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dalton99a

(81,635 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:00 AM Nov 2018

Trump Is Beginning to Lose His Grip (NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/17/opinion/sunday/trump-is-beginning-to-lose-his-grip.html

Trump Is Beginning to Lose His Grip
It isn’t just white suburban women who switched to Democrats. Parts of rural and white working class America peeled off too.
By Stanley B. Greenberg
Nov. 17, 2018

...

First of all, Democrats did not win simply because white women with college degrees rebelled against Mr. Trump’s misogyny, sexism and disrespect for women. Nearly every category of women rebelled.



...

In 2016, the white working class men that Mr. Trump spoke most forcefully to as the “forgotten Americans” gave him 71 percent of their votes and gave only 23 percent to Hillary Clinton. This year, the Republicans won their votes with a still-impressive margin of 66 to 32 percent. But what was essentially a three-to-one margin was deflated to two-to-one, which affected a lot of races.





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Trump Is Beginning to Lose His Grip (NYT) (Original Post) dalton99a Nov 2018 OP
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2018 #1
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #2
I guess they realized they've been scammed... the GOP's $1.50/wk tax cut means diddly. SMC22307 Nov 2018 #3
White working-class women sandensea Nov 2018 #4
Am I the only one who saw the subject line and thought this article was going to be about GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #5
Is this from exit polls? getagrip_already Nov 2018 #6
"Beginning to..." ??? calimary Nov 2018 #7
Losing Grip eh?.. Then he needs to sharpen his skis. Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #8
Hope so but I dunno... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #9

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
3. I guess they realized they've been scammed... the GOP's $1.50/wk tax cut means diddly.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:40 AM
Nov 2018

I wish they had realized the con back in November 2016, but I'll take them finally coming to their senses. Keep it rolling -- especially PA, MI and WI -- for those coveted electoral votes in 2020!

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
4. White working-class women
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:54 PM
Nov 2018

Why a working-class woman of any race would vote for anyone as elitist, mediaval, and chauvinistic as today's Republicans, is beyond me.

If their motication is racial in nature, I hope they come to understand that to almost all GOP politicians, there's no difference between a poor white woman and the darkest-skinned poor woman they can find.

They're all chattel to them, nothing but. I hope they understand that soon, before it's too late.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
5. Am I the only one who saw the subject line and thought this article was going to be about
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:56 PM
Nov 2018

Trump losing his grip on reality? Not that I think he ever had much of a grip on reality... His cult followers sure don't.

getagrip_already

(14,864 posts)
6. Is this from exit polls?
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:58 PM
Nov 2018

If it is, it's pure bullshit feel good click bait.

With the size of early voting increasing, election day exit polls mean exactly squat. You've missed a large block of highly motivated base voters, so these swings are among a subset of voters.

Not that I don't like it, but lets get real. If this is exit poll data it is corrupt.

calimary

(81,521 posts)
7. "Beginning to..." ???
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

Gee, NYT, nice that you’re finally noticing this. It’s been building since he first set foot on the presidential wannabe stage. Some of us noticed from the beginning. Or more accurately, since he first took aim at President Obama during the birther bullshit that HE INITIATED.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
8. Losing Grip eh?.. Then he needs to sharpen his skis.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:30 AM
Nov 2018

Oops thought we are talking about Skiing.

Either way .. Can't wait to see a Trump Wipe Out!!

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