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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 06:56 PM Nov 2018

Michael Avenatti Arrested for felony domestic violence

Michael Avenatti, who became famous for representing Stormy Daniels in her battle with President Trump, has been arrested for felony domestic violence ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

Our law enforcement sources say Avenatti was arrested Wednesday after his estranged wife filed a felony DV report. We're told her face was "swollen and bruised."

Our sources say the alleged incident occurred Tuesday, but there was a confrontation Wednesday between the two at an exclusive apartment building in the Century City area of L.A.

We're told during today's confrontation the woman ran out of the apartment building and was on the sidewalk on her cellphone with sunglasses covering her eyes, screaming on the phone, "I can't believe you did this to me."

http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/



A report for the alleged abuse was filed Tuesday.
Michael Avenatti was arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence on Wednesday, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

A report for the alleged abuse was filed Tuesday, a Los Angeles police spokesman said.

Avenatti is Stormy Daniels' attorney. He has made a name for himself by going after President Trump and his White House.

Avenatti is awaiting booking, police said. It is unclear at which L.A. station he will be processed

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-avenatti-arrested-suspected-felony-domestic-violence-1161370




We can confirm that today LAPD Detectives arrested Michael Avenatti on suspicion of domestic violence. This is an ongoing investigation and we will provide more details as they become available.
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Michael Avenatti Arrested for felony domestic violence (Original Post) octoberlib Nov 2018 OP
Well, that's it for him if the report is true. If she hit him first, he should have responded pnwmom Nov 2018 #1
If it is true... FarPoint Nov 2018 #5
Oh come on. Codeine Nov 2018 #22
Lol. Tipperary Nov 2018 #70
I'd prefer to hear Michaels side of the story... FarPoint Nov 2018 #71
+1 pandr32 Nov 2018 #108
Both ex wives have denied any abuse since this story came out. Squinch Nov 2018 #178
You're sure it's against his wife? Separation Nov 2018 #213
The article initially claimed his wife. Codeine Nov 2018 #217
Gotcha Separation Nov 2018 #219
If it is true... mitch96 Nov 2018 #84
Oh crap eleny Nov 2018 #2
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #117
Well....that's it for him underpants Nov 2018 #3
It definitely is the end of his teased "presidential run." Miles Archer Nov 2018 #40
At least as a democrat marlakay Nov 2018 #42
You're right. Miles Archer Nov 2018 #65
Sure. It's only okay for Rs like when Trump assaulted Ivana eleny Nov 2018 #164
Yes, one less distraction. StTimofEdenRoc Nov 2018 #206
I never trusted this guy, at all. tman Nov 2018 #4
He seemed thin-skinned. Beakybird Nov 2018 #6
Gotta wash socks. BBL rzemanfl Nov 2018 #9
Gotta wash socks. BBL rzemanfl Nov 2018 #13
Do you use pintobean Nov 2018 #26
LOL. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #28
You seem to have an abundance. pintobean Nov 2018 #37
Both ex wives have denied any abuse since this story came out. Squinch Nov 2018 #179
TMZ? n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #7
The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed it. octoberlib Nov 2018 #14
It was on Raw Story...they have a pretty good reputation, I think. libdem4life Nov 2018 #172
My first reaction as well Sunsky Nov 2018 #25
TMZ focuses on celebrity news. And they seem vehemently anti-Trump. Calista241 Nov 2018 #171
Nope Sunsky Nov 2018 #173
Unfortunate, if true (for the sake of the victim) LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #8
Is TMZ a good source? Seems pretty tabloid-esque. JDC Nov 2018 #10
Local ABC station fallout87 Nov 2018 #15
It's been confirmed by Hollywood Reporter. octoberlib Nov 2018 #16
TMZ is run by Harvey Levin, an avid Trumper, but DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #45
Career ender, unless... Mike Nelson Nov 2018 #11
Me and others were flamed repeatedly for calling this guy a snake fallout87 Nov 2018 #12
I was a supporter. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #20
Good on you! fallout87 Nov 2018 #39
Indeed.. To be fair I left his camp when he made the "white men" comment. nt Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #41
Yep. Tipperary Nov 2018 #74
I support Michael FarPoint Nov 2018 #148
I first noticed on Twitter that he's thin-skinned. He blocked anybody who even mildly challenged him octoberlib Nov 2018 #51
Yep. I saw him go after Patti Solis Doyle Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #64
gee.......you are awfully quick to condemn. Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #115
Yes, a whole roster jberryhill Nov 2018 #118
revenge Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #126
Responsible for WHAT revelations jberryhill Nov 2018 #131
I will be waiting to see if you get a response. Tipperary Nov 2018 #150
People think he's some sort of Super Attorney Codeine Nov 2018 #160
I figured he was a snake all along...but I'm still a supporter cbdo2007 Nov 2018 #23
Sainthood? fallout87 Nov 2018 #31
i agree.. sometimes it takes a snake to bring down a snake.. just how effective... samnsara Nov 2018 #58
Trump has not been brought down yet, and if that happens The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #80
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #29
I didn't see anything wrong with them. octoberlib Nov 2018 #60
Gloating is never a good look jberryhill Nov 2018 #66
No shit!! I had three posts hidden in the last few weeks calling him out Roland99 Nov 2018 #50
Yeah, there's a real Avenatti fan crew with a twitchy alert finger jberryhill Nov 2018 #127
And they're out in force again with their paranoia and blind loyalty Roland99 Nov 2018 #191
LOL, a "I told you" post already, I was waiting for this. nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #62
I never trusted this guy! Initech Nov 2018 #145
Both ex wives have denied any abuse since this story came out. Squinch Nov 2018 #180
Being an aggressive hothead in public Codeine Nov 2018 #17
That would be an improvement jberryhill Nov 2018 #46
+++ nt brer cat Nov 2018 #49
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #18
I guess those here who were advocating he run for president can tap the brakes on that. BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #19
So ... TMZ says he hit her yesterday, but then she was with him again today? mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #21
Apparently there was enough evidence to arrest him fallout87 Nov 2018 #24
The article says she went back to get some belongings from the apartment onenote Nov 2018 #33
I guess I probably should've read the article and not just the OP :( mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #59
She went back with a police escort to pick up some of her belongings. He'd kicked her out octoberlib Nov 2018 #34
Ah ... didn't know that part of the story ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #54
This is not a good look for you. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #38
It won't be the first time ... look, the guy has made a lot of powerful enemies ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #67
Well sheshe2 Nov 2018 #53
Lisa-Storie Avenatti dalton99a Nov 2018 #27
This is his ex wife. Apparently, it's a different woman. grossproffit Nov 2018 #169
Yeah, he lost me pretty quickly. Man, life is a Social Psych course these days! nolabear Nov 2018 #30
i will wait to pass judgement on this samnsara Nov 2018 #32
Thank you meluvrem Nov 2018 #48
What's so great about the timing? The election is over John Fante Nov 2018 #140
Agreed Gregory Peccary Nov 2018 #85
Same here. mountain grammy Nov 2018 #207
Unfortunately Fox and other RW sources are gloating. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #35
AP, The Hill have it: NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #36
he brought trump to his knees with the Stormy Daniels case.... samnsara Nov 2018 #43
How? jberryhill Nov 2018 #52
By implicating Michael Cohen in campaign finance violations. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #89
Bullshit jberryhill Nov 2018 #102
Plus, the FBI had been looking at Cohen since late in 2016 The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #113
Fair enough. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #152
And the criminal investigators don't have them? jberryhill Nov 2018 #158
To the public. For his own personal enrichment, I suppose. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #175
I think public perception of Trump has been pretty consistent jberryhill Nov 2018 #193
I suppose we need to define "consistent". OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #208
He got it in the court of public opinion and it led to the raid on Michael Cohen ain't that enough UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #92
Bullshit jberryhill Nov 2018 #109
It didn't lead to the raid on Cohen. Cohen had been under investigation by the feds The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #124
This is my sentiment, too DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #56
That's just bullshit right there jberryhill Nov 2018 #68
Thank you. Tipperary Nov 2018 #79
The feds were already investigating Cohen *before* Avenatti sued on behalf of Daniels. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #100
The media lemmings don't understand that jberryhill Nov 2018 #112
I'll give Avenatti credit for being a skillful media manipulator. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #116
Christ. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #57
He really didn't "bring Trump to his knees." The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #72
There were some interesting filings last week jberryhill Nov 2018 #77
Maybe he was too busy with tv appearances to do his legal research. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #78
He'll be out on bail for sure jberryhill Nov 2018 #83
Yup. All you idiots, get the hell out of my courtroom. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #136
Not only that, but now rumpie can hurl insults at him for this crime. Tipperary Nov 2018 #95
Did he? Last time I checked, Trump is still in the White House. bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #81
Well he sure as shit got the ball rolling .......................nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #93
No, the ball had already been set rolling by the feds long before The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #110
He got the ball rolling in public.....he was the mouthpiece and he did that well. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #123
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise!!! Roland99 Nov 2018 #44
apparently he is jack's raging bile duct.... unblock Nov 2018 #134
Wow. How surprising (not) Oneironaut Nov 2018 #47
100% Same Takket Nov 2018 #61
Score so far is Trump 1 : Avenatti 0 jberryhill Nov 2018 #73
Yes, and now it is worse. Tipperary Nov 2018 #98
+1...I completely agree Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #120
Me, too. Seems like every time someone turns up on TV who loudly denounces Trump, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #170
Yep. +1000 Freethinker65 Nov 2018 #147
I will reserve judgment until the facts come out harumph Nov 2018 #55
Hooboy. The vultures are feasting on Twitter. nolabear Nov 2018 #63
I agree nolabear... HipChick Nov 2018 #114
Sounds like a set up.. HipChick Nov 2018 #69
How do you figure? He was arrested for felony domestic abuse The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #76
His wife set him up? Codeine Nov 2018 #87
The same way they got rid of Al Franken ? HipChick Nov 2018 #94
It's a ridiculous leap Codeine Nov 2018 #97
"It's a ridiculous leap to assume his wife faked a beating." Denzil_DC Nov 2018 #212
The article initially claimed his wife Codeine Nov 2018 #220
+1. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #119
Franken was never accused of felony domestic abuse The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #121
His wife just came out supporting him HipChick Nov 2018 #154
We'll see how it plays out. nt Codeine Nov 2018 #156
His wife said no history of DV ever HipChick Nov 2018 #161
His 'estranged' wife set him up. Hugin Nov 2018 #214
Yep. Ex wife says the story is not true. Squinch Nov 2018 #181
Well if true this is too bad. He served his purpose though and mission accomplished. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #75
If this allegation is true MontanaMama Nov 2018 #82
Exactly.... HipChick Nov 2018 #106
The other odd thing MontanaMama Nov 2018 #139
I'm going to wait to see what develops. Hugin Nov 2018 #215
and from now on Republicans accused of domestic abuse can point at Avenatti to justify their actions 0rganism Nov 2018 #86
Sounds like Alan Grayson, if true. Hoyt Nov 2018 #88
I thought the same thing sheshe2 Nov 2018 #111
I remain skeptical of Mr. Avenatti... LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #90
If he did it *F* him but I hope Stormy's case ain't affected. UTUSN Nov 2018 #91
I remember the net nannies calling people who were suspect of Avenatti as being "concerned". demmiblue Nov 2018 #96
Hero worship is a funny ol' thing. nt Codeine Nov 2018 #101
Yep, and worse. Hoyt Nov 2018 #103
Just reported on MSNBC. Hoyt Nov 2018 #99
He ever do anything like this before? BlueStater Nov 2018 #104
The likes of Sean Hannity will run with this to say this is the sort of people the Doodley Nov 2018 #105
Trump beat and raped his first wife. BlueStater Nov 2018 #107
This will be used to discredit all allegations against Trump, starting with Hannity tonight. Doodley Nov 2018 #132
No it isn't bad news for our fight. It's great news, if we finally cut him loose before ha LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Nov 2018 #133
UPDATE: Avenatti's wife denies she was a victim of domestic violence MountCleaners Nov 2018 #122
Well that certainly adds a bit of weirdness Codeine Nov 2018 #130
Par for this course jberryhill Nov 2018 #137
+1 n/t Hugin Nov 2018 #216
Good. He was starting to become more of a liability than an asset Azathoth Nov 2018 #125
The TMZ report may be wrong Gothmog Nov 2018 #129
They've edited to say a woman. He's separated Roland99 Nov 2018 #135
LAPD Twitter octoberlib Nov 2018 #143
The evening news said he was arrested yesterday but has not been booked. Autumn Nov 2018 #167
I'm confused. ananda Nov 2018 #138
Someone at TMZ made an incorrect assumption jberryhill Nov 2018 #142
I believe he has been set up. Sounds fake. Doodley Nov 2018 #141
I can't believe you did this to me she said loudly so witnesses could hear. How convenient. Doodley Nov 2018 #144
"She hit me first" is what he allegedly said. grossproffit Nov 2018 #168
Definitely reserving judgement until the facts come out. roamer65 Nov 2018 #146
I never liked him Raine Nov 2018 #149
A lot of you guys are gonna look stupid when the facts come out. phleshdef Nov 2018 #151
This would be one scenario. He exposes that he has been set up. He investigates with help of police. Doodley Nov 2018 #153
He's separated from his wife. It was a different woman Roland99 Nov 2018 #155
Wreaks of setup. phleshdef Nov 2018 #157
Uhhhh Roland99 Nov 2018 #159
#believewomen Takket Nov 2018 #190
Doesn't apply for the Avenatti afficiandos Roland99 Nov 2018 #197
"Reeks" is the word you were looking for. Tipperary Nov 2018 #210
He hasn't been charged. Now it isn't involving his wife, it is Doodley Nov 2018 #166
Or that's paranoia Roland99 Nov 2018 #176
No, she's denying it happened to her. Codeine Nov 2018 #162
Which makes it all the more shady. I don't believe any of it. phleshdef Nov 2018 #163
Hokaaaaay Roland99 Nov 2018 #165
Hokay yourself, as more comes out, looks like my suspicion us credible phleshdef Nov 2018 #183
How so? Roland99 Nov 2018 #184
Go read other reads for yourself. phleshdef Nov 2018 #185
Ha! Oh so lame. Doesn't work like that. Pony up Roland99 Nov 2018 #186
It works however I want it to work whether you like it or not. phleshdef Nov 2018 #188
Because you have nothing. Thought so Roland99 Nov 2018 #189
There are threads all over gen discussion backing me up. phleshdef Nov 2018 #192
Bwa ha ha ha ha. And all the threads are full of misinformation Roland99 Nov 2018 #194
You are so transparent. This has really bruised your ego. phleshdef Nov 2018 #195
Ah ha ha ha ha Roland99 Nov 2018 #196
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #198
How nice of you. I ask you for your proof and you insult me Roland99 Nov 2018 #199
You are siding with the guy that tried to frame Mueller. phleshdef Nov 2018 #200
Wtf are you talking about?? Roland99 Nov 2018 #201
Go read other threads and you'll know. phleshdef Nov 2018 #202
Wow. Project much? Roland99 Nov 2018 #203
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #204
Such clever insults! Wow. Ya cut me deep! Roland99 Nov 2018 #205
Calling someone a troll because they disagree with you? Tipperary Nov 2018 #211
This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Nov 2018 #187
Maybe she was paid a lot of $$$ to deny it happened? MichMan Nov 2018 #174
Yes, it's a thing. AOC drama proved to not be true, now Jacob Wohl aka Surefire Autumn Nov 2018 #224
Smells like bullshit orangecrush Nov 2018 #177
I'm withholding judgement for now. cannabis_flower Nov 2018 #182
This is his. He is not a part of the Democratic Party nor has any relevance. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #209
Well, I guess that takes care of that. Crunchy Frog Nov 2018 #218
If we hold to an accusation automatically means guilty, then Avenatti is through. elocs Nov 2018 #221
Not only that.. cannabis_flower Nov 2018 #223
This guy was always ALL about himself.. disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #222

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
1. Well, that's it for him if the report is true. If she hit him first, he should have responded
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 06:58 PM
Nov 2018

by either calling 911 or by telling her that he would if she didn't leave.

Hitting her back was not an option.

FarPoint

(12,361 posts)
5. If it is true...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:01 PM
Nov 2018

I feel a big pay-off set up....I really like Michael...sure hope it is not true.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Oh come on.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:10 PM
Nov 2018

What’s more likely — an aggressive loudmouth turns out to be a physical bully or that his wife has been paid off to fake a beating?

FarPoint

(12,361 posts)
71. I'd prefer to hear Michaels side of the story...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:38 PM
Nov 2018

He certainly caused enough ruckus for the tRumpsters and tRump...plus irritated a few Democrats....so, yea, I do want to hear his side. No prior history of domestic violence...

Separation

(1,975 posts)
213. You're sure it's against his wife?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:09 AM
Nov 2018

I just read an article saying that they haven't named the victim.

Or am I missing something very obvious.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
84. If it is true...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:50 PM
Nov 2018

Lets see how it unfolds.. And when I first heard I thought this has Rodger Stone's fingerprints all over it..
Dirty tricks abound.... Then again Avenatti runs on 100 octane testosterone..

m

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
40. It definitely is the end of his teased "presidential run."
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:22 PM
Nov 2018

I never really expressed an opinion on Avenatti here, because a lot of what he talked about was reasonably "simpatico" with what many of us think, but there was this other part of him that just never added up to me. That was the stuff I kept to myself.

He's not Trump, though. I don't see him bouncing back unscathed from this. I'm sure he'll continue to be an attorney, but his self-marketing program now looks like Swiss cheese.

Whatever happens, though, he definitely won't be on the 2020 ticket (not that I ever truly believed he'd be on it in the first place).

Problem is, Trump and his lackeys will probably use this as fodder against Dems, even though Avenatti holds no elected office and is not our "spokesperson." That won't stop what's coming in the way of backlash.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
65. You're right.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:35 PM
Nov 2018

Yes, it is still "innocent until proven guilty." We don't know all of the details behind this.

That said, as a Democrat, I'm not going to rush in and defend him against "false accusations," especially because I don't know the truth behind what happened. That's up to our legal system.

But if it were Republicans discussing Republicans, the cries of "witch hunt" would already be out there.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
172. It was on Raw Story...they have a pretty good reputation, I think.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:09 PM
Nov 2018

But not many care. He lacked personal and political depth, IMO. Good for a defense attorney, I'm sure, but he'd best stay in that lane.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
25. My first reaction as well
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:14 PM
Nov 2018

Any post here needs a second source if TMZ is one. TMZ has taken over from the National Enquirer and has become Trump's mouthpiece.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
171. TMZ focuses on celebrity news. And they seem vehemently anti-Trump.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:05 PM
Nov 2018

They are a gossip / rumor / paparazzi creepy celeb site, but it appears they hate Trump as much as we do.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
8. Unfortunate, if true (for the sake of the victim)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:03 PM
Nov 2018

But hopefully this will put an end to any talk of a political future for this guy.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
10. Is TMZ a good source? Seems pretty tabloid-esque.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:04 PM
Nov 2018

Not saying it did or did not happen. Just not jumping straight to a conclusion based on just this report.

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
11. Career ender, unless...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:05 PM
Nov 2018

… his wife is bigger and stronger, which I doubt. He looks like a strong guy - and hitting a spouse is always wrong, anyway.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
12. Me and others were flamed repeatedly for calling this guy a snake
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:05 PM
Nov 2018

Where are his supporters now????????

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
20. I was a supporter.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:08 PM
Nov 2018

I have no problem saying I was wrong. I am happy this happened now rather than later. Bye bye Michael.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
51. I first noticed on Twitter that he's thin-skinned. He blocked anybody who even mildly challenged him
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nov 2018

Dems and Repubs alike. it's the one thing he has in common with Trump.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
115. gee.......you are awfully quick to condemn.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:06 PM
Nov 2018

Is there anyone more desirable to be shut up by dirty tricks than Avenatti?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
118. Yes, a whole roster
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:08 PM
Nov 2018

Cohen, at this point, for one.

Avenatti is not a concern for Trump at all. So far, Avenatti has managed to have a court award Trump's attorney's fees in the defamation case, and the contract case is going nowhere.

Of what possible concern is Avenatti to Trump?

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
126. revenge
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:11 PM
Nov 2018

Avenatti certainly was a thorn in Trump's side and responsible for many revelations. Trump doesn't forget.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
131. Responsible for WHAT revelations
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:12 PM
Nov 2018

Read this timeline and tell me what revelations Avenatti is responsible for:

https://www.commoncause.org/resource/common-cause-v-trump-cohen-stormy-daniels/

In January 2018, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Michael Cohen, who was President Trump’s personal lawyer, top lawyer at the Trump Organization and self-described Trump “fix-it guy” back in 2016, had set up a shell company in Delaware (Essential Consultants LLC) in October 2016 and arranged a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels through that shell company right before the November 2016 presidential election. Ms Daniels had earlier alleged that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 and in the Fall of 2016 was in talks with one or more national media outlets to go on the record with her story.

On January 22, 2018, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging reason to believe that the payment of $130,000 from Essential Consultants LLC to Ms. Daniels was an unreported and illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign because the payment was for the purpose of influencing the 2016 presidential general election and was made in coordination with the campaign via Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen. At that time, the source of the $130,000 was unknown–and Common Cause named both the Trump Organization and “John Doe” as possible sources.

------

What "revelations"?
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
150. I will be waiting to see if you get a response.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:38 PM
Nov 2018

But I am tired from a long day hiking...maybe morning.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
23. I figured he was a snake all along...but I'm still a supporter
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:12 PM
Nov 2018

Of his wanting to bring down Trump.

Or are you only in favor of someone on the verge of sainthood bringing Trump down?? Lol

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
31. Sainthood?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:16 PM
Nov 2018

I don't consider myself a saint, but i know not to hit women. How low is the bar for you?

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
58. i agree.. sometimes it takes a snake to bring down a snake.. just how effective...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:31 PM
Nov 2018

..would Avenatti have been if he used 'please' 'thank you' and 'may I' when dealing with trump? He has helped bring him down.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
80. Trump has not been brought down yet, and if that happens
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:46 PM
Nov 2018

it will be at the hands of Bob Mueller and the new Democratic House. Avenatti is just a fart in a whirlwind.

Response to fallout87 (Reply #12)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
66. Gloating is never a good look
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:35 PM
Nov 2018

I've been a critic of Avenatti from the get-go, but that has more to do with the puffery around his actual legal acumen. I get why people on DU like him, just like I get why people on DU were fans of Assange.

I'm sure there will be further developments around this story as well, but I just wish that people would recognize that differences of opinion around media figures happen, and that having a different opinion does not make one a troll.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
50. No shit!! I had three posts hidden in the last few weeks calling him out
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nov 2018

He’s a grifter and now apparently a dirtbag, too!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
127. Yeah, there's a real Avenatti fan crew with a twitchy alert finger
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:11 PM
Nov 2018

One of the effects of that has been that factually-supported criticism of Avenatti gets scrubbed from DU.

I had pointed out some of the problems with Tully's coffee early on and found out that you can't fight blind hero worship on DU.

Similar thing happened in the past with Assange, so I'm not to worried about it.

Initech

(100,071 posts)
145. I never trusted this guy!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:23 PM
Nov 2018

Creepy dude who represents porn stars is definitely a loose cannon waiting to happen.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. Being an aggressive hothead in public
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:08 PM
Nov 2018

can unfortunately lead to being an aggressive hothead in private.

One hopes this will stop DU’s endless stream of “Avenatti 2020” posts.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
46. That would be an improvement
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:26 PM
Nov 2018

I was just preparing to compose an update post on the Stormy Daniels litigation. In short, while we were watching the election, he moved to amend the complaint again, this time to remove the defamation claim against Cohen, since he figured out how SLAPP works.

BannonsLiver

(16,386 posts)
19. I guess those here who were advocating he run for president can tap the brakes on that.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:08 PM
Nov 2018

I had the guy pegged as a slime from the beginning. What I didn’t know was that he was a slime who likes to beat women.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. So ... TMZ says he hit her yesterday, but then she was with him again today?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:09 PM
Nov 2018

And apparently went out and made enough of a scene on the sidewalk, saying incriminating things like 'I can't believe you did this to me' down her cellphone, that people took note of it?

I'm not going to speculate TOO much here until I hear ... a little bit more detail, is all ...

Hope she's okay, in any case.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
24. Apparently there was enough evidence to arrest him
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:12 PM
Nov 2018

on FELONY domestic Violence. That doesn't happen by chance or on flimsy evidence. Reports are that her face is bruised, swollen.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
33. The article says she went back to get some belongings from the apartment
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:16 PM
Nov 2018

I don't think that's the same as being "with him".

Obviously we don't know the whole story. Until we do, I'll reserve judgment, although I will add that if, as he claims, she hit him first, I still have a problem with him hitting her back.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
34. She went back with a police escort to pick up some of her belongings. He'd kicked her out
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:18 PM
Nov 2018

the day before. She must have filed charges after that.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
67. It won't be the first time ... look, the guy has made a lot of powerful enemies ...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:36 PM
Nov 2018

And relations with 'estranged spouses' can be ... tense.

Just saying I'd like some more details before I form a definitive opinion is all.

I was unaware that she'd gotten a police escort today, guess I should've read the article not just the OP

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
53. Well
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:30 PM
Nov 2018

Star Member mr_lebowski (4,330 posts)
21. So ... TMZ says he hit her yesterday, but then she was with him again today?

.......

Spousal abuse is very complicated. Women don’t always leave their abusers. There may be children involved. There are a lot of reasons many times they wait too long and they’re dead. As I said it’s complicated.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
30. Yeah, he lost me pretty quickly. Man, life is a Social Psych course these days!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:16 PM
Nov 2018

I enjoyed the moxie at first but he began to strike me as too close to the gutter fighter type. And frankly I have no use for that.

Fascinating how much is boiling down to relationships between men and women these days. I’m in between righteous outrage and guilty voyeurism. What a world...

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
140. What's so great about the timing? The election is over
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:16 PM
Nov 2018

and the whole Stormy bruhaha is old news anyway.

This is actually great news for Democrats - "Avanetti for POTUS" was a terrible idea from the get-go. This sqaushes that, and long before the primaries too.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
35. Unfortunately Fox and other RW sources are gloating.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:18 PM
Nov 2018

I'm not a fan of Avenatti but I'm not going to gloat about this. It's bad no matter who does it, and I hate that (assuming this is true) he's damaged his own liberal reputation. The up-side, if there is one, is that his ego trip to a run for the presidency just got derailed.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
43. he brought trump to his knees with the Stormy Daniels case....
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

...he has my gratitude. I never thought he was Prez material but I am glad he was on our side when we needed some help. I wish him luck with the case and I hope he gets a judge who is fair.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. How?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:30 PM
Nov 2018

Last week he tried to amend the complaint in that case to remove the defamation claim against Cohen. The remaining claim for recission of the contract is likely to be dismissed at the hearing next month, and the only thing he's accomplished so far is that the court has awarded Trump his attorney's fees in the defamation case he filed against Trump.

The best outcome for Daniels in the contract case at this point is that she'll be ordered to give the $130k back. If you want to call that a win.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
89. By implicating Michael Cohen in campaign finance violations.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:53 PM
Nov 2018

And, by extension, implicating Donald Trump in same.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
102. Bullshit
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:01 PM
Nov 2018

Avenatti did not even BEGIN to represent Daniels until the very end of February at the earliest, since Cohen had gotten the arbitration award against her.

Complaints were filed with the DOJ in JANUARY by Common Cause just after the WSJ got the story about the payout mechanics.

What you believe is factually untrue.

https://www.commoncause.org/resource/common-cause-v-trump-cohen-stormy-daniels/

In January 2018, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Michael Cohen, who was President Trump’s personal lawyer, top lawyer at the Trump Organization and self-described Trump “fix-it guy” back in 2016, had set up a shell company in Delaware (Essential Consultants LLC) in October 2016 and arranged a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels through that shell company right before the November 2016 presidential election. Ms Daniels had earlier alleged that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 and in the Fall of 2016 was in talks with one or more national media outlets to go on the record with her story.

On January 22, 2018, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging reason to believe that the payment of $130,000 from Essential Consultants LLC to Ms. Daniels was an unreported and illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign because the payment was for the purpose of influencing the 2016 presidential general election and was made in coordination with the campaign via Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen. At that time, the source of the $130,000 was unknown–and Common Cause named both the Trump Organization and “John Doe” as possible sources.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
113. Plus, the FBI had been looking at Cohen since late in 2016
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:05 PM
Nov 2018

because his name appeared in the Steele dossier.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
158. And the criminal investigators don't have them?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:51 PM
Nov 2018

The entire contents of Cohen's residence and office were seized by federal criminal prosecutors.

To whom did Avenatti "reveal" them, and to what end?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
175. To the public. For his own personal enrichment, I suppose.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:13 PM
Nov 2018

It's ridiculous to assert, as you're attempting, that he had no impact as it relates to Trump. Do you think that public perception about Trump's corruption was not affected by Avenatti?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
193. I think public perception of Trump has been pretty consistent
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:28 PM
Nov 2018

Is there someone who thought Trump was a wonderful guy until Avenatti sued over the contract? I would seriously want to meet that person.

I suppose we need to define "impact". The only thing he has accomplished as an attorney in relation to Trump is that he has obtained a judgment adverse to his own client in the defamation case.

Trump lost the popular vote and has never had the approval of a majority of the public.

Avenatti's appearances on TV news and opinion programs watched by a sliver of the public have the primary impact of reinforcing negative perception of Trump among those who already have a negative view of Trump (which, again, has always been a majority).

But, no, I don't believe, even if "public perception" mattered to the practical reality of Trump not being one inch closer to exiting the White House, that there is any substantial portion of the population who changed their mind about the admitted "pussy grabber" as a consequence of anything that Avenatti has done.

That feeling of "Oh boy, he really gave it to Trump this time" that one gets when Avenatti does his TV thing doesn't have anything to do with "public perception" generally.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
208. I suppose we need to define "consistent".
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:47 AM
Nov 2018

Trump has bled support for two years now. I guess that, in one measure, that's "consistency".

Let's put this simply, shall we? It's safe to assume that a large majority of the voting population knows of Stormy Daniels. It's safe to assume that at least a plurality of the voting population is aware of Donald Trump's financial improprieties. And it's a clear bet that a very tiny minority of the voting population has ever heard of Common Cause.

You're welcome to draw your own conclusions.

N.b.: "... one inch closer to exiting the White House"? Da fuq?

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
92. He got it in the court of public opinion and it led to the raid on Michael Cohen ain't that enough
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:55 PM
Nov 2018

for you?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
109. Bullshit
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:03 PM
Nov 2018

It did NOT lead to the raid on Cohen.

You are simply wrong about that. The papers filed by the USAO-SDNY made it clear that the referral to their office was WEEKS before Avenatti even represented Daniels.

https://www.commoncause.org/resource/common-cause-v-trump-cohen-stormy-daniels/

In January 2018, the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Michael Cohen, who was President Trump’s personal lawyer, top lawyer at the Trump Organization and self-described Trump “fix-it guy” back in 2016, had set up a shell company in Delaware (Essential Consultants LLC) in October 2016 and arranged a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels through that shell company right before the November 2016 presidential election. Ms Daniels had earlier alleged that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 and in the Fall of 2016 was in talks with one or more national media outlets to go on the record with her story.

On January 22, 2018, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging reason to believe that the payment of $130,000 from Essential Consultants LLC to Ms. Daniels was an unreported and illegal in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign because the payment was for the purpose of influencing the 2016 presidential general election and was made in coordination with the campaign via Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen. At that time, the source of the $130,000 was unknown–and Common Cause named both the Trump Organization and “John Doe” as possible sources.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
124. It didn't lead to the raid on Cohen. Cohen had been under investigation by the feds
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:10 PM
Nov 2018

well before Avenatti commenced the Daniels case.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
56. This is my sentiment, too
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:30 PM
Nov 2018

When everyone was cowering in fear of Trump, Avenatti took him head on. If not for Stormy Daniels lawsuit, we wouldn't have the Cohen indictment, conviction and co-operation that itself brough out other co-operation either voluntary or through grants of immunity.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
68. That's just bullshit right there
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:36 PM
Nov 2018

The wheels were in motion on the matters that led to the Cohen indictment back in January. Avenatti had nothing to do with the referral that Mueller made to the USAO-SDNY on the Cohen stuff.

Avenatti is merely the rooster claiming to have made the sun come up on that one.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
100. The feds were already investigating Cohen *before* Avenatti sued on behalf of Daniels.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:01 PM
Nov 2018

Remember, Cohen's name turned up in the Steele dossier, according to which Cohen entered Prague through Germany at the height of the 2016 campaign in order to meet with Russians. The FBI had obtained the dossier even before the election, but the Daniels lawsuit wasn't commenced until March of 2018. Cohen was already in the FBI's crosshairs on account of the Russia investigation, as well as for some unrelated dodgy business matters. Avenatti didn't cause the downfall of Cohen and he didn't make a dent in Trump - especially since Daniels now owes Trump a lot of money for attorneys' fees for Avenatti's ill-considered libel suit.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
112. The media lemmings don't understand that
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:04 PM
Nov 2018

The amazing thing about the entire Avenatti act is the way that he got people to believe in a false chronology.

Most people don't pay attention to the details, and it is really something how persistent this completely false belief is.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
72. He really didn't "bring Trump to his knees."
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:38 PM
Nov 2018

He publicized Daniels' prior relationship with Daniels by filing a lawsuit to rescind the NDA. But the real, hard work was done behind the scenes (as usual) by the federal investigators who were investigating Michael Cohen, which investigation started before Avenatti sued and which would have happened irrespective of the Daniels suit. And a part of Avenatti's litigation (Daniels' meritless libel claim against Trump) has resulted in a huge judgment against Daniels for attorneys' fees.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
77. There were some interesting filings last week
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:42 PM
Nov 2018

Oddly enough, I was going to post an update tonight, since there was some odd action during the election.

As you may know, the issue of the contract recission and mootness is fully briefed now for hearing at the beginning of December.

However, out of the blue, Avenatti filed last week to amend the complaint a second time - this time to REMOVE the defamation claim against Cohen, because Avenatti has finally figured out how SLAPP works, and he wants to avoid a second judgment against Daniels.

Oddly enough, Cohen's lawyers are OPPOSING Avenatti's motion to amend, because they WANT to go after Daniels for fees on that one.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
78. Maybe he was too busy with tv appearances to do his legal research.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:44 PM
Nov 2018

I hope they let him out of jail in time to argue those motions, and I'll bet kroner to krugerrands that he loses the motion to dismiss for mootness.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
83. He'll be out on bail for sure
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:49 PM
Nov 2018

It's a really weird case at this point.

The "large scale view" of this thing is:

1. Plaintiff is arguing that it wants to litigate issues which the Defendant admits, and

2. Defendant is arguing that it wants to litigate counterclaims that the Plaintiff is seeking to dismiss.

Just on those dynamics alone, if I was the judge I would certainly be warming up my GTFO hammer.
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
95. Not only that, but now rumpie can hurl insults at him for this crime.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

Even if not true, this is a huge hit to his rep.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
81. Did he? Last time I checked, Trump is still in the White House.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:47 PM
Nov 2018

And we haven't heard about the Stormy Daniels case for several months, it's basically vanished.

It was nice having a fighter like him, but he always seemed more concerned with his own image and getting personal publicity than actually making things happen judicially speaking. If what's been accused is true, I won't miss him and I don't think it's much of a loss.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
110. No, the ball had already been set rolling by the feds long before
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:03 PM
Nov 2018

the Daniels case got started. The FBI had been investigating Cohen for months and the feds would have charged him regardless of the Daniels lawsuit.

Oneironaut

(5,494 posts)
47. Wow. How surprising (not)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:26 PM
Nov 2018

I've always seen Avenatti as being a total grandstanding douche bag. I enjoyed his trolling of Trump, but I never liked him.

He's basically Trump if Trump was on the Democratic Party's side.

Takket

(21,565 posts)
61. 100% Same
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:32 PM
Nov 2018

I can't believe there was actually threads on here saying they would support him for president.

Why?

Because he sued drumpf 100 times?

Guy made a big show of filing lawsuits and I never heard of him actually following through on any of them for his clients.

He is a camera loving opportunist that saw Stormy as a chance to make his name famous, and it worked, and a lot of the same people that can't understand how deplorables are such suckers believing anything drumpf says were down on their knees worshiping Avenatti.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
73. Score so far is Trump 1 : Avenatti 0
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:38 PM
Nov 2018

The only thing Avenatti has accomplished for Daniels so far is to have court award Trump his attorney's fees against Daniels in the defamation case.

Last week, Avenatti did some more flailing around in the contract case, and is actually being opposed in his attempt to withdraw the defamation claim against Cohen, because Cohen wants to get his fees awarded too!
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
98. Yes, and now it is worse.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:59 PM
Nov 2018

Many of us were never a fan of his. And were attacked here for saying so.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
120. +1...I completely agree
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:09 PM
Nov 2018

And frankly I have been surprised by some here who were so willing to jump on his bandwagon as some savior for Democrats.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
170. Me, too. Seems like every time someone turns up on TV who loudly denounces Trump,
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:04 PM
Nov 2018

that person is the new knight in shining armor and people get all fanboy and go OMG OMG HE'S GOT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT! CUZ HE WAS LIKE TOTALLY MEAN TO TRUMP!!! without considering whether that person is actually qualified and not just another shiny object celebrity who's never even run for their local park commission.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
63. Hooboy. The vultures are feasting on Twitter.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:34 PM
Nov 2018

They’re acting as though he’s some huge loss and grave dancing as though the Dems has some kind of hopes riding on him. He was never actually important except as Stormy’s lawyer and advocate. I’d suggest “meh” and move on.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
76. How do you figure? He was arrested for felony domestic abuse
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:42 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:06 PM - Edit history (1)

and the ex has bruises to back up her claim. Pretty much like WH aide Rob Porter, whose head we all demanded on the basis of similar allegations (and bruises). It's wrong, whether their guy or our guy does it.

Update: Turns out the complainant isn't the ex but some other woman. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
94. The same way they got rid of Al Franken ?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

Not that absurd...

I'll wait till I can see some facts...

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
97. It's a ridiculous leap
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:59 PM
Nov 2018

to assume his wife faked a beating. I know you guys like to have heroes and all but at a certain point it all gets rather silly.

Denzil_DC

(7,237 posts)
212. "It's a ridiculous leap to assume his wife faked a beating."
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:55 AM
Nov 2018

Avenatti's wife wasn't involved at all, let alone beaten.

Try to get some decent information before posting.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
220. The article initially claimed his wife
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:02 AM
Nov 2018

as the victim. That has since been changed. Even a cursory reading of the thread would have revealed that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
121. Franken was never accused of felony domestic abuse
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:09 PM
Nov 2018

and there were no victims with bruises. There is no comparison between the two situations.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
154. His wife just came out supporting him
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:49 PM
Nov 2018

a lot of you are quick to put him the barrel without facts

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
82. If this allegation is true
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:49 PM
Nov 2018

then he’s done. His moment in the sun is o.v.e.r. I suppose there’s a chance that he could have been set up. tRump and his goons hate him with the heat of 1000 suns and I wouldn’t put it past them to pull something like that.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
139. The other odd thing
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:16 PM
Nov 2018

in the TMZ report is the woman ran from the building yelling “I can’t believe you did this to me...” It just seems over dramatic. Don’t get me wrong, if he hit her, he should go down hard. This whole thing strikes me as weird.

Justice Boofer is probably going to have an extra beer tonight.

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
215. I'm going to wait to see what develops.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:31 AM
Nov 2018

This turn of events makes too many of the wrong people too happy.

0rganism

(23,953 posts)
86. and from now on Republicans accused of domestic abuse can point at Avenatti to justify their actions
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:51 PM
Nov 2018

just like how they point at the asshole who shot Rep. Scalise to justify politically-motivated mass shootings by Republicans.

and our crack corps of professional journalists will perk up and say "yep, both sides do it," without ever stopping to consider if that's really a point at all.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
90. I remain skeptical of Mr. Avenatti...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:55 PM
Nov 2018


What a shithead...allegedly...

( Not criticizing a "Democrat." I'm criticizing an accused assaulter of women.)

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
105. The likes of Sean Hannity will run with this to say this is the sort of people the
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:02 PM
Nov 2018

Democrats have to try to bring Trump down and the fake news has provided a platform for him because they hate Trump. So, this is very bad news in our fight against Trump.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
128. No it isn't bad news for our fight. It's great news, if we finally cut him loose before ha
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:12 PM
Nov 2018

fucked us. And he would have fucked us.

Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #128)

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
122. UPDATE: Avenatti's wife denies she was a victim of domestic violence
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:10 PM
Nov 2018
Avenatti's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. But in a statement to BuzzFeed News, attorneys for Avenatti's wife, Lisa Storie-Avenatti, refuted reports by TMZ that the alleged incident involved her.

"My client and I have reviewed the TMZ article alleging that my client, Lisa Storie-Avenatti, has been injured and that Michael Avenatti has been arrested as a result of some incident that occurred between them. This article is not true as it pertains to my client," the statement said. "Ms. Storie-Avenatti was not subject to any such incident on Tuesday night. Further, she was not at Mr. Avenatti’s apartment on the date that this alleged incident occurred. My client states that there has never been domestic violence in her relationship with Michael and that she has never known Michael to be physically violent toward anyone."


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiarosenbaum/michael-avenatti-arrested

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
125. Good. He was starting to become more of a liability than an asset
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:10 PM
Nov 2018

And the way he was using Stormy Daniel's case as nothing but a vehicle for his own ambitions was unethical.

Get him out of the picture now before he has a chance to turn our primary into a Trumpian clownshow.

ananda

(28,859 posts)
138. I'm confused.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:15 PM
Nov 2018

The wife's statement says he was never there at the time
of the alleged incident and that he has never abused her.

So... what??????

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
142. Someone at TMZ made an incorrect assumption
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:17 PM
Nov 2018

There would be little reason for his estranged wife to be at his apartment, since she had kicked him out of the house months ago.

It appears that he has been arrested, but that his estranged wife is not the alleged victim.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
168. "She hit me first" is what he allegedly said.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:00 PM
Nov 2018

That sounds like an admission of guilt if he indeed did say that.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
149. I never liked him
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:33 PM
Nov 2018

he always seemed like a fast talking sleazy opportunistic media hound with a real temper.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
151. A lot of you guys are gonna look stupid when the facts come out.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:39 PM
Nov 2018

His wife is already denying it happened.

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
153. This would be one scenario. He exposes that he has been set up. He investigates with help of police.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:43 PM
Nov 2018

All roads lead to the White House, with the knowledge and direction of Trump, and this is the story that brings Trump down.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
155. He's separated from his wife. It was a different woman
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:50 PM
Nov 2018

And check post #143


What’s that about feeling stupid?

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
166. He hasn't been charged. Now it isn't involving his wife, it is
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:59 PM
Nov 2018

More likely to be a set up. You can pay a woman to make false allegations. More difficult for a wife to comply. He has got under Trump's skin like nobody else. Don't assume this isn't dirty tricks.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
192. There are threads all over gen discussion backing me up.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:27 PM
Nov 2018

You're just pissed because you wanted this story to be true and now its being taken away from you. Poor baby.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
194. Bwa ha ha ha ha. And all the threads are full of misinformation
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:29 PM
Nov 2018

But go ahead. Tell us your proof oh great Carnac

Response to Roland99 (Reply #196)

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
202. Go read other threads and you'll know.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:37 PM
Nov 2018

Or is your Ruskey English too limited to understand them.

Response to Roland99 (Reply #203)

Response to Roland99 (Reply #184)

MichMan

(11,923 posts)
174. Maybe she was paid a lot of $$$ to deny it happened?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:11 PM
Nov 2018

Seems to me that if someone could make a false allegation based on being paid off, it is also possible that someone could deny a factual allegation for the same reason

Autumn

(45,082 posts)
224. Yes, it's a thing. AOC drama proved to not be true, now Jacob Wohl aka Surefire
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018

is behind this.

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First Mueller and now me. When we are fully exonerated I am coming for you Jacob Wohl aka Surefire.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
182. I'm withholding judgement for now.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:16 PM
Nov 2018

First let me say I'm a woman and not a man. I have been abused in the past so I agree that no one deserves a beating and that goes for men as well as women. However, things aren't always what they seem. I'm going to tread lightly here because I don't want anyone to say I'm condoning any kind of domestic violence, but there are different situations.

There are situations where one partner (and it could be a man or a woman) is beaten and the other partner is the culprit. This could be a man and a women, or two men or two women. And this is probably the majority of cases.

But there are other cases that aren't so clear-cut.

I have personally known a woman who would provoke a fight, both verbally and physically. Some of her partners hit her. One of them didn't hit her but pinned her to the wall because she was attacking him and hitting him and she got bruised where he held her back because she was continually trying to hit him and her liver was so damaged from alcohol that she bruised easily. He was arrested but the case was dismissed at trial when it was found out that the police had threatened to have her probation revoked if she didn't testify against him. She didn't want to and said he hadn't hit her and was only trying to hold her back to keep her from hitting him.

Another woman I knew was a neighbor. My boyfriend at the time personally witnessed her boyfriend leaning over the bed to give her a kiss when he came home and she tore into the inside of his mouth with her fingernails and scratched him about the face and neck. He pushed her away and may have hit her trying to defend himself. He left and the police were called but he came back and hid in the closet. My boyfriend told the police that he was hiding in the closet and they had him come out and looked at his face and said "Oh my gosh, what happened to you". The police ended up not taking either of them to jail.

And of course, there are women who are angry for being rejected or have an ulterior motive and just lie, probably not the majority of cases but it does happen.

For now Avenatti is saying he never hit any woman. The story from CNN said the accuser wasn't his wife. His soon to be ex-wife said she said he never hit her. I'm going to wait to hear more information about who this woman is and what was the situation that lead to the altercation. Also are there any witnesses to anything.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
209. This is his. He is not a part of the Democratic Party nor has any relevance.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:02 AM
Nov 2018

Big ole whatever for me. Doesn't touch the Democrats. Not ours.

elocs

(22,574 posts)
221. If we hold to an accusation automatically means guilty, then Avenatti is through.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:09 AM
Nov 2018

But you'd reckon that in today's atmosphere concerning abuse of women by men that he would be smart enough to realize that.

When I read: "We're told during today's confrontation the woman ran out of the apartment building and was on the sidewalk on her cellphone with sunglasses covering her eyes, screaming on the phone, "I can't believe you did this to me."" it sounds suspiciously like a set-up to me.

I am reminded of the part in the "Dirty Harry" movie where the psychopath pays to have himself beaten up so he could blame Dirty Harry for it. Could be some variation of that here, but just the accusation makes it tough for Avenatti.

cannabis_flower

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223. Not only that..
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:07 AM
Nov 2018

I once had a boyfriend hit me in the head just above my temple. You could not see a bruise probably because it was covered with hair. He went outsiders and I locked him out. He came back and demanded I let him back in. I opened the door with the chain, he burst in like Jack Nicholson in The Shining as I tried to stop him by closing the door. Hit him in the nose with the door as he forced his way in. I left on foot and called the police. They came and couldn't see where he had hit me but saw his bloody nose and almost took me to jail. Maybe something like that happened. I am really glad I got out of that situation soon afterwards.

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