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Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:15 AM Nov 2018

If there was a tie vote to convict Trump through impeachment, how would Pence vote?

Right now Reps have a two-member majority, 52-48, based on latest election returns.

If Florida flips, that drops to 51-49.

If 1 other Senator, maybe Murkowski or Flake, votes to impeach, it's a tie. Or maybe 1 Rep dies or like McCain did, becomes too disabled to vote.

It would then be a tie, with Pence the tie-breaker.

This is a conflict of interest but I know of no law that says he can't vote. So does he vote to betray Trump voters and the wrath of the GOP majority by convicting Trump, making himself president? Or vote to acquit, and pass up his shot to be President (barring winning a future election)?

I am not at all sure I'd bet on Trump beating the rap under those circumstances. I think Pence might vote to convict, and become President.

Now if there was a simulteneous impeachment of BOTH Trump and Pence, would he have to then recuse himself from casting a tie-breaking vote? Any Constitutional scholars out there?

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If there was a tie vote to convict Trump through impeachment, how would Pence vote? (Original Post) Liberty Belle Nov 2018 OP
It requires a 2/3rds majority of the Senate to vote for removal. nilram Nov 2018 #1
Thanks, I didn't realize that it took 2/3. Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #3
Doesn't it take 2/3's majority to convict? WheelWalker Nov 2018 #2
I am sure he would cast his vote in the best interests of his country. Midnight Writer Nov 2018 #4
It's likely that Pence will also be indicted. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2018 #5
republicans would never cooperate to remove 2 republicans simultaneously unblock Nov 2018 #6
republicans would never agree to remove them simultaneously. unblock Nov 2018 #7
How would Pence vote? That's a joke, right? Vinca Nov 2018 #8

nilram

(2,888 posts)
1. It requires a 2/3rds majority of the Senate to vote for removal.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:19 AM
Nov 2018

So no tie is possible. There's no provision for the VP to vote at 66% minus one, so he's out of the picture in this regard.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
3. Thanks, I didn't realize that it took 2/3.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:29 AM
Nov 2018

Never going to happen, then, unless Trump goes completely off the rails with dementia too obvious to hide.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
5. It's likely that Pence will also be indicted.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:40 AM
Nov 2018

So he may not be inclined to remain part of the string of succession, or he will be forced to opt out.

That leaves Pelosi as the next in line.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
6. republicans would never cooperate to remove 2 republicans simultaneously
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:18 AM
Nov 2018

even if they were to cooperate to remove both donnie and pence, they could obviously refuse to do that in the same hour, leaving enough time to confirm a new republican vice-president.

they would never hand over the white house to a democrat.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
8. How would Pence vote? That's a joke, right?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:43 AM
Nov 2018

Pence would interrupt his massaging of Don's tiny feet to cast a vote to stop the impeachment.

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