 100% success rate.
I don't know why George II is bringing up Our Revolution candidates and their success rates when the enemy is Trump and in a thread about Trump and his success rate.
George II
(67,782 posts)I do, and have for decades. Are you implying that I don't or haven't done so?
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Were you sad that the percentage wasn't higher? That all Our Revolution endorsed Dems who became the party nominee didn't win on Nov 6th?
George II
(67,782 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Here's hoping OR endorsed candidates Gillum and Abrams come back and win!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to include mainstream Democrats like Stacey and Gillum seems like it'd be a GOOD thing -- ?? Remember 2016 with 3 candidates across the entire nation endorsed by Sanders? I don't remember, but whether they all won or all lost, that didn't work very well for developing the power to influence legislatures.
After that, they tried loosening the ideological requirements a bit, but again it's just not a way to grow enough power to pocket some IOUs and even get to vote on legislation.
Now, they're endorsing a whole bunch of Democrats who already are or intend to work within the mainstream, and that more didn't win suggests they're still endorsing some candidates specifically because they share their ideology, even if they're unlikely to win. Next time for those maybe, right?
This week, as a result of endorsing mainstream Democrats, OR is able to claim dozens of winning candidates as their own and 88 more representatives in office will always take their calls and want to be supported again in 2 years.
It might sound too much like sausage making to idealists, but that's how dissenting factions grow enough of a voice in the halls of power to be able to make a difference. So, congrats to OR on both its learning curve and being able to claim 88 victories in 2018.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)A fault with Cindy Sheehan is that she remained ideological rigid, wouldn't adapt and compromise to expand her support base and has long ago faded into the shadows.
George II
(67,782 posts)....in their respective primaries, too.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)There are still 20 races that involve a OR endorsed candidate that are undecided.
We both wish that rate would be 100%. Don't you agree?
George II
(67,782 posts)HERE is an illuminating interview from last year of newly installed president of Our Revolution, which shows that they, Nina Turner and, as she refers to him, "the Senator", are not necessarily the friends of Democrats. These are HER words, speaking on behalf of Our Revolution and "the Senator".
https://www.thenation.com/article/nina-turner-it-is-not-our-job-to-fit-into-the-democratic-establishment/
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)I'm on my phone right now so I can't easily access the info again but I believe there were 120 some OR endorsed candidates that won Tuesday and 114 or so that lost. Then there's about 20 candidates in races that haven't been decided yet.
Later tonight when I can access my laptop, I can give you exact numbers. If I can cut and paste their names, I'll do that to.
George II
(67,782 posts)They actually endorsed 178 candidates whose races were decided on November 6. 74 won (a few of them were unopposed), 104 lost. That's 41.5%.
https://ourrevolution.com/results/
There are still 18 elections pending:
https://ourrevolution.com/candidates/
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)I included the ballot measures.
But we both wish the success rate was 100%.
George II
(67,782 posts)...that they are willing to support non-Democrats (who obviously would be running against Democrats in that case) seemingly taking credit for some of the victories we saw on Tuesday. I would venture to guess that without their support perhaps we would have had more victories on Tuesday. With a success rate of ~40% on Tuesday (and ~30% overall in 2018), that might logically be true.
To me, with their openly hostile attitude toward the Democratic Party*, they're probably doing more harm than good.
*Very interesting interview of Our Revolution's president here:
https://www.thenation.com/article/nina-turner-it-is-not-our-job-to-fit-into-the-democratic-establishment/
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)During the primaries, I looked at all the candidates in Michigan that OR endorsed and I wouldn't have a problem voting for any of them in the general if they were the nominee.
but a whole lot of fundraising emails were sent before then. Oh and does endorse mean support? Asking for a friend.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)n/t
fgeorge468
(17 posts)I am so glad that everyone is finally starting to see Trump for the horrible person he is. Hopefully soon we can get this country back on track.
catbyte
(34,376 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)If we had the numbers of Rethugs leaving the Senate this season, we would have taken it, too.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Hekate
(90,674 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,916 posts)Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)That percentage has to have creeped up a bit from late decisions.
Has anyone pointed Diaper Donnie to that article or Ally Maynard's twitter thread?
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Thank GOD he endorsed his asshat friend Kobach who went down in flames for Governor of Kansas