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How soon before tRump says he thinks Kavanaugh should be Chief Justice of the SCOTUS? (Original Post) stopbush Nov 2018 OP
Shush. Don't give him ideas. Control-Z Nov 2018 #1
No later than Christmas. hedda_foil Nov 2018 #2
And how would he think that could be done? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #3
Tomorrow. democratisphere Nov 2018 #4
He can't. Unless he gets his friends from Saudi Arabia to remove Roberts question everything Nov 2018 #5
Roberts is a fraud. Scruffy1 Nov 2018 #6
Fall for what? Like it or not his vote ruled the ACA was Constitutional. Roberts is NOT a fraud. still_one Nov 2018 #7
With Trump insulting Roberts recently Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #15
I have no idea, but Kennedy and O'Conner were conservative justices. They just weren't quite the still_one Nov 2018 #20
How soon before we find out duforsure Nov 2018 #8
Kennedy wasn't forced out dansolo Nov 2018 #9
Please explain how he does that. onenote Nov 2018 #10
LOL...no explanation needed... Stellar Nov 2018 #11
How did he appoint Whitaker as Acting AG? stopbush Nov 2018 #12
There was a vacancy. onenote Nov 2018 #13
And how did that vacancy come about? stopbush Nov 2018 #14
He effectively fired someone he had the authority to fire. onenote Nov 2018 #18
For anyone that know. Blue_true Nov 2018 #16
That President can pound sand Generic Brad Nov 2018 #17
The Chief Justice position requires a separate confirmation and is life tenure. onenote Nov 2018 #19

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
1. Shush. Don't give him ideas.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:21 AM
Nov 2018

There's not a chance in hell he would ever think of that on his own.

Happy Thanksgiving!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
3. And how would he think that could be done?
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:26 AM
Nov 2018

A chief justice has to be confirmed by the Senate as chief justice, so K would have to go through another confirmation hearing and he might not be so lucky the second time. And what would Tiny do with Roberts? He can't fire him.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
5. He can't. Unless he gets his friends from Saudi Arabia to remove Roberts
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:47 AM
Nov 2018

Or give him an offer he cannot refuse to retire

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
6. Roberts is a fraud.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 03:05 AM
Nov 2018

If anything he's one of the worst of the R's. I guess some dems will fall for it. I think it's pathetic that he expects to get some credibilty after he's done the dirtiest of the dirty work. Without his Shelby versus Holder and Citizens United The R's might not haave the Senate. Also, if you go back to the stolen elections of 2000, 2004 and 2016 he wouldn't be on the damn court. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
7. Fall for what? Like it or not his vote ruled the ACA was Constitutional. Roberts is NOT a fraud.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 03:21 AM
Nov 2018

He is what he is.

He is a conservative justice, and he never has hidden that. He also ruled on the Obergefell V. Hodges decision, which stated same-sex marriage was a constitutional right.

I will tell you who are frauds though. Those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee by either voting third party or not voting. The Jill Steins and Susan Sarandon's who conned the naïve and gullible that there was no difference between republicans and Democrats


 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
15. With Trump insulting Roberts recently
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:31 PM
Nov 2018

And the rebukes may change how Roberts will lean. If he shifts to the left as a permanent swing vote, we win.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
20. I have no idea, but Kennedy and O'Conner were conservative justices. They just weren't quite the
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 03:09 PM
Nov 2018

ideologue that Alito, Scalia, and Thomas were/are, where in some cases their personal bias was not the basis for their decision.

I think Roberts falls more into the Kennedy category

I don't seem him shifting left, but can see him becoming a swing vote on some issues.

While I don't think Trump's insults will change his philosophy, it is not unheard of where being on the highest court has changed a justice.

Hugo Black's background by any standard was a racist before he became a SC justice, and the court changed him. He voted for Brown verses Board of education which said segregated public schools were unconstitutional, so maybe your assessment/wish regarding Roberts might happen


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
8. How soon before we find out
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:43 AM
Nov 2018

Trump had a hand in forcing Justice Kennedy out, and is presently working on doing the same thing to others?

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
9. Kennedy wasn't forced out
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:15 AM
Nov 2018

His reputation as a moderate is overrated. His retirement was more likely a shady deal to protect his crooked son.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
11. LOL...no explanation needed...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:23 AM
Nov 2018

he just says ish. Like he once said America should appoint lifetime president.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
18. He effectively fired someone he had the authority to fire.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:28 PM
Nov 2018

He has no authority to fire Roberts.

I certainly hope you knew that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. For anyone that know.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:38 PM
Nov 2018

How does the Chief Justice hold that job. I know that a President appoints one if the position comes open. But what happens when there is a healthy sitting Chief Justice who is not planning on quitting and a President wants someone else in the job?

onenote

(42,702 posts)
19. The Chief Justice position requires a separate confirmation and is life tenure.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:29 PM
Nov 2018

Whether the position is filled by someone not currently not he court (as was the case with Roberts) or by a sitting justice being nominated to be Chief Justice, it requires a separate confirmation. In short, Trump can whine all he wants. Roberts is CJ for as long as he chooses to be CJ.

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