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sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:04 AM Nov 2018

Another man dead for being black.

Alabama mall shooting on Thanksgiving turns into what we have always said would happen.. Shots fired with an 18 yr old and 12 yr old hit, all the armed people pulled their guns to defend themselves. Turned out there were a lot of "good guys with guns". Video has been posted of what sounds like guards or people in power telling everyone to run and thundering herds of people ran for the exits. The cops see a black man running with a gun and decide he must be the shooter and killed him. Reports say his father is a local cop and the victim is military. This is really just a mess and I blame being an open carry state as well as possibly poorly trained racist cops. Very sad.
[link:https://hooversun.com/news/hoover-police-seek-videos-from-deadly-thanksgiving-night-sho/|

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Another man dead for being black. (Original Post) sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 OP
Wild West SallyHemmings Nov 2018 #1
No. Wild cops. 3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #2
And the shooter is still hasn't been captured hexola Nov 2018 #3
Shooter left the gun behind sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #15
How do they train cops watoos Nov 2018 #4
They carry a color chart. rickford66 Nov 2018 #11
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that people waiving guns around pazzyanne Nov 2018 #5
Repeat this often.... The Wild West Had Gun Control - guns were turned in at city limits groundloop Nov 2018 #8
Sounds like this was the inevitable "Guntown" moment we knew would come hexola Nov 2018 #6
Thank you dhol82 Nov 2018 #7
The only way to stop this shit is to sue the Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #9
Thus, they must carry prohibitively expensive insurance.. paleotn Nov 2018 #12
Great idea! Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #13
The NRA sells the insurance - might increase the chances someone pulls the trigger? hexola Nov 2018 #14
Guns everywhere down there.... paleotn Nov 2018 #10
Good guys with guns, unless you are black... HipChick Nov 2018 #16

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
15. Shooter left the gun behind
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:15 AM
Nov 2018

He is probably buying lottery tickets right now as lucky as he got. He left the gun in Santa's workshop and I understood the cops didn't find it themselves. By the time this was figured out, the real shooter was long gone.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. How do they train cops
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:37 AM
Nov 2018

to distinguish good guys from bad guys?

Another tragic, needless, gun death.

I hear the cop who shot 12 year old Tamir Rice just got hired, hope that was bad info.

pazzyanne

(6,551 posts)
5. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that people waiving guns around
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:49 AM
Nov 2018

after a public shooting is a recipe for disaster. The police may hold some culpability in this case, but the real problem is the number of "good guys carrying guns" who are not trained to respond in shooting emergencies. Anyone pulling a gun in this type of situation is asking to be shot by law enforcement who are not mind readers. I, too, blame open carry laws. Returning to the "Wild West" mentality is not a solution to restoring law and order. The sheriffs of old West towns had gun checking rules in their towns for a reason!



groundloop

(11,518 posts)
8. Repeat this often.... The Wild West Had Gun Control - guns were turned in at city limits
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 AM
Nov 2018

We are now far worse than the 'wild west', this latest incident is a result of our fucked up interpretation of the 2nd Amendment combined with the NRA and gun industry push to reap fat profits from the sale of lethal weapons.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
6. Sounds like this was the inevitable "Guntown" moment we knew would come
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:54 AM
Nov 2018

And it's only going to get worse.

But the details here will be interesting.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
7. Thank you
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:08 AM
Nov 2018

I kept watching the news reports and they only reported the name - never the race.
Kept thinking it had to be a black kid because he was the only fatality.
The cop is now on leave while they investigate. The training in Mississippi must be lacking in certain fundamentals.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
9. The only way to stop this shit is to sue the
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:22 AM
Nov 2018

“Good guy shooters” If there is no personal cost to their mistakes they will just keep doing it.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
12. Thus, they must carry prohibitively expensive insurance..
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 AM
Nov 2018

or no gun for them. I wonder what the price would be if actuaries got a hold of it? Interesting to see how that would vary across the country.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
14. The NRA sells the insurance - might increase the chances someone pulls the trigger?
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:57 AM
Nov 2018

after all - it's just an insurance matter...

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
10. Guns everywhere down there....
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:47 AM
Nov 2018

Under trained, possibly racist cops paid so little they have to moonlight at shopping malls. A political climate in the state that can be summed up as "I got mine, fuck everyone else." What could possibly go wrong?

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