Id like an answer on the Jill Stein thing.

[Firestorm49]

Why was Jill Stein seated with Michael Flynn at the table with Putin before the election? Was she part of the plan to siphon off votes from Clinton?
I’m not proposing a conspiracy theory. It’s nothing other than a question. Teflon Jill Stein has escaped the scrutiny of the American public. Not a word about her, yet there she was. Why? Who paid her way? Is the Green Party corrupt?

[marylandblue]

1. I am sure she was part of the plan, why else would she be there?

I am also sure that Mueller has investigated that possibility. Our media doesn't want to go there because it would shatter their illusions about how deep Russian tentacles reach.

[Power 2 the People]

2. She was obviously part of Putin's plan to siphon votes from HRC

[GemDigger]

3. I figured I would do a quick google on her and Russia and there are so many articles to choose from.

I imagine that she is keeping a low profile because sooner or later there will be some kind of law enforcement talking to her about just that or they already have.

[MichMan]

4. Why was she funded through her fake recount from people here?

[912gdm]

13. she did her job well

and duped a bunch of Americans

[elocs]

43. Stein duped a lot of voters from the Left,

especially those who bought the Big Lie that there was no difference between Clinton and Trump,
and those who wanted to teach her a lesson for daring to beat Bernie.

[beachbum bob]

5. Green Party has been a tool, their suppprters are tools, only purpose

is disrupting democrats..

[FirstLight]

6. I've thought that from the beginning...

Seeing that picture was a lightbulb moment for me at least.

I hope someone (Mueller) has spoken to her also.

[Eric J in MN]

7. She went to a foreign policy conference in Russia

...in 2015. She paid her own way. She didn’t decide the seating.

[Firestorm49]

8. Thank you

[Eric J in MN]

9. You're welcome. NT

NT

[frazzled]

11. Really? That's the answer you choose to thank and accept?

Or is that just the one you were seeking?

There is no doubt that Jill Stein was a willing partner in Russian attempts to disrupt the election. And that was no foreign policy conference she was attending when she sat at Michael Flynn’s table with Vladimir Putin. It was a gala for the 10th anniversary of the state propaganda outlet RT. You don’t choose to go to an affair like that; you’re invited.

"The Russian embrace of Jill Stein was anything but subtle," said Andrew Weiss, a Russia expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "Russian state propaganda outlets like RT had a field day with her strident attacks on the U.S. political establishment, and they seemed to work hand in glove.”

...

McFaul said that Russia state media's interest in Stein fits with a policy of underlining dissent in the U.S. "RT has promoted and often exaggerated the importance of third party political leaders and fringe social movements in the United States with the aim of exacerbating social tensions in the United States," he said.

Weiss said that Stein's foreign policy statements are also in synch with Russian interests. "Some of Stein's virulent pro-Russian rhetoric has barely gotten attention. Her talking points on hot button issues like the war in Ukraine look like she's reading off of a Kremlin-supplied script."

During the 2016 campaign, Stein was a favorite of RT and Sputnik, the two government-owned English-language news outlets that have been identified by U.S. intelligence as a big part of the Russian effort to influence the American presidential election. The U.S. intelligence community called the two outlets part of "Russia's state-run propaganda machine."




The head table of a gala celebrating the tenth anniversary of Russia Today in December of 2015 included Russian President Vladimir Putin, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn and Jill Stein of the U.S. Green Party.Mikhail Klimentyev / Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP file

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-are-senate-russia-investigators-interested-jill-stein-n831261

Maybe you should d some research rather than picking the answer you like best.

[Hekate]

54. Thank you for the reality check. We'll see who's interested in cashing it. nt

[shanny]

56. ...

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2017/12/21/that-infamous-moscow-dinner-where-michael-flynn-and-jill-stein-sat-with-putin-utahs-rocky-anderson-was-there-too/

[emulatorloo]

57. Whataboutism n/t

[frazzled]

59. ... and?

There’s no defense there. Anyway, I’m not really interested in what someone who claimed Obama was worse than Bush and who said he’d thrown his Democratic Party card (as if there were really such a thing) into the garbage. It’s like Clyde defending Bonnie.

Both were willing players in the RT attempts to sow chaos into American politics.

[shanny]

60. Smh

[R B Garr]

12. It was a Russia Today 10-year anniversary, which is not

a foreign policy meeting. Russia supported her because she smeared Democrats:Hillary. All easily found on Google, including the fact that Russia Today media types now have to register as Foreign Agents. She knew plenty.

[Demsrule86]

21. Oh please, Putin sat with her...all we need to know about Jill Green slime Stein.

[R B Garr]

24. Yes! She went there for Russia Today, not some foreign

policy conference as it was presented by another poster.

[Eric J in MN]

23. When a news network hosts foreign policy discussions

...that’s a foreign policy conference.

[R B Garr]

25. It was Russia Today's 10-year anniversary. Now "media" types

associated with them have to register as Foreign Agents, all easily Google-able.

[Eric J in MN]

27. Those aren't mutually exclusive. NT

NT

[R B Garr]

31. A 10-year anniversary to celebrate a hostile foreign news outlet

is not a foreign policy conference. It’s a 10-year anniversary.

[Eric J in MN]

33. Watch this one minute video from the event

[R B Garr]

35. LOL, the description literally says "10-year anniversary"

“RT’s 10-year anniversary in Moscow”

There are plenty of posts in this thread that correct the mischaracterization, so time to move on.

I’ve seen enough of Jill Stein anyway to know she is a liar and a fraud.

[FSogol]

17. LOL. n/t

[brush]

36. If you buy that I have a bridge you might also be interested in buying.

[DanTex]

15. LOL. It wasn't a "foreign policy conference", it was the 10th anniversary of RT, the

Russian state propaganda network upon which Jill Stein appears frequently to bash the Democratic Party.

Also, she didn't pay her own way. Her way was paid by an organization dedicated to electing Republicans at all levels of government: the Green Party (which itself often receives funding and support from Republicans).

[Eric J in MN]

22. Where people discussed foreign policy. NT

NT

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. We sometimes discuss foreign policy in my painting class. That doesn't make it

a foreign policy meeting. Jill Stein is one of Putin's useful idiots.

[Eric J in MN]

29. There were organized forums on foreign policy. NT

NT

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. But it was an event sponsored by RT for its 10th anniversary.

Whatever "foreign policy" conversations took place would have been to discuss ways of kneecapping Clinton. Why else would the likes of Mike Flynn have been there? Strange bedfellows. Jill Stein and the Greens are stooges whose goal is to defeat Democrats, and if that means getting in bed with the Russians (and Mike Flynn), so be it.

[Eric J in MN]

32. Here is a one minute video of a forum

...on foreign policy at the event:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. I have no doubt they discussed foreign policy, which is a broad topic

that certainly could include ways to influence an American election for Russia's benefit. But that's not the point. The point is that Jill Stein attended an event sponsored by RT, the media arm of Putin's government, along with anti-Clinton Trump stooge Mike Flynn. Were any American Democratic politicians there to discuss "foreign policy"? Why not, and why did Jill Stein go? Why do the Russians like the Green party? Inquiring minds want to know.

[DanTex]

44. LOL... right, and prison is simply a cigarette exchange.

[rufus dog]

18. Did she use the money that she was going to get in the future?

Perhaps she used her scammed recount money from 2016 to pay for the Russian trip?



..... sometimes it is better to say nothing .....

[JHan]

20. uhm no.

[Squinch]

40. I've noticed that trump followers have a weird ability to excuse or

ignore obvious collusion too.

[Eric J in MN]

41. Tell me more about her illegal scheme. NT

NT

[Squinch]

45. Tell me more about why you are so invested in your belief that

her RT paid meeting with Flynn and Putin was just a nice meal among innocent friends.

It was total coincidence, I suppose, that it just happened to take place during the planning stages if a massive Russian campaign to elect a Russian puppet to the American presidency.

Do tell. Why your investment in Saint Jill?

[Eric J in MN]

47. If they wanted to discuss an illegal plan

..they wouldn’t have chosen a dinner with a hundred people in the room.

[Squinch]

48. Of course. And there is no reason whatsoever for her dedicated

followers to be feeling any buyer's remorse. They only need to look in the mirror and remind themselves that doggone it, they are good enough and smart enough!

[jcgoldie]

10. No clue

But I heard her interview on NPR enough times leading up to the 16 election and repeatedly argue that Clinton was just as bad as Trump to know that she's either a complete fool with no concept of policy or she's complicit.

[DanTex]

14. She was in Moscow for the 10th anniversary party for Russia Today.

Russia Today (RT) is Russia's state propaganda TV network. Aside from being at that celebration with Putin and Flynn, she also appeared on RT multiple times, bashing Hillary Clinton. The Mueller investigation also found that the Kremlin paid for pro-Jill Stein advertisements in order to try to siphon off votes from Clinton to help Trump win.

To your question, was Jill Stein part of the plan to siphon off votes from Clinton? Yes, of course. The entire purpose of the Green Party is to help Republicans win elections by siphoning off votes. The Democrats know that, the Republicans know that, the Greens know that, and the Russians also know that.

[rgbecker]

16. I love that we liberals on DU are so open minded!

Taking in all the information from many sources and making good choices based on the facts.

[Hekate]

51. I love it that some of the sources of facts are our raw real world experiences of people & events

Jillsie was there at that dinner with some mighty shady characters including a notorious murderer.

Beyond that, there is her former documented behavior and her subsequent documented behavior. For instance, she was supposed to spearhead vote recounts in states where Hillary lost narrowly, and collected at least $2,000,000 from her fellow Americans for that cause. Whatever happened to the recounts and that money?

A lot of us liberals no longer like Jill Stein even a little bit. She and her smug know-it-all smile are right up there with Susan Sarandon's smug entitled smile.

[11 Bravo]

19. Also, FUCK Ralph Nader! (Just for old time's sake.)

[DownFromTheMountain]

28. Let's all google Jill Stien..

and find out what she's up to now! Maybe she is working hard to forge a powerful new coalition of freedom loving citizens to help society...or..maybe not.

[brush]

38. I'd go with "not". Gearing up to torpedo Dems in 2020? I'd go with "yes".

It's like clockwork. Every presidential cycle the Greens pop up.

We just had the mid-terms and they were invisible. It's obvious they have no interest in building a real, ground up party apparatus that competes for local, state and national office. All they want to do is siphon votes from Dem presidential nominess.

[Small-Axe]

39. My memory was that RT paid for Stein's trip to Moscow.

Does anyone have links to more conclusive information about that?

[Sunlei]

50. you can google that photo and click on the google pic & read about that .

[Gothmog]

42. A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for Putin and trump

[elocs]

46. Here in Wisconsin, Stein's vote total exceeded Trump's margin of victory.

And I really don't think that there were a lot of Republicans who chose to vote for Stein rather than Trump.

[Sunlei]

49. yes, she siphoned a couple percent of Ds and others who didn't like hillary or trump

remember stein painting the bulldozer, getting arrested & in the press 'backing' the XM pipeline protesters?

that was media pushed to make stein look like a 'good vote'.

She and that male (what was his name?Brown? he got a few percent in states like Pa.)

Spoilers.

[meadowlander]

52. Mueller interviewed her so I guess we'll all have to wait and see what's in his report.

[Hekate]

53. I doubt she has escaped the scrutiny of Robert Mueller, considering the company she keeps...

The conspiracy is real this time -- the question is only how far it has spread and in what form, and who were the tools, fools, and active agents.

On this side of the globe, only Mueller has the answer to those questions, and he ain't sayin'

[Quemado]

55. Not defending Jill Stein, but, here is her response to your first question

?t=251

I don't have a lot of trust in Jill Stein. I was not in favor of her third party candidacy that wound up siphoning off votes from Hilary Clinton.