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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:25 PM Nov 2018

71 Percent of Trump-Endorsed Candidates Lost Their Elections

Twitter user Ally Maynard painstakingly compiled a list of 55 House, Senate, and gubernatorial candidates President Trump either held rallies for or endorsed on Twitter, and found that 39 of them lost, meaning 70.9 percent of candidates President Trump endorsed were defeated.

https://gritpost.com/71-percent-trump-candidates-elections/?fbclid=IwAR2_QSAjnZU1utmaF5_Ake7CS380F3TNOaWCLHNken0KmKMbQ-OjGHUrQHM

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71 Percent of Trump-Endorsed Candidates Lost Their Elections (Original Post) book_worm Nov 2018 OP
"Trump is an evil genius! Republicans are extremely likely to retain the house!" John Fante Nov 2018 #1
Wait! Over 70% of what Trump touches turns to shit? DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #25
Yeah, I know who said that and he should Cha Nov 2018 #68
Wait...I Thought They All Lost Because They Didn't Want Trump's Embrace...? The_Counsel Nov 2018 #2
Some embraced Donald so much that Ivanka got jealous. keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #14
It's a question of timing... charliea Nov 2018 #21
Allow Me to Respond to Your Post Thusly: The_Counsel Nov 2018 #69
Oh my god...him saying that made me queasy. forgotmylogin Nov 2018 #22
Or Don Corleone. catbyte Nov 2018 #33
Maybe they didn't want KFC grease and Big Mac special sauce smeared on their backs The Genealogist Nov 2018 #34
The party is over malaise Nov 2018 #3
hoist a glass to Ally! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #5
LOL malaise Nov 2018 #6
Trumpie-poo looks like a bad hangover on cheap wine Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #8
He's pissed - one thing is for sure malaise Nov 2018 #9
found this Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #19
That's the picture of an enraged malaise Nov 2018 #23
Oh, dear God... catbyte Nov 2018 #32
that's an improvement! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #36
Bragging about his mushroom cap..... SergeStorms Nov 2018 #37
Number of losses continues to grow unc70 Nov 2018 #4
71, 17....what's the difference? tanyev Nov 2018 #7
What a stable genius he is! llmart Nov 2018 #10
Hey - Orange Douche - it's called KARMA and it's coming like a freight train and u are on the tracks NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #11
Good... oldlibdem Nov 2018 #12
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2018 #13
Just goes to show you what "my large brain" knows about how important his brand is. Idiot. trickyguy Nov 2018 #15
k&r DesertRat Nov 2018 #16
Math major here and still LOVE how CLARIFYING numbers are. pdsimdars Nov 2018 #17
Loser. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2018 #18
Slightly off topic, but along those lines, go to Our Revolution's website, under "2018 Results".... George II Nov 2018 #20
Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams are two candidates Our Revolution endorsed. Kaleva Nov 2018 #26
LOL! Sorry... No, I do not believe that's an entirely accurate statement.... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #35
From the TOS Kaleva Nov 2018 #38
The "enemy" is anyone who does not unequivocally support Democrats, ALL Democrats. George II Nov 2018 #42
So, what was you post #20 about then? Kaleva Nov 2018 #44
I didn't see any subjectivity on my part in post #20, did you? George II Nov 2018 #47
So your post was just a free thinking exercise. That's fine. Kaleva Nov 2018 #48
Kaleva, that OR has enlarged their endorsements Hortensis Nov 2018 #54
A good post! Kaleva Nov 2018 #57
I supported both of them in the recent general election. BTW, I also supported both of them.... George II Nov 2018 #41
The success rate of OR endorsed candidates on Nov. 6th was 52% Kaleva Nov 2018 #45
No it wasn't, but I'm not going to quibble about it. George II Nov 2018 #50
Do the math. The success rate of OR endorsed candidates on Nov 6th was 52% Kaleva Nov 2018 #53
I did the math: George II Nov 2018 #58
You are correct. Kaleva Nov 2018 #59
Thanks. Of course we do, but I resent an organization that has openly stated... George II Nov 2018 #60
I guess we'll just agree that I'm more tolerant of them then you are Kaleva Nov 2018 #66
UH Oh Me. Nov 2018 #64
But but but...Trump said on national tv that they had a winning day, except for the House! nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #24
Hey Diaper Donnie -- suck it, fucko... Blue Owl Nov 2018 #27
Make America Great Again fgeorge468 Nov 2018 #28
Sounds about right. That's probably closer to his actual approval rating anyway. catbyte Nov 2018 #29
Wow! And that's the real story! Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #30
I wish even more would have embraced him. world wide wally Nov 2018 #31
Like the man said ... "Everything Trump Touches Dies" FakeNoose Nov 2018 #39
LOSER! lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #40
That was before McSally lol grantcart Nov 2018 #43
Aw. Isn't that special... Hekate Nov 2018 #46
K&R BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #49
What is flipside of this.. How Many of the pukes not endorsed lost as well? Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #51
what's the percentage now? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #52
Dirty Donny*s degenerate republican loser squad Achilleaze Nov 2018 #55
2020 IS COMING GOP!!!! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #56
... Scurrilous Nov 2018 #61
That could go higher with an Nelson win and an Arizona win.... Bengus81 Nov 2018 #62
"Winnings just another word for nothing left to lose!" struggle4progress Nov 2018 #63
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #65
Thank You, book_worm! Cha Nov 2018 #67

Cha

(297,196 posts)
68. Yeah, I know who said that and he should
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:04 AM
Nov 2018

be doing some serious reflecting now on changing up his propaganda.

The majority isn't buying it.

charliea

(260 posts)
21. It's a question of timing...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:24 PM
Nov 2018

They sure don't want it now. They're probably scheduling de-lousing baths/dips to wash off tRump's cooties in hopes that they can salvage their political careers.

It won't work...




#RESIST

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
22. Oh my god...him saying that made me queasy.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:24 PM
Nov 2018

"If they accept the embrace..."



Like he's some kind of fucking vampire...

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
8. Trumpie-poo looks like a bad hangover on cheap wine
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:41 PM
Nov 2018

Daddy's Boy Donnie didn't do so well, and looks worse. Tantrums should be televised daily.

unc70

(6,113 posts)
4. Number of losses continues to grow
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:17 PM
Nov 2018

I believe a couple more House seats have flipped now flipped. Several more are possible. Plus AZ, maybe FL, even a chance in GA.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. Math major here and still LOVE how CLARIFYING numbers are.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:19 PM
Nov 2018

When you look at those numbers, all the smoke and mirrors and BS Trump is peddling goes out the window and leaves the stark reality.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Slightly off topic, but along those lines, go to Our Revolution's website, under "2018 Results"....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:23 PM
Nov 2018

....they endorsed 287 candidates, 199 of which lost. That's 69.3%.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
26. Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams are two candidates Our Revolution endorsed.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:34 PM
Nov 2018

Every Our Revolution endorsed candidate in the recent general election was also endorsed by every one of us here at DU. Including you.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. LOL! Sorry... No, I do not believe that's an entirely accurate statement....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:07 PM
Nov 2018
...endorsed by every one of us here at DU. Including you.
LOL! Sorry... No, I do not believe that's an entirely accurate statement. In my opinion it's a bit misleading to make such a claim.

The significant distinction being made here is with your use of the words "general election". At that point, they were already the party's nominee and it's assumed that loyal Democrats will (by default) "support" and/or vote for the party's nominee by virtue of their party association.

I'd also take issue the word choice and the assertion that GeorgeII actually "endorsed" either of them. Supporting them by default as the party's nominee (and voting for them where applicable) is hardly what I'd consider to be an actual "endorsement".

It's unclear to me what good purpose it serves to go down this path. Is it an attempt to refute the figures that George II posted? Or is it just to distract?

In any case. none of this changes the facts on the ground and the dismal showing that "Our Revolution" and "Justice Democrats" had with regard to their preferred candidates.





Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
38. From the TOS
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:28 PM
Nov 2018

", but we do expect members to be generally progressive and to support Democrats at election time -- remember that and respect it when posting."

Your comment:

"The significant distinction being made here is with your use of the words "general election". At that point, they were already the party's nominee and it's assumed that loyal Democrats will (by default) "support" and/or vote for the party's nominee by virtue of their party association. "

In the general, we endorse, or "support" if you prefer, every Dem running for office. It is understood that in the primaries, it's pretty much open season and one can attack, within reason, Dem candidates one doesn't support or endorse. An example is one long time member here who back in 2008 was quite vicious with her attacks on Hillary. Calling her "hysterical" and making fun of her "cackle". But that was okay because it was during the primaries.

So, in regards to Our Revolution's track record, I think it would be fair to point out the failure rate during the primary but for the general, all of us should have hoped for, and worked for, a 100% success rate.

I don't know why George II is bringing up Our Revolution candidates and their success rates when the enemy is Trump and in a thread about Trump and his success rate.

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. The "enemy" is anyone who does not unequivocally support Democrats, ALL Democrats.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:59 PM
Nov 2018

I do, and have for decades. Are you implying that I don't or haven't done so?

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
44. So, what was you post #20 about then?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:10 PM
Nov 2018

Were you sad that the percentage wasn't higher? That all Our Revolution endorsed Dems who became the party nominee didn't win on Nov 6th?

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
48. So your post was just a free thinking exercise. That's fine.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:26 PM
Nov 2018

Here's hoping OR endorsed candidates Gillum and Abrams come back and win!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. Kaleva, that OR has enlarged their endorsements
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:45 PM
Nov 2018

to include mainstream Democrats like Stacey and Gillum seems like it'd be a GOOD thing -- ?? Remember 2016 with 3 candidates across the entire nation endorsed by Sanders? I don't remember, but whether they all won or all lost, that didn't work very well for developing the power to influence legislatures.

After that, they tried loosening the ideological requirements a bit, but again it's just not a way to grow enough power to pocket some IOUs and even get to vote on legislation.

Now, they're endorsing a whole bunch of Democrats who already are or intend to work within the mainstream, and that more didn't win suggests they're still endorsing some candidates specifically because they share their ideology, even if they're unlikely to win. Next time for those maybe, right?

This week, as a result of endorsing mainstream Democrats, OR is able to claim dozens of winning candidates as their own and 88 more representatives in office will always take their calls and want to be supported again in 2 years.

It might sound too much like sausage making to idealists, but that's how dissenting factions grow enough of a voice in the halls of power to be able to make a difference. So, congrats to OR on both its learning curve and being able to claim 88 victories in 2018.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
57. A good post!
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:54 PM
Nov 2018

A fault with Cindy Sheehan is that she remained ideological rigid, wouldn't adapt and compromise to expand her support base and has long ago faded into the shadows.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. I supported both of them in the recent general election. BTW, I also supported both of them....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:55 PM
Nov 2018

....in their respective primaries, too.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
45. The success rate of OR endorsed candidates on Nov. 6th was 52%
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:13 PM
Nov 2018

There are still 20 races that involve a OR endorsed candidate that are undecided.

We both wish that rate would be 100%. Don't you agree?

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. No it wasn't, but I'm not going to quibble about it.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:29 PM
Nov 2018

HERE is an illuminating interview from last year of newly installed president of Our Revolution, which shows that they, Nina Turner and, as she refers to him, "the Senator", are not necessarily the friends of Democrats. These are HER words, speaking on behalf of Our Revolution and "the Senator".

https://www.thenation.com/article/nina-turner-it-is-not-our-job-to-fit-into-the-democratic-establishment/

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
53. Do the math. The success rate of OR endorsed candidates on Nov 6th was 52%
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:38 PM
Nov 2018

I'm on my phone right now so I can't easily access the info again but I believe there were 120 some OR endorsed candidates that won Tuesday and 114 or so that lost. Then there's about 20 candidates in races that haven't been decided yet.

Later tonight when I can access my laptop, I can give you exact numbers. If I can cut and paste their names, I'll do that to.

George II

(67,782 posts)
58. I did the math:
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:05 PM
Nov 2018

They actually endorsed 178 candidates whose races were decided on November 6. 74 won (a few of them were unopposed), 104 lost. That's 41.5%.

https://ourrevolution.com/results/

There are still 18 elections pending:

https://ourrevolution.com/candidates/

George II

(67,782 posts)
60. Thanks. Of course we do, but I resent an organization that has openly stated...
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:33 PM
Nov 2018

...that they are willing to support non-Democrats (who obviously would be running against Democrats in that case) seemingly taking credit for some of the victories we saw on Tuesday. I would venture to guess that without their support perhaps we would have had more victories on Tuesday. With a success rate of ~40% on Tuesday (and ~30% overall in 2018), that might logically be true.

To me, with their openly hostile attitude toward the Democratic Party*, they're probably doing more harm than good.

*Very interesting interview of Our Revolution's president here:

https://www.thenation.com/article/nina-turner-it-is-not-our-job-to-fit-into-the-democratic-establishment/

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
66. I guess we'll just agree that I'm more tolerant of them then you are
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:45 PM
Nov 2018

During the primaries, I looked at all the candidates in Michigan that OR endorsed and I wouldn't have a problem voting for any of them in the general if they were the nominee.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
64. UH Oh
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:16 PM
Nov 2018

but a whole lot of fundraising emails were sent before then. Oh and does endorse mean support? Asking for a friend.

 

fgeorge468

(17 posts)
28. Make America Great Again
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:40 PM
Nov 2018

I am so glad that everyone is finally starting to see Trump for the horrible person he is. Hopefully soon we can get this country back on track.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
30. Wow! And that's the real story!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:48 PM
Nov 2018

If we had the numbers of Rethugs leaving the Senate this season, we would have taken it, too.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
52. what's the percentage now?
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

That percentage has to have creeped up a bit from late decisions.

Has anyone pointed Diaper Donnie to that article or Ally Maynard's twitter thread?

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
62. That could go higher with an Nelson win and an Arizona win....
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:07 PM
Nov 2018

Thank GOD he endorsed his asshat friend Kobach who went down in flames for Governor of Kansas

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