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Michael Avenatti, who became famous for representing Stormy Daniels in her battle with President Trump, has been arrested for felony domestic violence ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.
Our law enforcement sources say Avenatti was arrested Wednesday after his estranged wife filed a felony DV report. We're told her face was "swollen and bruised."
Our sources say the alleged incident occurred Tuesday, but there was a confrontation Wednesday between the two at an exclusive apartment building in the Century City area of L.A.
We're told during today's confrontation the woman ran out of the apartment building and was on the sidewalk on her cellphone with sunglasses covering her eyes, screaming on the phone, "I can't believe you did this to me."
http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/
A report for the alleged abuse was filed Tuesday.
Michael Avenatti was arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence on Wednesday, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.
A report for the alleged abuse was filed Tuesday, a Los Angeles police spokesman said.
Avenatti is Stormy Daniels' attorney. He has made a name for himself by going after President Trump and his White House.
Avenatti is awaiting booking, police said. It is unclear at which L.A. station he will be processed
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-avenatti-arrested-suspected-felony-domestic-violence-1161370
Link to tweet
We can confirm that today LAPD Detectives arrested Michael Avenatti on suspicion of domestic violence. This is an ongoing investigation and we will provide more details as they become available.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)by either calling 911 or by telling her that he would if she didn't leave.
Hitting her back was not an option.
FarPoint
(12,361 posts)I feel a big pay-off set up....I really like Michael...sure hope it is not true.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Whats more likely an aggressive loudmouth turns out to be a physical bully or that his wife has been paid off to fake a beating?
This is not surprising to me.
FarPoint
(12,361 posts)He certainly caused enough ruckus for the tRumpsters and tRump...plus irritated a few Democrats....so, yea, I do want to hear his side. No prior history of domestic violence...
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)I just read an article saying that they haven't named the victim.
Or am I missing something very obvious.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)That was corrected as the story developed.
Separation
(1,975 posts)I figured as much.
mitch96
(13,904 posts)Lets see how it unfolds.. And when I first heard I thought this has Rodger Stone's fingerprints all over it..
Dirty tricks abound.... Then again Avenatti runs on 100 octane testosterone..
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eleny
(46,166 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Groan....just ONE normal day please? Just one.
underpants
(182,802 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I never really expressed an opinion on Avenatti here, because a lot of what he talked about was reasonably "simpatico" with what many of us think, but there was this other part of him that just never added up to me. That was the stuff I kept to myself.
He's not Trump, though. I don't see him bouncing back unscathed from this. I'm sure he'll continue to be an attorney, but his self-marketing program now looks like Swiss cheese.
Whatever happens, though, he definitely won't be on the 2020 ticket (not that I ever truly believed he'd be on it in the first place).
Problem is, Trump and his lackeys will probably use this as fodder against Dems, even though Avenatti holds no elected office and is not our "spokesperson." That won't stop what's coming in the way of backlash.
marlakay
(11,465 posts)I know bad...republicans just dont seem to care anymore.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Yes, it is still "innocent until proven guilty." We don't know all of the details behind this.
That said, as a Democrat, I'm not going to rush in and defend him against "false accusations," especially because I don't know the truth behind what happened. That's up to our legal system.
But if it were Republicans discussing Republicans, the cries of "witch hunt" would already be out there.
eleny
(46,166 posts)Neither is okay, imo.
StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)tman
(983 posts)Beakybird
(3,333 posts)Smart but with little wisdom.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)vinegar and water?
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)But not many care. He lacked personal and political depth, IMO. Good for a defense attorney, I'm sure, but he'd best stay in that lane.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)Any post here needs a second source if TMZ is one. TMZ has taken over from the National Enquirer and has become Trump's mouthpiece.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)They are a gossip / rumor / paparazzi creepy celeb site, but it appears they hate Trump as much as we do.
Harvey has been very Pro Trump.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tmz-goes-maga-how-harvey-levins-gossip-empire-became-trumps-best-friend
LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)But hopefully this will put an end to any talk of a political future for this guy.
JDC
(10,127 posts)Not saying it did or did not happen. Just not jumping straight to a conclusion based on just this report.
fallout87
(819 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)other outlets have confirmed the story.
Mike Nelson
(9,955 posts)
his wife is bigger and stronger, which I doubt. He looks like a strong guy - and hitting a spouse is always wrong, anyway.
fallout87
(819 posts)Where are his supporters now????????
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)I have no problem saying I was wrong. I am happy this happened now rather than later. Bye bye Michael.
fallout87
(819 posts)And you're right better we find out now rather than later.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Me too.
He had a lot of supporters here who are strangely silent.
FarPoint
(12,361 posts)I'm just tired from a long day at work.
I'll wait to hear Michael's side.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Dems and Repubs alike. it's the one thing he has in common with Trump.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)I was appalled.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Is there anyone more desirable to be shut up by dirty tricks than Avenatti?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Cohen, at this point, for one.
Avenatti is not a concern for Trump at all. So far, Avenatti has managed to have a court award Trump's attorney's fees in the defamation case, and the contract case is going nowhere.
Of what possible concern is Avenatti to Trump?
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Avenatti certainly was a thorn in Trump's side and responsible for many revelations. Trump doesn't forget.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Read this timeline and tell me what revelations Avenatti is responsible for:
https://www.commoncause.org/resource/common-cause-v-trump-cohen-stormy-daniels/
In January 2018, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Michael Cohen, who was President Trumps personal lawyer, top lawyer at the Trump Organization and self-described Trump fix-it guy back in 2016, had set up a shell company in Delaware (Essential Consultants LLC) in October 2016 and arranged a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels through that shell company right before the November 2016 presidential election. Ms Daniels had earlier alleged that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 and in the Fall of 2016 was in talks with one or more national media outlets to go on the record with her story.
On January 22, 2018, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging reason to believe that the payment of $130,000 from Essential Consultants LLC to Ms. Daniels was an unreported and illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign because the payment was for the purpose of influencing the 2016 presidential general election and was made in coordination with the campaign via Trumps lawyer, Michael Cohen. At that time, the source of the $130,000 was unknownand Common Cause named both the Trump Organization and John Doe as possible sources.
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What "revelations"?
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)But I am tired from a long day hiking...maybe morning.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)but his results seem decidedly mixed.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Of his wanting to bring down Trump.
Or are you only in favor of someone on the verge of sainthood bringing Trump down?? Lol
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
fallout87
(819 posts)I don't consider myself a saint, but i know not to hit women. How low is the bar for you?
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..would Avenatti have been if he used 'please' 'thank you' and 'may I' when dealing with trump? He has helped bring him down.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)it will be at the hands of Bob Mueller and the new Democratic House. Avenatti is just a fart in a whirlwind.
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octoberlib
(14,971 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I've been a critic of Avenatti from the get-go, but that has more to do with the puffery around his actual legal acumen. I get why people on DU like him, just like I get why people on DU were fans of Assange.
I'm sure there will be further developments around this story as well, but I just wish that people would recognize that differences of opinion around media figures happen, and that having a different opinion does not make one a troll.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hes a grifter and now apparently a dirtbag, too!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)One of the effects of that has been that factually-supported criticism of Avenatti gets scrubbed from DU.
I had pointed out some of the problems with Tully's coffee early on and found out that you can't fight blind hero worship on DU.
Similar thing happened in the past with Assange, so I'm not to worried about it.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Initech
(100,071 posts)Creepy dude who represents porn stars is definitely a loose cannon waiting to happen.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)can unfortunately lead to being an aggressive hothead in private.
One hopes this will stop DUs endless stream of Avenatti 2020 posts.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I was just preparing to compose an update post on the Stormy Daniels litigation. In short, while we were watching the election, he moved to amend the complaint again, this time to remove the defamation claim against Cohen, since he figured out how SLAPP works.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,338 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,386 posts)I had the guy pegged as a slime from the beginning. What I didnt know was that he was a slime who likes to beat women.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)And apparently went out and made enough of a scene on the sidewalk, saying incriminating things like 'I can't believe you did this to me' down her cellphone, that people took note of it?
I'm not going to speculate TOO much here until I hear ... a little bit more detail, is all ...
Hope she's okay, in any case.
fallout87
(819 posts)on FELONY domestic Violence. That doesn't happen by chance or on flimsy evidence. Reports are that her face is bruised, swollen.
onenote
(42,702 posts)I don't think that's the same as being "with him".
Obviously we don't know the whole story. Until we do, I'll reserve judgment, although I will add that if, as he claims, she hit him first, I still have a problem with him hitting her back.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)the day before. She must have filed charges after that.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Thanks for the enlightenment ...
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,338 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)And relations with 'estranged spouses' can be ... tense.
Just saying I'd like some more details before I form a definitive opinion is all.
I was unaware that she'd gotten a police escort today, guess I should've read the article not just the OP
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Star Member mr_lebowski (4,330 posts)
21. So ... TMZ says he hit her yesterday, but then she was with him again today?
.......
Spousal abuse is very complicated. Women dont always leave their abusers. There may be children involved. There are a lot of reasons many times they wait too long and theyre dead. As I said its complicated.
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)nolabear
(41,963 posts)I enjoyed the moxie at first but he began to strike me as too close to the gutter fighter type. And frankly I have no use for that.
Fascinating how much is boiling down to relationships between men and women these days. Im in between righteous outrage and guilty voyeurism. What a world...
samnsara
(17,622 posts)Something really stinks about this. Timing is great for it45, we will see.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)and the whole Stormy bruhaha is old news anyway.
This is actually great news for Democrats - "Avanetti for POTUS" was a terrible idea from the get-go. This sqaushes that, and long before the primaries too.
Gregory Peccary
(490 posts)Let's see what shakes out
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)He has powerful enemies.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)I'm not a fan of Avenatti but I'm not going to gloat about this. It's bad no matter who does it, and I hate that (assuming this is true) he's damaged his own liberal reputation. The up-side, if there is one, is that his ego trip to a run for the presidency just got derailed.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)...he has my gratitude. I never thought he was Prez material but I am glad he was on our side when we needed some help. I wish him luck with the case and I hope he gets a judge who is fair.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Last week he tried to amend the complaint in that case to remove the defamation claim against Cohen. The remaining claim for recission of the contract is likely to be dismissed at the hearing next month, and the only thing he's accomplished so far is that the court has awarded Trump his attorney's fees in the defamation case he filed against Trump.
The best outcome for Daniels in the contract case at this point is that she'll be ordered to give the $130k back. If you want to call that a win.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)And, by extension, implicating Donald Trump in same.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Avenatti did not even BEGIN to represent Daniels until the very end of February at the earliest, since Cohen had gotten the arbitration award against her.
Complaints were filed with the DOJ in JANUARY by Common Cause just after the WSJ got the story about the payout mechanics.
What you believe is factually untrue.
https://www.commoncause.org/resource/common-cause-v-trump-cohen-stormy-daniels/
In January 2018, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Michael Cohen, who was President Trumps personal lawyer, top lawyer at the Trump Organization and self-described Trump fix-it guy back in 2016, had set up a shell company in Delaware (Essential Consultants LLC) in October 2016 and arranged a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels through that shell company right before the November 2016 presidential election. Ms Daniels had earlier alleged that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 and in the Fall of 2016 was in talks with one or more national media outlets to go on the record with her story.
On January 22, 2018, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging reason to believe that the payment of $130,000 from Essential Consultants LLC to Ms. Daniels was an unreported and illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign because the payment was for the purpose of influencing the 2016 presidential general election and was made in coordination with the campaign via Trumps lawyer, Michael Cohen. At that time, the source of the $130,000 was unknownand Common Cause named both the Trump Organization and John Doe as possible sources.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)because his name appeared in the Steele dossier.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)He also revealed the sources of other questionable payments to Essential Consultants:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-avenatti-stormy-daniels-lawyer-claims-cohen-received-payments-from-russian-oligarchs-company/
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The entire contents of Cohen's residence and office were seized by federal criminal prosecutors.
To whom did Avenatti "reveal" them, and to what end?
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)It's ridiculous to assert, as you're attempting, that he had no impact as it relates to Trump. Do you think that public perception about Trump's corruption was not affected by Avenatti?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is there someone who thought Trump was a wonderful guy until Avenatti sued over the contract? I would seriously want to meet that person.
I suppose we need to define "impact". The only thing he has accomplished as an attorney in relation to Trump is that he has obtained a judgment adverse to his own client in the defamation case.
Trump lost the popular vote and has never had the approval of a majority of the public.
Avenatti's appearances on TV news and opinion programs watched by a sliver of the public have the primary impact of reinforcing negative perception of Trump among those who already have a negative view of Trump (which, again, has always been a majority).
But, no, I don't believe, even if "public perception" mattered to the practical reality of Trump not being one inch closer to exiting the White House, that there is any substantial portion of the population who changed their mind about the admitted "pussy grabber" as a consequence of anything that Avenatti has done.
That feeling of "Oh boy, he really gave it to Trump this time" that one gets when Avenatti does his TV thing doesn't have anything to do with "public perception" generally.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Trump has bled support for two years now. I guess that, in one measure, that's "consistency".
Let's put this simply, shall we? It's safe to assume that a large majority of the voting population knows of Stormy Daniels. It's safe to assume that at least a plurality of the voting population is aware of Donald Trump's financial improprieties. And it's a clear bet that a very tiny minority of the voting population has ever heard of Common Cause.
You're welcome to draw your own conclusions.
N.b.: "... one inch closer to exiting the White House"? Da fuq?
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)for you?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It did NOT lead to the raid on Cohen.
You are simply wrong about that. The papers filed by the USAO-SDNY made it clear that the referral to their office was WEEKS before Avenatti even represented Daniels.
https://www.commoncause.org/resource/common-cause-v-trump-cohen-stormy-daniels/
In January 2018, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Michael Cohen, who was President Trumps personal lawyer, top lawyer at the Trump Organization and self-described Trump fix-it guy back in 2016, had set up a shell company in Delaware (Essential Consultants LLC) in October 2016 and arranged a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels through that shell company right before the November 2016 presidential election. Ms Daniels had earlier alleged that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 and in the Fall of 2016 was in talks with one or more national media outlets to go on the record with her story.
On January 22, 2018, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging reason to believe that the payment of $130,000 from Essential Consultants LLC to Ms. Daniels was an unreported and illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign because the payment was for the purpose of influencing the 2016 presidential general election and was made in coordination with the campaign via Trumps lawyer, Michael Cohen. At that time, the source of the $130,000 was unknownand Common Cause named both the Trump Organization and John Doe as possible sources.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)well before Avenatti commenced the Daniels case.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)When everyone was cowering in fear of Trump, Avenatti took him head on. If not for Stormy Daniels lawsuit, we wouldn't have the Cohen indictment, conviction and co-operation that itself brough out other co-operation either voluntary or through grants of immunity.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The wheels were in motion on the matters that led to the Cohen indictment back in January. Avenatti had nothing to do with the referral that Mueller made to the USAO-SDNY on the Cohen stuff.
Avenatti is merely the rooster claiming to have made the sun come up on that one.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)Remember, Cohen's name turned up in the Steele dossier, according to which Cohen entered Prague through Germany at the height of the 2016 campaign in order to meet with Russians. The FBI had obtained the dossier even before the election, but the Daniels lawsuit wasn't commenced until March of 2018. Cohen was already in the FBI's crosshairs on account of the Russia investigation, as well as for some unrelated dodgy business matters. Avenatti didn't cause the downfall of Cohen and he didn't make a dent in Trump - especially since Daniels now owes Trump a lot of money for attorneys' fees for Avenatti's ill-considered libel suit.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The amazing thing about the entire Avenatti act is the way that he got people to believe in a false chronology.
Most people don't pay attention to the details, and it is really something how persistent this completely false belief is.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)Too bad he isn't as good at litigation.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,338 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)He publicized Daniels' prior relationship with Daniels by filing a lawsuit to rescind the NDA. But the real, hard work was done behind the scenes (as usual) by the federal investigators who were investigating Michael Cohen, which investigation started before Avenatti sued and which would have happened irrespective of the Daniels suit. And a part of Avenatti's litigation (Daniels' meritless libel claim against Trump) has resulted in a huge judgment against Daniels for attorneys' fees.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Oddly enough, I was going to post an update tonight, since there was some odd action during the election.
As you may know, the issue of the contract recission and mootness is fully briefed now for hearing at the beginning of December.
However, out of the blue, Avenatti filed last week to amend the complaint a second time - this time to REMOVE the defamation claim against Cohen, because Avenatti has finally figured out how SLAPP works, and he wants to avoid a second judgment against Daniels.
Oddly enough, Cohen's lawyers are OPPOSING Avenatti's motion to amend, because they WANT to go after Daniels for fees on that one.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)I hope they let him out of jail in time to argue those motions, and I'll bet kroner to krugerrands that he loses the motion to dismiss for mootness.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's a really weird case at this point.
The "large scale view" of this thing is:
1. Plaintiff is arguing that it wants to litigate issues which the Defendant admits, and
2. Defendant is arguing that it wants to litigate counterclaims that the Plaintiff is seeking to dismiss.
Just on those dynamics alone, if I was the judge I would certainly be warming up my GTFO hammer.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Even if not true, this is a huge hit to his rep.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)And we haven't heard about the Stormy Daniels case for several months, it's basically vanished.
It was nice having a fighter like him, but he always seemed more concerned with his own image and getting personal publicity than actually making things happen judicially speaking. If what's been accused is true, I won't miss him and I don't think it's much of a loss.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)the Daniels case got started. The FBI had been investigating Cohen for months and the feds would have charged him regardless of the Daniels lawsuit.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)unblock
(52,223 posts)Oneironaut
(5,494 posts)I've always seen Avenatti as being a total grandstanding douche bag. I enjoyed his trolling of Trump, but I never liked him.
He's basically Trump if Trump was on the Democratic Party's side.
Takket
(21,565 posts)I can't believe there was actually threads on here saying they would support him for president.
Why?
Because he sued drumpf 100 times?
Guy made a big show of filing lawsuits and I never heard of him actually following through on any of them for his clients.
He is a camera loving opportunist that saw Stormy as a chance to make his name famous, and it worked, and a lot of the same people that can't understand how deplorables are such suckers believing anything drumpf says were down on their knees worshiping Avenatti.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The only thing Avenatti has accomplished for Daniels so far is to have court award Trump his attorney's fees against Daniels in the defamation case.
Last week, Avenatti did some more flailing around in the contract case, and is actually being opposed in his attempt to withdraw the defamation claim against Cohen, because Cohen wants to get his fees awarded too!
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Many of us were never a fan of his. And were attacked here for saying so.
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)And frankly I have been surprised by some here who were so willing to jump on his bandwagon as some savior for Democrats.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)that person is the new knight in shining armor and people get all fanboy and go OMG OMG HE'S GOT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT! CUZ HE WAS LIKE TOTALLY MEAN TO TRUMP!!! without considering whether that person is actually qualified and not just another shiny object celebrity who's never even run for their local park commission.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)harumph
(1,900 posts)nolabear
(41,963 posts)Theyre acting as though hes some huge loss and grave dancing as though the Dems has some kind of hopes riding on him. He was never actually important except as Stormys lawyer and advocate. Id suggest meh and move on.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:06 PM - Edit history (1)
and the ex has bruises to back up her claim. Pretty much like WH aide Rob Porter, whose head we all demanded on the basis of similar allegations (and bruises). It's wrong, whether their guy or our guy does it.
Update: Turns out the complainant isn't the ex but some other woman. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Come on. . . think about how absurd that sounds.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Not that absurd...
I'll wait till I can see some facts...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)to assume his wife faked a beating. I know you guys like to have heroes and all but at a certain point it all gets rather silly.
Denzil_DC
(7,237 posts)Avenatti's wife wasn't involved at all, let alone beaten.
Try to get some decent information before posting.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)as the victim. That has since been changed. Even a cursory reading of the thread would have revealed that.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)and there were no victims with bruises. There is no comparison between the two situations.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)a lot of you are quick to put him the barrel without facts
Codeine
(25,586 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Hugin
(33,140 posts)Let's be accurate here.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)then hes done. His moment in the sun is o.v.e.r. I suppose theres a chance that he could have been set up. tRump and his goons hate him with the heat of 1000 suns and I wouldnt put it past them to pull something like that.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Smells fishy..
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)in the TMZ report is the woman ran from the building yelling I cant believe you did this to me... It just seems over dramatic. Dont get me wrong, if he hit her, he should go down hard. This whole thing strikes me as weird.
Justice Boofer is probably going to have an extra beer tonight.
Hugin
(33,140 posts)This turn of events makes too many of the wrong people too happy.
0rganism
(23,953 posts)just like how they point at the asshole who shot Rep. Scalise to justify politically-motivated mass shootings by Republicans.
and our crack corps of professional journalists will perk up and say "yep, both sides do it," without ever stopping to consider if that's really a point at all.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)sheshe2
(83,758 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)What a shithead...allegedly...
( Not criticizing a "Democrat." I'm criticizing an accused assaulter of women.)
UTUSN
(70,691 posts)demmiblue
(36,851 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)That's what I want to know. Guess we'll find out.
Doodley
(9,089 posts)Democrats have to try to bring Trump down and the fake news has provided a platform for him because they hate Trump. So, this is very bad news in our fight against Trump.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)His supporters can go fuck themselves.
Doodley
(9,089 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)fucked us. And he would have fucked us.
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MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Avenatti's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. But in a statement to BuzzFeed News, attorneys for Avenatti's wife, Lisa Storie-Avenatti, refuted reports by TMZ that the alleged incident involved her.
"My client and I have reviewed the TMZ article alleging that my client, Lisa Storie-Avenatti, has been injured and that Michael Avenatti has been arrested as a result of some incident that occurred between them. This article is not true as it pertains to my client," the statement said. "Ms. Storie-Avenatti was not subject to any such incident on Tuesday night. Further, she was not at Mr. Avenattis apartment on the date that this alleged incident occurred. My client states that there has never been domestic violence in her relationship with Michael and that she has never known Michael to be physically violent toward anyone."
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiarosenbaum/michael-avenatti-arrested
Codeine
(25,586 posts)to this, doesnt it?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Hugin
(33,140 posts)Azathoth
(4,608 posts)And the way he was using Stormy Daniel's case as nothing but a vehicle for his own ambitions was unethical.
Get him out of the picture now before he has a chance to turn our primary into a Trumpian clownshow.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Autumn
(45,082 posts)ananda
(28,859 posts)The wife's statement says he was never there at the time
of the alleged incident and that he has never abused her.
So... what??????
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There would be little reason for his estranged wife to be at his apartment, since she had kicked him out of the house months ago.
It appears that he has been arrested, but that his estranged wife is not the alleged victim.
Doodley
(9,089 posts)Doodley
(9,089 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)That sounds like an admission of guilt if he indeed did say that.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)he always seemed like a fast talking sleazy opportunistic media hound with a real temper.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)His wife is already denying it happened.
Doodley
(9,089 posts)All roads lead to the White House, with the knowledge and direction of Trump, and this is the story that brings Trump down.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)And check post #143
Whats that about feeling stupid?
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Takket
(21,565 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Doodley
(9,089 posts)More likely to be a set up. You can pay a woman to make false allegations. More difficult for a wife to comply. He has got under Trump's skin like nobody else. Don't assume this isn't dirty tricks.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Evidently it was an entirely different woman.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Don't be lazy.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)You're just pissed because you wanted this story to be true and now its being taken away from you. Poor baby.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)But go ahead. Tell us your proof oh great Carnac
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Wheres your proof?
Still waiting
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Roland99
(53,342 posts)Typical Avenatti fanboi
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Typical Russian troll.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Or is your Ruskey English too limited to understand them.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Response to Roland99 (Reply #203)
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Roland99
(53,342 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Not much of an argument.
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MichMan
(11,923 posts)Seems to me that if someone could make a false allegation based on being paid off, it is also possible that someone could deny a factual allegation for the same reason
Autumn
(45,082 posts)is behind this.
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First Mueller and now me. When we are fully exonerated I am coming for you Jacob Wohl aka Surefire.
orangecrush
(19,551 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)First let me say I'm a woman and not a man. I have been abused in the past so I agree that no one deserves a beating and that goes for men as well as women. However, things aren't always what they seem. I'm going to tread lightly here because I don't want anyone to say I'm condoning any kind of domestic violence, but there are different situations.
There are situations where one partner (and it could be a man or a woman) is beaten and the other partner is the culprit. This could be a man and a women, or two men or two women. And this is probably the majority of cases.
But there are other cases that aren't so clear-cut.
I have personally known a woman who would provoke a fight, both verbally and physically. Some of her partners hit her. One of them didn't hit her but pinned her to the wall because she was attacking him and hitting him and she got bruised where he held her back because she was continually trying to hit him and her liver was so damaged from alcohol that she bruised easily. He was arrested but the case was dismissed at trial when it was found out that the police had threatened to have her probation revoked if she didn't testify against him. She didn't want to and said he hadn't hit her and was only trying to hold her back to keep her from hitting him.
Another woman I knew was a neighbor. My boyfriend at the time personally witnessed her boyfriend leaning over the bed to give her a kiss when he came home and she tore into the inside of his mouth with her fingernails and scratched him about the face and neck. He pushed her away and may have hit her trying to defend himself. He left and the police were called but he came back and hid in the closet. My boyfriend told the police that he was hiding in the closet and they had him come out and looked at his face and said "Oh my gosh, what happened to you". The police ended up not taking either of them to jail.
And of course, there are women who are angry for being rejected or have an ulterior motive and just lie, probably not the majority of cases but it does happen.
For now Avenatti is saying he never hit any woman. The story from CNN said the accuser wasn't his wife. His soon to be ex-wife said she said he never hit her. I'm going to wait to hear more information about who this woman is and what was the situation that lead to the altercation. Also are there any witnesses to anything.
Wintryjade
(814 posts)Big ole whatever for me. Doesn't touch the Democrats. Not ours.
Crunchy Frog
(26,582 posts)elocs
(22,574 posts)But you'd reckon that in today's atmosphere concerning abuse of women by men that he would be smart enough to realize that.
When I read: "We're told during today's confrontation the woman ran out of the apartment building and was on the sidewalk on her cellphone with sunglasses covering her eyes, screaming on the phone, "I can't believe you did this to me."" it sounds suspiciously like a set-up to me.
I am reminded of the part in the "Dirty Harry" movie where the psychopath pays to have himself beaten up so he could blame Dirty Harry for it. Could be some variation of that here, but just the accusation makes it tough for Avenatti.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)I once had a boyfriend hit me in the head just above my temple. You could not see a bruise probably because it was covered with hair. He went outsiders and I locked him out. He came back and demanded I let him back in. I opened the door with the chain, he burst in like Jack Nicholson in The Shining as I tried to stop him by closing the door. Hit him in the nose with the door as he forced his way in. I left on foot and called the police. They came and couldn't see where he had hit me but saw his bloody nose and almost took me to jail. Maybe something like that happened. I am really glad I got out of that situation soon afterwards.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)not surprising..