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Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:58 PM Nov 2018

Top GOP adviser denounces Georgia's Brian Kemp: 'He cheated & undermined democracy every step of the

Atop Republican adviser denounced Georgia’s governor-elect Brian Kemp as a “hack” who stole the election.

John Weaver, a political strategist for former president George H.W. Bush and a presidential campaign adviser to the late John McCain, now works for Ohio’s Republican Gov. John Kasich — and he didn’t mince words when it came to Kemp.

“This hack @BrianKempGA is the next “governor*” of Georgia,” Weaver tweeted. “But he cheated & undermined democracy every step of the way. @staceyabrams should be governor, but isn’t due to actions that can’t be tolerated. She has a bright future. We need a new, enforceable Voting Rights Act. Now!”

More: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/top-gop-adviser-denounces-georgias-brian-kemp-cheated-undermined-democracy-every-step-way/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Top GOP adviser denounces Georgia's Brian Kemp: 'He cheated & undermined democracy every step of the (Original Post) Quixote1818 Nov 2018 OP
Trying to grab back some minority voters? Roland99 Nov 2018 #1
Some of them are smart enough... Johnyawl Nov 2018 #26
The Christian Coalition was very short lived JonLP24 Nov 2018 #37
republicans in general are cheating and undermining American democracy Achilleaze Nov 2018 #2
They have been since Reagun . BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #9
What Republicans don't understand, as they rake in the $$$ pazzyanne Nov 2018 #23
I know! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #28
Bill Maher was saying the same thing last night when discussing BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #30
My position since the 1980's. True Blue American Nov 2018 #40
Well .. that was BRAVE! mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #3
Whenever a Repugnant does something that smacks of being brave or honest I start looking cstanleytech Nov 2018 #10
That'd be because you possess, at minimum, two brains cells to rub together ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #11
Well I must because if I had less than two I would be part of the Repugnant voting base lol cstanleytech Nov 2018 #13
That you would ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #16
It's just Kasich running for president again. NBachers Nov 2018 #20
Maybe because True Blue American Nov 2018 #41
I think it's great that a Republican is standing up for Stacey Abrams. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2018 #4
Trying to make inroads for kasich Merlot Nov 2018 #7
Yes, and it's easy to take notice they never criticize.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #35
+ 1 red dog 1 Nov 2018 #21
Agree. Weaver left no room for misunderstanding his condemnation. Hortensis Nov 2018 #43
It's a start! Mopar151 Nov 2018 #52
All about fairlure of our Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #5
So Brian Kemp Was Rewarded For Being A Hack And Stealing The Election....nt global1 Nov 2018 #6
That's about the size of it. n/t Different Drummer Nov 2018 #18
That's what happens when the criminals are in charge, they reward themselves for their bad behavior. Initech Nov 2018 #31
Yes. It may be the last time, tho. The south is changing. Hortensis Nov 2018 #46
And the "winners" are not holding a cross-burning to celebrate. Mopar151 Nov 2018 #53
"They're lawyering up" instead. Yes. Very good points. Hortensis Nov 2018 #54
I really hope his tactics will be exposed in courts AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #8
Kemp the governor in cheat kimbutgar Nov 2018 #12
Gee, thanks for the zentrum Nov 2018 #14
Strange comment! pazzyanne Nov 2018 #24
It's sarcastic. zentrum Nov 2018 #27
Gotcha! pazzyanne Nov 2018 #33
... demmiblue Nov 2018 #15
Guy cries foul, while working for one of the most heinous Republicans BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #29
As a Buckeye True Blue American Nov 2018 #42
Paving the way for Kasich to take another stab at the presidency. NBachers Nov 2018 #19
Good for him! red dog 1 Nov 2018 #22
Brian"Block the Vote"Kemp. nt oasis Nov 2018 #32
Link to tweet Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #34
Most Republicans in power believe it's OK to cheat and.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #36
Yup LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #38
Thanks, well said. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #39
I think they have True Blue American Nov 2018 #44
You hit the nail on the head Pa-Kid Nov 2018 #48
republicans pissing on America and American democracy Achilleaze Nov 2018 #45
Democratic Politicians should not have to win a third more voters that voted to squeak out a victory UCmeNdc Nov 2018 #47
He cheated? Undermined? Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #49
Weaver is a rapid GOP anti-Trumper madville Nov 2018 #50
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #51

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
26. Some of them are smart enough...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:11 PM
Nov 2018

...to start looking for a lifeboat. Not going to find one. No republican - not even "moderate' Kasich - is going to get elected to national office without the white, evangelical, racist voters in the bible belt. There aren't enough republicans that don't fall into that category. They built this party over the last 50 years, they're stuck with it.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
37. The Christian Coalition was very short lived
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:21 AM
Nov 2018

2000s after Clinton was their power but as more Americans became supportive of things like gay marriage their messages became less appealing on a national level and Democrats didn't need to pander to evangelicals anymore. Trump got close enough to be selected by diverting away from those traditional GOP messages but he governs like a traditional conservative as well as a far right one but it was short lived. A lot of people know him for the con he is when before they might not have known what to expect from a Trump Presidency.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. republicans in general are cheating and undermining American democracy
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:03 PM
Nov 2018

Witness Comrade Dirty Donny* - the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief. He lost the election by 3 million votes, even after all the usual republican cheating. But with help from his colluding russian mob buddies, he and his KGOP republican Kabal were able to steal the White House and Congress in 2016. Pretty damn skeazey and un-American by any decent standard of honesty and integrity.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
9. They have been since Reagun .
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:54 PM
Nov 2018

The Reagun admin was the beginning of the GOP plan to kill our democracy. I guess they are super pleased with themselves...they have killed this democracy and right to vote, are killing the planet by denying climate change and they are getting rich, rich, rich which was their goal all along.

pazzyanne

(6,549 posts)
23. What Republicans don't understand, as they rake in the $$$
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:53 PM
Nov 2018

is that they and their descendants won't be alive to enjoy their money. They don't even care about their children and grandchildren.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
25. I know!
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:56 PM
Nov 2018

I think about that all the time...they do not even care about their own children and grandchildren. They are greedy sociopaths.

I care more about their grandchildren than they do...something is seriously wrong with them.

Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #25)

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
30. Bill Maher was saying the same thing last night when discussing
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:19 PM
Nov 2018

Fakebook (and Fuckerberg and Sandberg) and Amazon (and Bezos). He can't understand why people are so greedy...it has nothing to do with age, sex or religion. They can never be satisfied and can never have "enough". In Sweden they are satisfied/content. They even have a word for it (I always forget what it is). That word is considered profanity by half of the greedy Americans who always want more, more, more regardless of how much they need and already have.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
40. My position since the 1980's.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:29 AM
Nov 2018

It was clear what Reagan was from the time he stepped on the stage here, then destroying the Controllers Union, cutting taxes for the wealthy. He was the beginning of the corruption of the Party.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/13/opinion/13herbert.html

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Well .. that was BRAVE!
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:04 PM
Nov 2018

Methinks a pink slip is being printed as we speak ... outcries of this nature on behalf of actual Democracy and Fair Elections ... will DEFINITELY not be tolerated by the 'dependent on Election Fraud' GOP establishment.

Even if his boss Kasich isn't the worst of the worst, the hammer WILL be brought down on Weaver for stepping out of line.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
10. Whenever a Repugnant does something that smacks of being brave or honest I start looking
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:37 PM
Nov 2018

for what their hidden ulterior motive might be.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. That'd be because you possess, at minimum, two brains cells to rub together ...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:39 PM
Nov 2018

Not that, in your case, that's all ... mind you

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
41. Maybe because
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:31 AM
Nov 2018

Ohio passed a law creating an Independent Comission in Ohio.

The funny part is that Republicans put it on the ballot because they were afraid Democrats would win!

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
7. Trying to make inroads for kasich
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:31 PM
Nov 2018

Even though what he said is true, he neglects to mention that it's HIS republican party that practives voter suppression, not just kemp.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
35. Yes, and it's easy to take notice they never criticize....
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:32 AM
Nov 2018

their Republicon Party as a whole, just individuals and only when it's convenient for a sinister motive.

.............

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. Agree. Weaver left no room for misunderstanding his condemnation.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:41 AM
Nov 2018

And more than one motive would be fine as long as the one stated is true and not negated by the other. Weaver wasn't exactly weaseling on this subject.

And I don't trust ALEC co-founder and diversity knuckledragger Kasich, but Ohio Repubs DID set up that commission, which is at least a step in the right direction.

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
52. It's a start!
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:05 PM
Nov 2018

There is a tiny element of actual, decent Republicans out there. They're picking through the rubble, and trying to find other survivors. They should wear "I like Ike" buttons, as identification.

Really, in the smoldering ruin that remains of the (R) brand, the "Ike" party is closer to a viable national slate than the "Cons".

Initech

(100,065 posts)
31. That's what happens when the criminals are in charge, they reward themselves for their bad behavior.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:31 PM
Nov 2018

And that's been happening a lot lately. *COUGH* Kavanaugh *COUGH*

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. Yes. It may be the last time, tho. The south is changing.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:57 AM
Nov 2018

This election theft was so blatant, so astonishingly outrageous in many, in-the-public's-face ways, that even a lot of those who'd want to deny it can't. We're certifying a criminal as governor. And most are either angry and disgusted or depressed and demoralized by that.

Everyone knows that Stacey Abrams, a black female Democrat, would have won even an only somewhat corrupt election in Georgia. That's not a declaration of revolution, it is a revolution. In another time and place we'd finish by storming the palace and killing everyone. Here, we'll take it in the next election, or two.

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
53. And the "winners" are not holding a cross-burning to celebrate.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:15 PM
Nov 2018

Or a military parade. They're lawyering up, or trying to figure out how to steal their way out in 1 term.

See Former NH Gov. Craig Benson's career arc for a template. Took most of the Tea Partiers right out with him.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. "They're lawyering up" instead. Yes. Very good points.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:19 PM
Nov 2018

Stacey's new group's starting with a lawsuit against the State of Georgia in federal court charging "gross mismanagement." Bland legalese for massive crimes.

Boy, Benson was booted after one 2-year term. If only. Guessing his authoritarian style would do fine in Georgia's Republican Party. That was hard on his tea-partiers, though, wasn't it? Bless their hearts as we say down here.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
8. I really hope his tactics will be exposed in courts
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:53 PM
Nov 2018

and deemed criminal with possible indictment. There must be serious consequences, if not, voter suppression will never end. If anything he can now double down on it as governor.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
12. Kemp the governor in cheat
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:41 PM
Nov 2018

Everytime his name is mentioned the term vote suppressor and cheater should follow. Make sure his is so delgwtimized because he cheated to win. I hope studios pull out and there is an economic boycott all laid at his cheating feet.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
14. Gee, thanks for the
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:46 PM
Nov 2018

...timely shout out.

How 'bout you and wealthy donors now send Abrams money for her legal challenge.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
27. It's sarcastic.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:15 PM
Nov 2018

If he means what he says, he should now help Abrams challenge Kemp. Because he spoke up way too late to do any good.

See?

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
17. Guy cries foul, while working for one of the most heinous Republicans
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

Kasich is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #17)

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
22. Good for him!
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:50 PM
Nov 2018

I don't care if he works for that rat bastard Kasich, what he said is true....period!

We DO need "a new, enforceable Voting Rights Act..Now!"
(and, hopefully, Stacey Abrams does have a bright future too)

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
36. Most Republicans in power believe it's OK to cheat and....
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:08 AM
Nov 2018

that it's for the good of the Country.

It's the same belief structure that enables some Christians to say it's OK to refuse women the right to have a say over their own bodies or to say the poor are that way due to moral failures.

We have a lot of mentally warped people in our Country.......

I fear we're doomed to have to simply deal with these miscreants so long as the majority of Americans are enthralled by consumerism and the power wrought by having money, rather than a society driven by the power of love for our fellow man and our precious planet.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
38. Yup
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:37 AM
Nov 2018

The Right has warped and morphed themselves into believing that "love for our fellow man" is socialism. It's just handouts to the undeserving.Empathy is a liberal scourge. And love for our precious planet means killing jobs and being anti capitalist. Believing even a mixed system is evil, they overlook things like the armed forces couldn't operate in any efficiency if it were not run and financed in a socialist way. And that, maybe, healthcare could also benefit from everyone pooling together to fund it for everyone. And how much less stress that would bring to the overall mood of the country, not to mention the cost benefit to their own bottom line.

They have been brainwashed by careful and crafting oligarchs who have peers and allies in foreign countries as well. All to pull the wool over their eyes. Trump is too poor and stupid to join their club, but they use him to create disaster capitalist opportunities for themselves.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
39. Thanks, well said.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:38 AM
Nov 2018

We know that many things are best done as a community, and with community funding. One of the most devastating results of the right-wing's actions is destruction of community. And by community I mean everything from one-on-one personal interactions between people, to participation in community service, to universal health care.

Whether or not that's intentional and planned or not, I don't know. But I do know that ever since Big K and Walmart began the forced shuttering of mom and pop local stores in the 60s, and now many people always keeping their face in a smart phone, we have become do a degree a population of corporate robots.

There was a brief spell back in the late 90s when I, like many, fell for the fascination of the stock market and would have been far better off keeping my money in the mattress. I was fooled into thinking it was a fair, logical system but then found out it was nothing but a big gambling house driven by greed. Some of the best examples I can think of are their demand that companies achieve never ending improvements in efficiency (which is impossible with human employees), their keeping of boards of directors behind closed doors, and the almost absolute protection of the wealthy's assets by hedging.

I may be too old fashioned but I fear we're heading in many dangerous directions, some of which may be impossible to reverse.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
44. I think they have
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:44 AM
Nov 2018

Always been bullies who want control, but used fake Christianity to do it. Always been about control of the masses.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
45. republicans pissing on America and American democracy
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:46 AM
Nov 2018

The lot of them ought to pack up and move to frikken Siberia, where their low, anti-American morals would fit in.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
47. Democratic Politicians should not have to win a third more voters that voted to squeak out a victory
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:06 AM
Nov 2018

People go through the voter registration process and then show up to vote only to have their votes challenged, discarded or just simply not counted. That is a shame. There should be a law against this....!!!!!!!

Oh wait...?????????


Why doesn't the Democratic Party fight this voter harassment?

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
49. He cheated? Undermined?
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:22 PM
Nov 2018

This race was a farce right from the start. To have to accept the fact that Kemp didn’t recuse himself as Secretary of State during his campaign was outrageous, yet allowed. Why?

This is and always has been the nature of the rePuglican party. This election should be nullified and Kemp should be jailed for fraud - representing himself as a legitimate candidate. The mere fact that he had no shame whatsoever in not providing an adequate number of voting machines is cause for nullification. Restricting access to polling places is Cowardice 101. This and numerous Republican campaign maneuvers just shows what an (asshole, shitbag, whatever) this guy really is. He is a disgrace to democracy and only exacerbates the corrupt and foul political environment in which we live.

Where does the country go from here? Up, or down?

madville

(7,408 posts)
50. Weaver is a rapid GOP anti-Trumper
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:37 PM
Nov 2018

Makes sense that he is essentially switching sides. I don't know if we want him though, every campaign he ever worked on lost.

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