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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOcasio-Cortez Currently Backs Pelosi, 'Most Progressive Candidate,' For Speaker
By Kate Riga November 19, 2018 9:02 am
Right now, out of the field, I would say that she is the most progressive candidate, Ocasio-Cortez said on her Instagram Live where she often takes questions from constituents. All of the rebellion for the speakership are challenges to her right, and so I think its important to communicate that.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-backs-pelosi
ck4829
(35,069 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...anyone pushing the idea that AOC is 'protesting' the incoming Speaker is pushing an agenda that's out of step with the party..
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Glamrock
(11,797 posts)So facts don't matter.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Ocasio-Cortez gets it, we can't win by huddling in our own little tents, because of two year old personal grudges.
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Democrats shouldn't fall for them constantly trying to divide us.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Alexandria is still promoting a war on poverty, even if she doesn't use the word "war." Aren't we involved in too many wars right now? Especially with the rapidly-moving, slow-motion invasion that Trump used to rant about? I mean, how can we really trust her, or any other politician, who is dedicated to Democratic ideals? How can we feel safe?
On the other hand, in the context of reality, Alexandria is exactly who you and others have correctly said here for months. Will her DU critics recognize their profound errors in thinking? Hopefully, some will.
Small-Axe
(359 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)demmiblue
(36,845 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)who listen to her Pelosi is genuinely progressive. That has to be a surprise to some.
She doesn't mention experience and competence, unfortunately, both critical to this hugely important position. But that's understandable. Who would be more progressive than a very progressive Pelosi and also have at least enough of the other characteristics to make a viable alternative?
Nancy planned to step down 2 years ago and still plans to at some undefined point, but the very fact that no successor who is both competent and progressive enough to fill her shoes is on everyone's lips is telling.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)would have had it passed were it not for Joe Lieberman.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)article reporting the various speculations of knowledgeable observers about why Lieberman was threatening to filibuster the entire bill if it contained a public option. Their reasons are a mixture of disgusting and rather amusing to read about him, but none are admirable. No surprise. I'm definitely one of the Democrats he has friction with.
Power Grab The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder says Lieberman's maneuvering is a clear play for more influence over the final bill. "The final bill, post-conference, is going to look a bit different from the reconciled Senate bill," he explains. "Lieberman is giving himself the power to influence the final bill. I doubt that the Senate leadership is going to press him too hard right now, preferring to see if he can be accommodated in the final debate." At Gawker, Amrita Rajan agrees. "Joe Lieberman Would Like Some Attention Please," her headline says.
Attention Grab At Slate, John Dickerson says Lieberman isn't trying to kill health care reform, just gain a little bit of the spotlight. "He wants to be the one courted. Think of him as the new Olympia Snowe. The bazaar is open in the Senate, and moderate senators who want to be wooed by the White House can do so by expressing their 'concerns.'" Dickerson says this is "exactly the kind of hardball politics that public option advocates have been asking Obama to use against moderate senators."
Resents Democrats At The New Republic, Jonathan Chait says Lieberman is "furious with the party, resentful of President Obama (who beat his friend in 2008) and would relish a Democratic catastrophe...Lieberman won't join a futile filibuster, but if he has the chance to stick in the knife and kill health care reform, I think he'd probably jump at the chance." And he suggests Lieberman's true constituents may be quite wary of the public option. "Another reason for his position, of course, is that Connecticut is home to some huge insurance companies, who don't want any new competition."
In the Pocket of Insurance Companies At The Daily Beast, Paul Begala goes for blood. "Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman is identified as (I-CT). But the 'I' does not stand for 'Independent.' It stands for 'Insurance Industry.'" Begala says Lieberman opposed reform in 1993 and 1994 for the same reasons he opposes it now: he receives significant support from the insurance companies. "Lieberman sided with insurance companies against sick people, and with insurance companies against citizens who want to sue to protect their rights in court. As The New York Times reported, 'Many of Mr. Lieberman's friends said he had no alternative but to take this position because it was the one favored by the insurance industry. The industry is important to Connecticut's economy and has generously donated to Mr. Lieberman's campaigns over the years.'"
Bluffing At The Washington Post, Ezra Klein doesn't believe Lieberman will filibuster. "Lieberman has not, traditionally, been conservative on health-care issues. He's a moralist and a hawk, but not a particular critic of the safety net." Klein says Lieberman's argument against the public option is "simply false," which leads him to believe that the Senator is bluffing. Still, Klein concedes, "it may be that his friction with the Democrats has changed him."
Simply Crazy At FiveThirtyEight, Nate Silver says it's hard to make a deal with someone who won't adhere to reason. "While a Nelson or a Lincoln is liable to have a fairly rational set of concerns -- basically, they want to ensure they get re-elected -- it's tough to bargain with people like Lieberman who are a little crazy." He's worried Lieberman's move could "embolden" conservative Democrats. "In certain ways, he resembles nothing so much as one of those rogue, third-bit Middle Eastern dictators that he's so often carping about, capable of creating great anxiety with relatively little expenditure of resources, and taking equal pleasure in watching his friends and enemies sweat."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/10/why-lieberman-hates-the-public-option/347740/
I felt most people would eventually choose the public option. It was definitely my personal preference ideologically, and I'd intended to sign up first thing.
Reader Rabbit
(2,624 posts)Women supporting women, Democrats supporting Democrats, progressives supporting progressives = a solidarity that cannot be defeated.
watoos
(7,142 posts)I capitalized house for a reason.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)ridding the country of the pestilence that infects our white house.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)If someone more progressive than Pelosi announces, maybe Ill support that candidate.
But that hasnt happened so I support Pelosi.
Polybius
(15,398 posts)All of Pelosi's challengers are to her right.
pwb
(11,261 posts)At least until she casts a vote or speaks on the floor.