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RandySF

(59,766 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:01 AM Nov 2018

MS-SEN: GOP Sen. Hyde-Smith says she doesn't want blacks to vote.

A video surfaced Thursday of Republican Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith of Mississippi saying it might be a "great idea" to make it harder for some people to vote, and her campaign quickly responded that she was "obviously" joking.

Hyde-Smith, who is in a runoff against Democrat Mike Espy on Nov. 27, made the remark at a campaign stop in Starkville, Mississippi, on Nov. 3. It was posted to Twitter on Thursday by Lamar White Jr., publisher of The Bayou Brief. Smith earlier this week posted video of Hyde-Smith making a comment on Nov. 2 about a "public hanging" that started a controversy.

"And then they remind me that there's a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who ... maybe we don't want to vote," Hyde-Smith is heard saying. "Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. And I think that's a great idea."

The episode comes after that first controversial video was posted to Twitter on Sunday. In that video, Hyde-Smith is heard saying during a campaign stop in Tupelo on Nov. 2 that if the man who was next to her, later identified as a local rancher, "invited me to a public hanging, I'd be on the front row."

Critics said the comment had a racial connotation in the context of Mississippi's history of lynching. Hyde-Smith said in a statement soon after the remark was posted that she "referred to accepting an invitation to a speaking engagement" and "used an exaggerated expression of regard."

"Any attempt to turn this into a negative connotation is ridiculous," she added.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/mississippi-gop-sen-hyde-smith-calls-voter-suppression-great-idea-n936946

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MS-SEN: GOP Sen. Hyde-Smith says she doesn't want blacks to vote. (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2018 OP
she needs to go DOWN!! fucking KKKlannerette Celerity Nov 2018 #1
I was thinking she ought to be the mascot of a Klavern. Nt raccoon Nov 2018 #24
Black people and decent White people should go to the polls loaded from bear on her ass. Blue_true Nov 2018 #31
The mere idea of a Mississippi Senate race being at all close is mind blowing. underpants Nov 2018 #2
Well, a child abuser in Alabama almost won. The White Christians in those places overlook a lot. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #32
"Any attempt to turn this into a negative connotation is ridiculous," MagickMuffin Nov 2018 #3
control, control, control Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #9
Tough read, but true. leanforward Nov 2018 #29
Gee, one of them said it out loud. Liberal In Texas Nov 2018 #4
"Just a little more difficult" Cracklin Charlie Nov 2018 #5
Buh Bye Cind Me. Nov 2018 #6
Unfortunately she is still likely to win. (eom) StevieM Nov 2018 #10
Cindy keeps putting her foot in her mouth like that gratuitous Nov 2018 #7
Likely? Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #12
"Likely?" gratuitous Nov 2018 #14
Blacks make up 37% of the state's population. I don't know the % of voters but will look it up. Blue_true Nov 2018 #34
Get on the phone unless you like her attitude sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #8
I knew she wouldn't disappoint me by saying something EVEN STUPIDER! In It to Win It Nov 2018 #11
Why should we interpret her using the word "liberals" as meaning "black"? greyl Nov 2018 #13
They should post that quote up in universities and colleges before the next election LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #18
The real quote, or the false one in the OP? nt greyl Nov 2018 #19
This one LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #20
There's a technique whereby true stories are contaminated with tiny falsehoods. greyl Nov 2018 #21
I was just talking about students, as that was what her quote mentioned. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #22
Why should we interpret Trump's talk of immigrants as applying only to... LanternWaste Nov 2018 #25
She's pretty awful Takket Nov 2018 #15
And Moore only lost by about 1% Polybius Nov 2018 #17
This is MS- their last Senator won by bragging about banging a cow - link Alhena Nov 2018 #16
Does Mississippi realize they are a national joke? Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #23
Matches Burning trilogy takes place in Mississippi riverbendviewgal Nov 2018 #26
should make a good political ad.... beachbum bob Nov 2018 #27
May she encounter difficulties in the rest of her life leanforward Nov 2018 #28
a start - adding -Crow to her hyphenated last name salin Nov 2018 #30
+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #35
Republicans. All class (nt) apnu Nov 2018 #33

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Black people and decent White people should go to the polls loaded from bear on her ass.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 11:52 AM
Nov 2018

Even a White person who maybe would not have voted for Epsy for reasons other than race should vote for him to insure that she loses.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. Well, a child abuser in Alabama almost won. The White Christians in those places overlook a lot. nt
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 11:53 AM
Nov 2018

MagickMuffin

(15,976 posts)
3. "Any attempt to turn this into a negative connotation is ridiculous,"
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:10 AM
Nov 2018

No it isn't. Anyone who would recommend certain people shouldn't be allowed to vote, it's really how she thinks and feels.

She was NOT JOKING!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,554 posts)
9. control, control, control
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:38 AM
Nov 2018

[...]

In the last decades of the nineteenth century, the lynching of Black people in the Southern and border states became an institutionalized method used by whites to terrorize Blacks and maintain white supremacy. In the South, during the period 1880 to 1940, there was deep-seated and all-pervading hatred and fear of the Negro which led white mobs to turn to “lynch law” as a means of social control. Lynchings—open public murders of individuals suspected of crime conceived and carried out more or less spontaneously by a mob—seem to have been an American invention. In Lynch-Law, the first scholarly investigation of lynching, written in 1905, author James E. Cutler stated that “lynching is a criminal practice which is peculiar to the United States.”1

Most of the lynchings were by hanging or shooting, or both. However, many were of a more hideous nature—burning at the stake, maiming, dismemberment, castration, and other brutal methods of physical torture. Lynching therefore was a cruel combination of racism and sadism, which was utilized primarily to sustain the caste system in the South. Many white people believed that Negroes could only be controlled by fear. To them, lynching was seen as the most effective means of control.

[...]

http://teachersinstitute.yale.edu/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html

Liberal In Texas

(13,613 posts)
4. Gee, one of them said it out loud.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:15 AM
Nov 2018

Not that you can't tell that from the way they suppress and make voting difficult for populations they suspect might vote differently than they want.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Cindy keeps putting her foot in her mouth like that
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:28 AM
Nov 2018

She's going to get athlete's tongue. Mississippi, like Alabama earlier, may take a look at the alternative and decide the Democrat better represents the state going forward. Mike Espy is a fine, well-qualified candidate.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. Blacks make up 37% of the state's population. I don't know the % of voters but will look it up.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 11:57 AM
Nov 2018

If a small % of Whites (the decent ones and there are some) vote for him, he can win.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
8. Get on the phone unless you like her attitude
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:34 AM
Nov 2018

We can turn this around on her with phone banking. The time to act is now before it's too late. People supporting Espy need to help all we can and in any way we can.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
18. They should post that quote up in universities and colleges before the next election
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:56 AM
Nov 2018

Youth are prone to not vote. Nothing in it for them they think. But if some grown up tells them they can't do something, or they'll make it hard for them, you'll get more students to actually turn up at the polls.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
20. This one
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:15 AM
Nov 2018

"And then they remind me, that there's a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who that maybe we don't want to vote. Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. And I think that's a great idea."

I didn't know there was a false one. Where is that?

greyl

(22,990 posts)
21. There's a technique whereby true stories are contaminated with tiny falsehoods.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:22 AM
Nov 2018

The subject of this thread reads "...says she doesn't want blacks to vote", implying that quote is in the video. It's not. Unless there's evidence of her saying that, that would be the false one.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
22. I was just talking about students, as that was what her quote mentioned.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:30 AM
Nov 2018

Yes, the OP title itself is misleading. I didn't see that line in the story at all, even though it is most likely true. Blacks, students, gays, anyone that is most likely to be a liberal, I'm sure she would rather they not be able to vote.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. Why should we interpret Trump's talk of immigrants as applying only to...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:44 AM
Nov 2018

Why should we interpret Trump's talk of illegal immigrants as applying only to the central and south Americans nations?

My guess would be 'common sense' and and patterns of consistency.

But I suppose we could tell ourselves that dog whistles don't exist, and literalism isn't simply for evangelicals.

riverbendviewgal

(4,254 posts)
26. Matches Burning trilogy takes place in Mississippi
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:49 AM
Nov 2018

The author, Greg Iles born in and lives in Mississippi. Powerful writing. Shows the racism still very alive now and the history.

salin

(48,955 posts)
30. a start - adding -Crow to her hyphenated last name
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 11:26 AM
Nov 2018

as her "jokes" all seem to fall in line with the Jim Crow era sentiments.

Sen. Hyde-Smith-Crow .

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