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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:23 PM Nov 2018

Stunning - Jamal Khashoggi was banned from Saudi Arabia not for criticizing the Saudis

but, for criticizing Donald Trump. This article was from 2 years ago, but found it again on Facebook today. I'm sure it's been posted since Khashoggi was murdered, but thought I'd post it again.

A Saudi Arabian journalist and commentator has been banned by his country for criticising US President-elect Donald Trump.

Jamal Khashoggi has been banned from writing in newspapers, making TV appearances and attending conferences, Middle East Eye reports.

After Mr Khashoggi criticised Mr Trump's Middle East policies at a Washington think-tank on 10 November, an official Saudi spokesman said he did not represent the Kingdom in a statement to the Saudi Press Agency.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-donald-trump-journalist-banned-for-criticising-us-president-elect-a7456956.html

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Stunning - Jamal Khashoggi was banned from Saudi Arabia not for criticizing the Saudis (Original Post) NewJeffCT Nov 2018 OP
I knew about this and find it interesting JonLP24 Nov 2018 #1
K&R I agree. Trump is a stooge for Big Oil, which includes Arabia Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #14
This is more than interesting - it's deeply disturbing. DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #27
K & R Bfd Nov 2018 #2
I would not be surprised if Trump was involved in his death. Kingofalldems Nov 2018 #3
I'm guessing he either didn't tell them no NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #5
My thoughts as well. Be carefule what you suggest though. triron Nov 2018 #15
I think you give Trump too much credit. They wouldn't bother consulting him. bitterross Nov 2018 #22
Jared Kushner was somehow involved w/out a doubt. Botany Nov 2018 #26
Yes, KUSHNER BROUGHT THE SAUDIS A LIST OF TARGETS... DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #28
And don't know when Kushner did it but I have read that he gave MBS a copy of a PDB .... Botany Nov 2018 #30
Did trump know and help approve this duforsure Nov 2018 #4
My guess NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #6
Considering how tRump has handled all of the fall out... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #7
what did Kushner know? Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #21
That was probably part of the "strategy session" that Kushner SoCalDem Nov 2018 #8
He is an evil person. triron Nov 2018 #24
Wondering how many other deaths trump has been "involved" in and is that why he's so scared of being BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #9
This is important knowledge. I sent it around. pdsimdars Nov 2018 #10
That's why republican scumbag Jar Jar K delivered a secret enemies list Achilleaze Nov 2018 #11
I know what I think. ananda Nov 2018 #12
There were some very fine people on both sides of the butchering world wide wally Nov 2018 #13
It's likely the weapons sale argument is nothing more than a convenient Enoki33 Nov 2018 #16
What about our past history with Saudi Arabia? oberliner Nov 2018 #17
Just saw this. As far as l know the historical relationship with Saudi Arabia Enoki33 Nov 2018 #31
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #18
Did trump order the hit? Or did a Saudi who wanted to give trump a gift do it? NightWatcher Nov 2018 #19
we knew this quite a while ago nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #20
I expect trump was complicit in this crime. spanone Nov 2018 #23
Kick ck4829 Nov 2018 #25
"By the way, you know this guy named Jamal Khashoggi who has been writing bad things about me?" dalton99a Nov 2018 #29
Maggot MFM008 Nov 2018 #32
Donald Trump Is An Accessory To Jamal Khashoggi's Murder NJCher Nov 2018 #33

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
1. I knew about this and find it interesting
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:26 PM
Nov 2018

This happened in December just before Trump took office which makes me think he was on Trump/Kushner radar.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
27. This is more than interesting - it's deeply disturbing.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:33 PM
Nov 2018

Did Trump use the Saudis to actually kill and therefore silence, a journalist working in the US??? And one whose children are US citizens?

THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED.

I’m sick to my stomach.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
22. I think you give Trump too much credit. They wouldn't bother consulting him.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:43 AM
Nov 2018

I don't think anyone in the Saudi Royal family would feel it necessary to consult Trump. Certainly, not to get his permission.

Their banning him for criticizing Trump instead of them is all optics. They just used Trump as an excuse so they could say they were not tamping down on free speech when it was criticism of them.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
28. Yes, KUSHNER BROUGHT THE SAUDIS A LIST OF TARGETS...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:35 PM
Nov 2018

... and he did so just before Kashoggi’s murder.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
30. And don't know when Kushner did it but I have read that he gave MBS a copy of a PDB ....
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:49 PM
Nov 2018

.... (Presidential Daily Briefing) that had to do w/our knowledge of the people that
the Saudi Royal family saw as threats.


Lock 'em up.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. Did trump know and help approve this
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:34 PM
Nov 2018

And was involved all along? Was it for American hired mercenaries to use rounding up the princes opposition for him, and by giving them intel on them? Then this was for trump in return?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. My guess
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:51 PM
Nov 2018

as I posted above - is that the Saudis told Trump they were going to do it, and he either didn't say "no" to them or else said "yes" to them.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
7. Considering how tRump has handled all of the fall out...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 04:54 PM
Nov 2018

he is indirectly guilty for the journalist's death. Whether he or Kushner told the Saudis to do it or knew of the plan and didn't stop it, the results was the same. GUILTY!

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
8. That was probably part of the "strategy session" that Kushner
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 04:55 PM
Nov 2018

had with MBS ...( the trip he took on a commercial jet to avoid press)

That's when "the boyzz" stayed up all night shooting the breeze and discussing enemies....

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
9. Wondering how many other deaths trump has been "involved" in and is that why he's so scared of being
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:06 PM
Nov 2018

indicted?
You don't get cozy with the mob in the construction business in NYC for decades and stay clean.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
11. That's why republican scumbag Jar Jar K delivered a secret enemies list
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018

to the Saudis - to target enemies of the KGOP and the Saudis

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
16. It's likely the weapons sale argument is nothing more than a convenient
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:06 PM
Nov 2018

cover cover for the real reasons tRump supports murderers over the moral integrity of the country he represents. Once again it probably boils down to national betrayal for personal financial gain, and despotic ambitions. Eventually we will all know the truth about how big a douchebag he really is.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
31. Just saw this. As far as l know the historical relationship with Saudi Arabia
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:52 PM
Nov 2018

was, and is, primarily based on oil and weapons sale in the name of regional security. In reality it was to protect cheap oil supplies that powerful US officials had a financial interest in. The 911 response was s stark display of how far reaching Saudi power reached. Currently MBS has simply figured out the selling price of the tRump family and paid it.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
19. Did trump order the hit? Or did a Saudi who wanted to give trump a gift do it?
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:29 PM
Nov 2018

This is so beyond the pale there are no words or metaphors that fit the circumstance.

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