CNN Is Considering Suing Trump Over Jim Acosta Ban

[applegrove]

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11/11/cnn-is-considering-suing-trump-over-jim-acosta-ban.html

By Jason Easley at Politicus USA

"SNIP.....

Legal experts are advising CNN to sue Trump for banning reporter Jim Acosta from the White House.

First Amendment expert Floyd Abrams said on CNN’s Reliable Sources, “I think it’s a really strong lawsuit. I can understand CNN being reluctant to sue because the president keeps saying CNN is the enemy of me, and CNN might have reluctance to have a lawsuit titled ‘CNN vs. Donald Trump.’ That said, yes, I think they should sue.”

Abrams continued, “This is going to happen again. It’s likely to happen again. So whether it’s CNN suing or the next company suing, someone is going to have to bring a lawsuit. And whoever does is going to win unless there’s some sort of reason.”

CNN has left open the possibility of a lawsuit, “No decisions have been made. We have reached out to the White House and gotten no response.”


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[PJMcK]

1. Cowards vs. cowards (n/t)

[vlyons]

7. What are you saying?

Are you saying that CNN is cowards? That Acosta is a coward? What are you saying?

[nolabear]

15. No, careful thought against reactionary politics.

You don’t sue lightly. If they choose tonthey need to prove their claims and do so in a way that gives them the clear legal and, if possible, emotional upper hand. I know the deplorable hoarde will be deplorable no matter what but those who either overtly or covertly can be reasonable should have every opportunity to see facts as facts.

[Roy Rolling]

39. Never Sue Lightly, Especially for Political Reasons

But this is business. Singling out CNN for insult and prejudicial, arbitrary rules inhibits their ability to practice commerce in a capitalist society. Trump's bashing is an unfair thumb on the scales in a free press market. The government should not be interfering in free market journalism in this way, and Trump has damaged them.

[nolabear]

44. Absolutely. I hope they do it right and well.

Somebody’s got to neuter that rat.

[Me.]

2. At The Very Least Sanders

[Wintryjade]

5. It was Trumps action, not Sanders, right? I am not sure why we could legally go after Sanders.

[Atticus]

11. Her doctored Infowars video was libelous. nt

[Me.]

18. Sanders Slandered Him Saying He Had Assaulted The So Called Intern

who is actually a deputy press secretary and then showed a doctored video of the incident to back up her slander.

[Wintryjade]

19. Ok. I thought it was in the banning. And this would be Trump. But, I see your legal position too.

Thanks.

[StarryNite]

3. Just do it!

[FakeNoose]

22. Maybe the threat of doing it is sufficient

Who knows? Cheeto is out of the country right now anyway. They're going to bluster for a few days and then it will blow over. I'm thinking Acosta will get his credentials back by the end of this week.

The important thing is that CNN isn't just rolling over. They're fighting for Jim, and that's a good thing.

[Wintryjade]

4. Senate goes after AG and Kav legally, House goes taxes/business and Kav, Mueller after Trumpco, CNN

would be one more prong of attack, legally. Lottsa lawyers to cover lots of fronts. Interesting. All valid actions. Keep Trump busy and angry for two years then vote a Democrat in.

[Hekate]

6. CNN might want to consider how they're going to look in the inevitable movie. Heroes, like WaPo...

...in the Pentagon Papers? (that movie is just called "The Post". ) Heroes, like the Washington Post in the Watergate saga? ("All the President's Men", book and movie)

Or will they be portrayed as accommodating cowards?

The Washington Post has itself a new motto: Democracy Dies in Darkness.

[reACTIONary]

45. Andm by the way, you can get...

.., a WaPo democracy dies in darkness tee.

[Hekate]

47. I know! And I want one of those!

[BigmanPigman]

8. You have to "Nip it in the bud!".

Didn't Barney Fife say this on The Andy Griffith Show? It applies here and now. Do it now, set a precedent or whatever and stand by for the fake prez to test it.

[StarryNite]

17. Exactly!

The bullying has to be stopped!

[iluvtennis]

20. +++ agree.

[Duppers]

31. Barney was right.

Yep.

[CountAllVotes]

9. U.S. Constitution - Amendment 1 Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am1.html

Go on Don the Con. The Constitution awaits!

[PeeJ52]

23. Did Congress Make a Law Abridging Free Speech or the Press?

No, I don't think so. The White House pulled Acosta's credentials. Can CNN just have Acosta's credentials assigned to another reporter? If the White House refuses to allow them a representative to their press briefings, then yes, I'd say they have a case. If they just don't want Acosta there, no matter if their reason is BS, I'd think they'd have that right. I would think the White House would have to allow representation from someone from CNN though.

[NewJeffCT]

25. Acosta has a valid case for libel

The White House planned the act and targeted Acosta
Sanders shared an obviously edited video to discredit Acosta

Both are malicious actions and meet the high bar set for libel

[PeeJ52]

27. I agree with your point...

I think Acosta was set up...

[mopinko]

34. and lied about the grabber.

called her an intern when she was a $130k deputy press sec.

[tableturner]

26. I Disagree...part of freedom of the press is the right to decide a reporter's beat.

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2018, 07:03 PM - Edit history (1)

You cannot let a president be the decider of whom a press entity assigns to cover him! That is a direct abridgement of freedom of the press.

Plus, he has threatened to revoke press credentials of other reporters if he does not like their work. That threat makes it clear that if a reporter does his or her job in a way that the president does not like, that reporter and the organization will suffer. How can that not be an abridgement of freedom of the press? That threat, which is at the heart of Trump's effort to affect the reportage of the office, also constitutes an abuse of the powers of the office.

Last, what if Trump revokes credentials of Acosta's replacement? If one time is okay, how many revocations must occur for the acts to be unconstitutional? Of course that question is unanswerable, which is great support for the reality that even one revocation is too much!

I believe that you are totally, profoundly wrong!

Edit: two misspellings

[PeeJ52]

30. I'd still disagree...

Now if CNN appointed Abby Phillip to take Acosta's place and the Whitehouse refused, I'd say they would have a beef. I know the video was edited, but, idiot orange did say that was enough and Acosta should have relinquished the mic and lived to fight another day. He was set up and lost his cool. It was evident, especially the way the pResident waited until the mic was taken away to bully Acosta. I hope they do sue the hell out of them.

[FirstLight]

38. +1000!

Exactly... regardless of the individual reporter, the WH is trying to tell the FREE Press how to cover him. Not ok at all.

[reACTIONary]

46. First amendment expert...

First Amendment expert Floyd Abrams said on CNN’s Reliable Sources, “I think it’s a really strong lawsuit. I can understand CNN being reluctant to sue because the president keeps saying CNN is the ene

I haven't looked into further, but first amendment jurisprudence is a bit more nuanced than congess making no law. The executive cannot act in a way that stifles or chills free speach, The effect of an executive action on other's behavior is also relevant

[CountAllVotes]

48. We did not forget

Oh no, we did not!

Fighting for our Constitution ONE DAY at a time!

[Gothmog]

10. This will be fun to watch

[CountAllVotes]

12. +1

n/t

[Brother Buzz]

13. My magic 8 Ball says...

Sarah Huckabee Sanders will named as a co-defendant in the lawsuit. And in my perfect world, there WILL be a lawsuit!

[lilactime]

14. Pleasepleaseplease

[RockRaven]

16. They should do it. It sounds like it would survive a motion to dismiss, and go to discovery phase.

At that point, Trump is guaranteed to fold.

[mahannah]

21. Just do it.

[world wide wally]

24. Sue the Amber asshole

[grumpyduck]

28. I think Jim should get his own show

as a commentator. What the heck, he has a following and he just became "controversial." In this day and age that's about all that the networks need to find sponsors to foot the bill. And he wouldn't have to sit in the press room any more.

[bobGandolf]

29. DO IT! N/T

[Initech]

32. Do it! Total abuse of power!

Even that scumbag Kavanaugh can't argue against that one.

[nini]

36. oh I'm sure he would

He doesn't care about what is right

[Initech]

37. Neither does this whole administration!

[nini]

42. absolutely..

The level and depth of these traitors is hard to come to grips with.. but we must.

[nini]

33. Reluctance to challenge this dictator wannabe is exactly why we are in the mess we are

God dammit this pisses me off. Stand up to this monster and fight for democracy

[Scruffy1]

35. In mabe 4 or 5 years it will work it's way through our injustice sytem.n/t.

[Kurt V.]

40. let's move forward and be ready

[KY_EnviroGuy]

41. This.....

Sam Donaldson Is Helping To Sue Trump For Banning CNN's Jim Acosta: 'He's Not Going To Get Away With It'

Veteran journalist Sam Donaldson on Sunday slammed Donald Trump's "small base" of voters, and revealed that he's participating in a lawsuit against Trump for banning CNN's Jim Acosta from the White House.

Link: https://crooksandliars.com/2018/11/sam-donaldson-helping-sue-trump-banning

(snip)

"It's my understanding that CNN and Acosta have sued, that there will be a court hearing on Tuesday," he added later in the interview. "I've been told that because I've been asked to give an affidavit, which I've prepared to be submitted to the court."

Donaldson also lashed out at Trump for ignoring the Constitution and the American people, aside from his base of supporters.

..........

[mastermind]

43. Disgusting and embarrassing having a criminal as a president. nt