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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:15 PM Nov 2018

Something behind market sell-off no one is talking about: Strong dollar

Stocks investors are spooked about a lot of things, and the strong dollar biting into earnings growth is now one of them.

The dollar index , which measures the greenback versus a basket of other currencies, jumped 0.6 percent to 97.43 Monday, a 17-month high. As the dollar rose, the Dow Jones Industrial Average lost more than 400 points, and the S&P 500 was down 1.3 percent at midday.

The dollar's strength Monday was largely attributed to weakness in the British pound and euro because of negative Brexit news and concerns about Italy's budget. But the dollar has also been rising on trade war concerns, rising U.S. interest rates and weaker growth rates outside the U.S.

"It could be a challenge for the stock market in the fact that about 40 percent of the S&P 500 earnings are generated from outside the United States," said Michael Arone, chief investment strategist at State Street Global Advisors. "As the dollar strengthens, that has certainly created risk to those earnings. Another thing that could be a risk is, as the global economy has been slowing this year, the rising dollar poses a problem for many countries outside the U.S. and that has contributed to the slowdown in growth. The question is whether the U.S. economy can withstand a slowdown in global growth, and I don't think it can in the long run."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/something-behind-market-sell-off-no-one-is-talking-about-strong-dollar/ar-BBPD3UU?li=BBnbfcN

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Something behind market sell-off no one is talking about: Strong dollar (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 OP
That is only one of the Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #1
Current sell off is tied to sharp decline in oil prices grantcart Nov 2018 #2
The only Oil that is dropping is Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #6
Nope virtually all oil commidites are down. Crude has lost 20% since Oct big drop this weekend grantcart Nov 2018 #7
Going to turn on the Bloomy in about a hour. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #8
20% since high in Oct. OPEC will cut production grantcart Nov 2018 #9
Crazy as it sounds. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #10
See 11 grantcart Nov 2018 #13
That could be because it is a "boutique blend" meaning that it is grantcart Nov 2018 #11
Kind of doubt the Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #14
VIX MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #5
But...but...strong dollar GOOD! Maeve Nov 2018 #3
Also, with stock indices looking 'toppy', and % rates rising, empedocles Nov 2018 #4
US Interest rates have risen so the dollar is stronger. Yavin4 Nov 2018 #12
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. That is only one of the
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:25 PM
Nov 2018

Trip Wires. The World Markets are reacting to the US massive screw up with the Tax Cuts and the ballooning Debt caused by this Tax Cut.

Bond interest rates are climbing and that adds to the math equation. Is it going to get worse,check the VIX,it is now going crazy signaling more sell off.

After hearing Debbie Dingle yesterday,layoff announcements are about to hit.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. The only Oil that is dropping is
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:24 AM
Nov 2018

Bitumus or heavy Crude which comes form Utah and the Tar Sands of Canada. 19 to 20 dollars a barrel and no one wants it. Refineries and certain ones in the Mid West use this as feed stock and it appears they have plenty on hand.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. Nope virtually all oil commidites are down. Crude has lost 20% since Oct big drop this weekend
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:43 AM
Nov 2018

https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts

Opec basket has been tumbling for the last two weeks losing almost 14%

They lost 2 1/2% today and appear to be going south through the psychological $ 60 per barrel price tomorrow



https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Saudis-Scramble-To-Stop-Oil-Price-Slide.html

Saudi Arabia is moving quickly to halt the slide in oil prices, telegraphing a production cut intended to erase some of the re-emerging supply surplus.


Saudi oil minister Khalid al-Falih said on Monday that the kingdom would slash oil exports by 500,000 bpd in December, a move that would go a long way to reversing the 1 million-barrel-per-day increase in output agreed to by OPEC+ in June.

It was only a few weeks ago that al-Falih was trying to reassure the market that Saudi Arabia had enough spare capacity in the event of an outage; now he is rushing to try to stop the slide in prices but paring back production.

The production cut would come just after crude oil officially entered bear market territory, falling 20 percent from its October peak.


But it is unclear at this point if the rest of the OPEC+ coalition, including Russia, will join the Saudis.


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Going to turn on the Bloomy in about a hour.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:01 AM
Nov 2018

If the Brent and West Texas is off 20% . Things will get butt ugly over night. Hunch China will start making some moves on Iranian Oil via a South American Country.

Still watching the VIX,this will be the Trigger.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. That could be because it is a "boutique blend" meaning that it is
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:47 AM
Nov 2018

A particular blend that has a segregated market because of State by State requirements and therefore isn't really fungible or fluid with international markets but has a separate supply and demand sub market.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Kind of doubt the
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:38 PM
Nov 2018

boutique think. Our market is controlled by one Distributor based out of Texas. It boils down to this,how much can we suck out of the market before the public burns us down.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
5. VIX
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:29 PM
Nov 2018

When I used to follow it, when VIX popped above 20 after a long time below it, it usually was not a good sign.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Also, with stock indices looking 'toppy', and % rates rising,
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:12 PM
Nov 2018

the dollar and US securities looking more attractive.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
12. US Interest rates have risen so the dollar is stronger.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:00 AM
Nov 2018

Investors have an alternative to global speculative growth. Also, world governments have grown more and more unstable. It's a flight to safety.

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