Avenatti is going after whomever perpetrated the bogus abuse story.

[triron]

Link to tweet

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. Whoever. NT

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

37. Beat me to it.

"Whomever" replaces "him" or "her"

e.g., "I'm going after him." "I'm going after whomever did this."

"Whoever" replaces "he" or "she"

e.g., "He wrote the TMZ article." "Whoever wrote the TMZ article is in trouble."

[mahatmakanejeeves]

43. In my cubicle, I have a

Fourth Edition Prentice-Hall Handbook for Writers. It's from 1965. The first edition came out in 1951. I have a bunch of books like this. I used to find them at yard sales and rummage sales. It probably set me back a quarter.

It's probably for use in the tenth grade, eleventh grade, something like that.

It goes into such things.

Thanks for writing.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

76. Yes, cuz that wut impotent.

[bitterross]

89. Right? His grammar is the important thing.

Not the fact that supporters of our President have decided frame him, defame and libel him. It's whether or not HE used the proper pronoun.

And people wonder why we lose to the GOP.

[calimary]

58. Subject vs object.

But we still get the message.

I’d love to see this traced to Roger Stone or Jerome Corsi. Or others. I bet there’s a few nogoodniks involved - probably working for trump. I bet Michael Cohen would know who they are. I suspect he used to specialize in black arts like this Togo on offense for trump. Probably even directed BY trump.

[LiberalFighter]

67. Same here. The higher it goes and caught the better.

[USALiberal]

55. LOL, really? Nt

[mahatmakanejeeves]

61. Yep.

Whoever wrote that sentence (do you see what I did there?) assumed that the word immediately following the preposition "after" must be the object of that preposition.

In this example, the entire phrase "whoever perpetrated the bogus abuse story" is the object of the preposition. The phrase, by itself, has a subject and a predicate. The subject of that phrase is "whoever." The predicate of that phrase is "perpetrated the bogus abuse story." "Whoever," the subject, takes the subjective case.

It can get trickier. In an example like this, though, look at the entire phrase. Ask yourself, "what's the subject?"

Thanks for writing.

[USALiberal]

63. I dont realy caare

[mahatmakanejeeves]

65. That's fine. I'm writing for the people who do care. NT

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

77. You can rite for them who cares some... but just remember to, they're those whom is not caring none.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

90. To youm for say, easy.

[Chemisse]

91. I care. So thanks. n/t

[reACTIONary]

74. wuteva. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

78. I think you meant "wuteva"... there, fixed it! haha!

[reACTIONary]

80. Whatever....

...makes sense.

[Tipperary]

56. Yup.

Glad I was not the one to point it out first lol.

Avenatti should have better English skills.

[FarPoint]

3. I support Michael...

Question....Is there an actual police report it arrest report? Any Booking records?

[blueinredohio]

38. Also where's the mug shot? When someone gets booked there's always a mug shot.

Everyone else's can be found where is Avenatti s?

[jberryhill]

39. Not all police departments release them

It depends on the policy of the PD in question.

Where are the mugshots of anyone else arrested by the LAPD last week.

[Ms. Toad]

47. Don't know about a mug shot -

but he was arrested, booked, and released on $50,000 bond.

Link to tweet

[Ms. Toad]

46. LAPD confirmed that he was arrested

booked, and released on $50,000 bond.

Update: We can confirm that Michael Avenatti (DOB: 02-16-71) was booked this afternoon on a felony domestic violence charge (273.5 PC). His bail is set at $50,000.

Link to tweet

[FarPoint]

48. Thanks

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. What about the other media outlets?

If Avenatti really was set up (which seems quite possible; you never know these days), he'd better be able to prove TMZ (and maybe others) published the story knowing it was false or with reckless disregard for the truth. He's made himself into a public figure so now he's stuck with New York Times v. Sullivan.

[ewagner]

15. Good call....

a lot of people (even those in public office who are regarded as "public figures&quot don't know about New York Times v. Sullivan

[groundloop]

42. I'd wager that Mr. Avenatti is quite aware of pertinent law.

Also, I certainly don't pretend to know all the facts in this case so am just waiting to see how it comes out.

I do find it telling that both of his ex-wives made statements to the press defending him and were very emphatic that he's never been violent.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

72. True, but

NYT v. Sullivan "actual malice" is often hard to prove. Also, Avenatti didn't seem to know much about SLAPP suits, which resulted in his client owing Trump a boatload of attorneys' fees after her libel claim was dismissed. Maybe he'll do a better job researching the law on his own case.

[Sanity Claws]

71. Reckless disregard

That could be failure to check the origin and truth of the story.
It would be accurate to report that he was arrested. However, my recollection is that TMZ gave additional details that the complaining party looked battered. That wasn't the term they used but that was the idea. If they failed to check that, then that would be reckless disregard for the truth.

[uponit7771]

86. So it sounds like if KNOWINGLY false crap was posted in order to harm someone then they could get

... past NYT v. Sullivan?

Thx in advance

[Bfd]

5. Well I do not object to ripping TMZ to bits.

Go for it Mr Avanetti!

Best of luck to you!

[GemDigger]

6. How stupid to target him of all people.

Mueller wasn't in a position to react but Avenatti (talk about poking the bear) is like bathing in honey in the wilderness just a week before they hibernate.

[FakeNoose]

18. This is how I think of Avenatti

I mean it in a good way, because he's on our side. I hope he gets out of this one because we need him.
Go get 'em Michael Avenatti!

[yuiyoshida]

23. Whose a good puppy???

Whose a good doggie??? You!!! good boy!!! I had a german shepherd as a kid. Well, we had two, one was called "Lucky" and the other "Shotzie" ... both got really smelly in the rain, or after eating, hahaha! ...

I think I prefered our Siamese cat better!

[Johnyawl]

36. We had a german shepard when I was a kid...

..., Dad got him for the family when he took a job that required him to travel. We named him Rex, as in short for Tyrannosaurus Rex lol. They're extremely loyal, smart and quite ferocious when their 'flock' is threatened. We lived in Phoenix so I don't know what he might have smelled like in the rain. lol

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

40. Dog thoughts:

[yuiyoshida]

44. LOL!

[calimary]

59. Awwww... don't worry, Pooch! YOU'RE a good boy!

[GemDigger]

25. And that!!

[FarPoint]

49. Me too...

He confronted tRump and it hurt tRump...gave us hope.

[LiberalLovinLug]

50. Not that stupid

maybe it is for whomever was the chump that the GOP got to start this. But in the long haul, the GOP know that that kind of stain never comes all the way out. Especially if they add another one or two invented scandals in time. You have to look no further than Hillary herself. One time voted the most admired woman in America, reduced to "crooked Hillary" for almost half the nation despite never being, I believe, even charged with a criminal offense.

This is meant not for us but for the Republican base, almost half the country. And perhaps even some Democrats. Something to stew in the minds if ever Avenatti decides to run for office. Just to add to any other hurdles he may have to tackle. Already, he has to first clear his name before he can be taken seriously as a guest talking about other things, on the MSM. And there will always be some who seeing his face now will have a visceral reaction. Republicans have learned, through Putin's troll farm, and their own troll farm, that simply the act of accusing does at least some damage.

[GemDigger]

52. No doubt the GOP is loving this but I don't think they understand that while taking Avenatti

down, Avenatti will take them down with him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

73. If Avenatti was set up, it was a very stupid move by whoever did it.

Like you said, Mueller was constrained by his situation and had no choice but to stay quiet, but Avenatti isn't. I'm not a big fan of Avenatti but he is a bulldog, and if this was a fake claim (especially if the setup was as stupid and transparently phony as the one they tried with Mueller) he can easily find out and raise however much hell he wants.

[Iliyah]

7. Whoa. Has this been confirmed as false.

?????????????????

[Hoyt]

8. Seems to me that the place for Avenatti to start is the woman who was allegedly abused.

[peekaloo]

9. That was going to be my comment.

He was arrested, right, and booked, right?

[Adrahil]

10. Not charged, so far as I know.... NT

[peekaloo]

14. I'll admit to not paying a whole lot of attention and I am confused.

CBS News made this their lead story the night it happened and Jeff Pegues reported he had been arrested and was being booked at that time. What chapped my ass was the half assed anchor's remark that all details weren't clear at that time.

I don't hold Avenatti in the highest regard but it's smelling like a set up.

[green917]

27. She has already categorically denied that he ever abused her

She came forward the day of the allegations.

[Hoyt]

33. I'm not sure. His estranged wife and x-wife came forward, but not the alleged victim who is neither

[Hav]

41. Well, the whole story so far is a mess

First it was supposedly his ex who then came out and refuted it, then it was changed to another woman who isn't known yet. And apparently, now it's about a male victim. Make of that what you will.

[forthemiddle]

69. He's innocent until proven guilty

But it seems he’s emphasizing that he never abused hi ex wife Lisa (who TMZ did incorrectly initially identify), and never identifying who the alleged victim was.
To help prove his innocence, or that he is being framed, he can just release the police report, and refute that, instead of tweeting that TMZ is in trouble because he never abused wife.

[still_one]

87. That starts with the prosecutor who believed the complaint to be credible, and filed charges of

domestic abuse against him

[libdem4life]

11. I get the chain of events a bit mixed up, but...

if it was TMZ who broke this "news"...and the Avenatti-crazed media bought it...just dumb. To slander a capable defense attorney? What idiot thought that one up. They say that Wohl guy? But still...the MSM took it and ran with it. What is it about checking sources anymore? They may literally pay for this, if so. Even the police were vague.

Regardless how one feels about Avenatti personally, his family/young daughters don't deserve this. Period. Also, he was just acquitted of another legal matter, IIRC.

Maybe we should apply some "Kavanaugh Logic"...well, he denied it.

[catbyte]

22. Unlike Kavanaugh, Avenatti is welcoming, no, demanding, an investigation.

I believe Avenatti at this point.

[libdem4life]

26. That was not the point...it was the automatic acceptance of Kavanaugh's defense

...sheer denial. His cheer leaders said that over and over, including the president. He was installed on the SC on the premise of "I didn't do it." even when most certainly believed there was a high likelihood that he did.

Hypocrisy...Avenatti is denying it publicly and was put in jail for a time...and still the farce goes on. Even the police don't have a "story" that I know of. Just that he was arrested.

I believe him, too.

[Dorian Gray]

60. Yeah.,

I'm vociferously NOT a fan, but if this is a made up charge and he wants a full investigation... then he should have that. Holy shit.

[hughee99]

81. In Avenatti's case, there is a police report,

So he’s going to get an investigation.

[brooklynite]

12. Forget TMZ...let's start at the beginning.

Was Avenatti arrested by LAPD or was he not?

If he was, who filed a complaint and what was the complaint?

What is the evidence behind the complaint?

[forgotmylogin]

20. Avenatti was arrested on "suspicion of domestic violence"

There are reports that someone "saw a picture of bruises and red marks, and apparently, a security guard heard yelling to the effect of "I can't believe you would do this" and "she is the one who hit me first" with cursing and named Avenatti as the perp.

In CA, rules say if there is a domestic abuse call, someone is getting arrested for the safety of both parties. The police weren't called when it happened and didn't witness anything at the time, they were just tipped off and apparently, someone had given them enough for them to take him in the next day after the incident allegedly occurred.

Nobody knows who the victim is. TMZ first said "ex wife" and she posted a statement saying it wasn't her and she'd never experienced any abuse at the hands of Avenatti. TMZ changed to "a woman" but nobody has been named.

Jacob Wohl retweeted Surefire Security saying "Surefire strikes again" with a link to the story of Avenatti being arrested.

Avenatti posted bail, but that is normal - suspects are arrested and held and released if they posted bail, but I think there needs to be an actual victim to press charges for it to go to trial. Avenatti has not been convicted of anything.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/if-surefire-intelligence-really-was-behind-false-avenatti-police-report-jacob-wohl-could-be-in-deep-trouble/

[Retrograde]

35. The domestic violence awareness can go overboard sometimes

Try showing up at an emergency room after injuring yourself at home: you get grilled on whether or not you feel safe, has your partner threatened you - no matter how much you tell them that you managed to harm yourself all on your own.

I don't know what the facts are in the Avenatti case: he could be a creep, he could be a victim of Trumpista dirty tricks.

[crimycarny]

54. Yes--the police often book based on mere accusation

As you stated, it's common for "suspects" to be arrested and released. I had always assumed that a suspect didn't get arrested for domestic violence unless there was concrete evidence--or at least substantial evidence--they had actually committed the offense. That was before two of my close friends were arrested (and mug shots taken) based on a mere accusation. Both of their "victims" eventually confessed they lied and the charges were dropped. I was shocked at how little it took for my friends' lives to be completely turned upside down. Both had to spend a lot of money to get their names cleared. Nothing happened to their victims for lying.

I'm not insinuating Avenetti is innocent simply because I like the guy, but I'm also keenly aware now of just how little is required to get the police to arrest someone.

[George II]

70. Yes, in domestic abuse cases the "rule" is make an arrest and then look into it....

There were too many cases years ago where the police were cautious and after they left the victim was beaten or murdered.

[DallasNE]

21. Exactly

Why has the arrest record not been released. What is up with that? Right now we have zero facts other than he is out on $50,000 bond so the charge is very serious, whatever it is. Something doesn't smell right, but what?

[forgotmylogin]

24. The RNC has requested the arrest record.

Since he is purportedly "a top Democratic condenter for 2020"...

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/avenatti-says-rncs-request-for-police-report-and-mugshot-suggests-allegations-are-politically-motivated/

[jberryhill]

45. Yes he was arrested. No, the LAPD does not release victim information.

[still_one]

85. and didn't a prosecutor file charges against him for domestic abuse?

[BamaRefugee]

13. Avenatti needs to start crying and scream I LIKE BEER, that seems to fix everything in matters like

[Power 2 the People]

17. LOL!

[libdem4life]

29. That along with "I didn't do it"...seemed to work well. n/t

[Grasswire2]

66. YEAH Kavanaugh got a huge long ovation at the Federalist Society today. nt

[Blue Owl]

16. No Mercy!

Squash these little runts...

[jrthin]

19. TMZ is loathsome. I hope the Trump humping Levin gets a dose of

his own medicine.

[SCVDem]

28. Remember Gawker?

Bad things can happen!

Screw TMZ!

[libdem4life]

30. Yep...we'd be better off...then on to "Pecker". n/t

[SCVDem]

31. Seth Myers

Sure had fun with that!

[libdem4life]

32. Yep...masterful, as usual. n/t

[AlexSFCA]

34. no bad deed should ever go unpunished

I support the fight, I wish Hillary had sued for defamation long time ago dragging defenders to court and testify under oath.

[Quixote1818]

51. TMZ is a Trump alli. Pretty repulsive one at that

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5412853823001/?#sp=show-clips

[Honeycombe8]

53. You mean that Trump mouthpiece, TMZ, wasn't true? Gasp! Color me shocked!

Not.

[LAS14]

57. Whomever????? Mmmm... I am now questioning his intelligence. nt

[mahatmakanejeeves]

62. See reply #2.

There is a discussion.

[Bonx]

64. He will get to the bottom of this and get rich(er)!

[7962]

68. Another empty threat.

I'll return to apologize if THIS one actually comes to fruition.

If this is a set up it would be SO easy to prove. You'd have to be an idiot to try. Then again, trump IS an idiot.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

79. Hardly... Avenatti is all business. I would want someone like him representing me.

The guy did more than most to try and overthrow Brat KKKavenough' nomination.

[7962]

95. Oh, he's all business all right; for HIM. What's he won for Stormy?

I know when you're fighting an ass its good to USE an ass, but this guy is out for himself.
He's promised a few bombshells that have never materialized.

However, if this turns out to be a setup, I hope he RUINS whoever did it. Its that kind of shit that hurts REAL victims of abuse

[Iggo]

82. Remember the guys who tried to set up Mueller last month?

Dumbest plan ever, and they still went ahead with it even after it was blown.

Yes, you'd have to be an idiot to try it. But obviously, those idiots exist.

[7962]

94. Yep. Same with the 2 guys who claimed to be the sexual assaulters in the Kavanaugh issue.

Lindsay Graham called them "crazies" from the first day.
But not before a dozen news orgs ran with it!!

[pintobean]

75. Maybe he can get some tips from OJ

on finding the real culprit.

[Eric J in MN]

83. TMZ accused him of beating his wife, who says that's false. NT

NT

[Kaleva]

84. Why doesn't Avenatti go after the woman who filed the complaint against him?

[garybeck]

88. Shouldn't he be going after the people who called the cops and

staged the event, instead of tmz?

Clearly if it was a setup, perhaps tmz was involved by reporting it, but someone filled a false police report and that is clearly an offense.

[triron]

92. The latest from Avenatti:

Link to tweet

[Kaleva]

93. Why doesn't Avenatti go after the person who filed charges against him?

"Police didn’t immediately disclose details about the arrest incident but Officer Tony Im, an LAPD spokesman, said the victim has visible injuries."

https://www.apnews.com/2a312590f09e4e1688b6ef8c64787d4f