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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:01 PM Nov 2018

Frank Luntz Asked About His Partisan Past on Fox News: 'I Don't Know' If I Still Consider Myself ...

Frank Luntz Asked About His Partisan Past on Fox News: ‘I Don’t Know’ If I Still Consider Myself a Republican

by Aidan McLaughlin | Nov 25th, 2018, 1:48 pm

Frank Luntz appeared on Fox News’ MediaBuzz with Howard Kurtz on Sunday, and the longtime GOP pollster said he isn’t sure if he still considers himself a Republican.

On to discuss partisan rancor and public mistrust in media, Luntz was asked by Kurtz about his work with Newt Gingrich in the 1990s, when then-House speaker Gingrich developed what critics would decry as the roadmap to political polarization. Luntz pushed back on that criticism, pointing out that his work with Gingrich did not overlap with his more distasteful political maneuvers.

“Do you regret any of the tactics of your past, and are you now moving to a different place when you talk about ‘I want to spend 2019 finding common ground’?” Kurtz asked. “That’s not Frank Luntz the partisan warrior.”

“It’s hard to be a partisan warrior when you see the damage that’s done,” Luntz said.

“Do you still consider yourself a Republican?” Kurtz asked.

“I don’t know,” Luntz replied — arguing the policies of Republicans and Democrats in inner cities don’t work. Kurtz asked if his move away from the Republican Party had anything to do with Trump, but Luntz demurred.

“I don’t like the tone and demeanor of either of them,” Luntz said.

“It sounds like you are becoming an independent without using those words,” Kurtz noted.

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Frank Luntz Asked About His Partisan Past on Fox News: 'I Don't Know' If I Still Consider Myself ... (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
LOL #walkaway Sedona Nov 2018 #1
lol JHan Nov 2018 #28
He's a wolf in sheep's clothing Jarqui Nov 2018 #2
he's a weasel in rat's clothing. WhiteTara Nov 2018 #13
I like your description. It is better Jarqui Nov 2018 #14
He's another of those early enablers that loved WhiteTara Nov 2018 #18
Good! Because if you did take him at his word, you would end up the main course. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #20
F him. He is soley responsible for the "Democrat Party" JDC Nov 2018 #3
What is he trying to say? violetpastille Nov 2018 #4
Ka Boom Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #5
He talks about two organizations as an alternative to Democratic solutions to poverty violetpastille Nov 2018 #8
Have for years Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #10
inner city ALWAYS MEANS OF DARKER SKIN TONE a kennedy Nov 2018 #7
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #37
Welcome to the world you helped create, a**hole. pecosbob Nov 2018 #6
Exactly. He frothed up the crazies. Now that they are batshit, he jumped ship. Blue_true Nov 2018 #21
"Is there another party that's racist, misogynistic, klook Nov 2018 #9
I don't hear a rejection, just "we weren't supposed to get Trump" JHB Nov 2018 #11
He is a pos. Equating Democrats the same Republicans does make him cleaner. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #12
All those bad words Luntz pushed to describe us was clever for awhile pwb Nov 2018 #15
The problem for him. Blue_true Nov 2018 #22
Show me an anti-Trump Republican & I'll show you a person in denial about the monster they created. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #16
Bingo. You nailed it in every sentence. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #23
This a-hole saddled us with the "demoCRAT party" vs "DemocratIC" meme during contract-ON-America UTUSN Nov 2018 #17
Another partisan republican calling for common ground. Blue_true Nov 2018 #19
Well, isn't that special? SoCalDem Nov 2018 #24
Atwater, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Rove, Luntz, Trump. nt wiggs Nov 2018 #25
HE WENT ON FOX sharedvalues Nov 2018 #26
Luntz is the reason this country is so F'ed up! kimbutgar Nov 2018 #27
Didn't he also get "climate change" going? bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #29
Folks, this is exactly the situation we/Dems should take advantage of, elleng Nov 2018 #30
Like rats abandoning a ship, GOP wants to abandon Trump. Too late. You own him. Raven123 Nov 2018 #31
He doesn't like what he helped create? SHRED Nov 2018 #32
As he snakes into both-sides-ism, Frank Luntz conflates the RW bigotry he nourished LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #33
Fuck. Frank. Luntz. stopbush Nov 2018 #34
Luntz is part of the disease. C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #35
Duplicitous Bastard must be crushing the Republican label in his focus groups Generic Brad Nov 2018 #36
I can't stand these hypocrites like Luntz. ConnorMarc Nov 2018 #38

WhiteTara

(29,707 posts)
13. he's a weasel in rat's clothing.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:27 PM
Nov 2018

He is scum on the bottom of the pond, the gum left on the street. I'm going to tweet fry him.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
3. F him. He is soley responsible for the "Democrat Party"
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:07 PM
Nov 2018

And his "both sides" suggestion is pure f'ing BS.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
4. What is he trying to say?
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:12 PM
Nov 2018
“I don’t know,” Luntz replied — arguing the policies of Republicans and Democrats in inner cities don’t work.


What to him is "inner city", what to him is "policies that work"?
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Ka Boom
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:27 PM
Nov 2018

funny how the truth escapes the mouths of despicable persons mouths. He and Karl Rove did more to divide our Nation than anyone.

What we see today is a direct result of the Media and Politicians kowtowing to messaging of this Person.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
8. He talks about two organizations as an alternative to Democratic solutions to poverty
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

GOODProjects and GOODPartners.

When I go to GOODProjects Twitter account it defaults to Russian.

I guess they are launching tomorrow.

So, no need for TANF, no need for SNAP. Mentor programs are the way forward apparently.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Have for years
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:05 PM
Nov 2018

suspected Luntz to be a Ayn Rand worshiper. He has and is a Master of getting his Spewage front and Center in the Media.

Always amazes how the Body Politic can be snowed by the likes of Luntz and Rove....

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. Exactly. He frothed up the crazies. Now that they are batshit, he jumped ship.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 06:32 PM
Nov 2018

And is desperately swimming toward our ship to infect us.

klook

(12,154 posts)
9. "Is there another party that's racist, misogynistic,
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:03 PM
Nov 2018

xenophobic, plutocratic, cruel, stupid, and corrupt, just without being so obvious about it?”

JHB

(37,160 posts)
11. I don't hear a rejection, just "we weren't supposed to get Trump"
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:13 PM
Nov 2018

Go ahead and consider yourself a Republican, Frank. It's the party you and your pals turned it into.

If you're not comfortable with that, then cut this mealy-mouthed hem-and-haw and make a clean break.

And then go away, you myopic hack. You have poor judgement and shouldn't be anywhere near politics.

pwb

(11,261 posts)
15. All those bad words Luntz pushed to describe us was clever for awhile
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:40 PM
Nov 2018

But now we are on to his mean word game and it won't work anymore. Frank you have been exposed.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. The problem for him.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 07:19 PM
Nov 2018

He used those words to make rabid the minds of those that he wanted to activate to attack democrats. He questioned out patriotism, our understanding of the economy, our belief that people have a true right to self determination as long as they are not attacking the rest of society, he called us weak for caring for the less fortunate.

Not the rabid people that he made that way have welcomed in Nazis and KKK and are now openly showing the hatred that was always just below the surface.

Maybe Luntz is trully sorry, it would be good to see him stop weasel words and do a full mea culpa then sincerely work with us to make things right. Until then he is like the character in the movie where some nuts took over Alcatrez and aimed missiles at San Fran. He led the crazies to where they are, now as he lays bleeding he asks "What have I done?"

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. Show me an anti-Trump Republican & I'll show you a person in denial about the monster they created.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:42 PM
Nov 2018

The ones who still worship at the altar of Saint Ronnie can't seem to accept their complicity. They simply want to go back to using a dog whistle instead of a bullhorn. Because that'll make everything okay again and assuage their guilt.

And by "monster," I mean the Republican Party base (as well as all the so-called "independents" with their bothsidesism). Trump is merely a symptom. Once Trump is gone, the monster will remain. As Obama said, the GOP has been "feeding the base all kinds of crazy for years." The monster must be fed, which is why Republicans hoping to get re-elected don't speak out against Trump except in rare cases. Eventually we'll see the rise of Trump 2.0, a more intelligent and politically-savvy and charismatic demagogue. We best be ready.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Another partisan republican calling for common ground.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 06:24 PM
Nov 2018

Just like Kasich. When things were frothing up toward where they are now, Luntz and Kasich were perfectly happy republicans, they actually pushed the nonsense. I will believe Luntz when he go back through all the damage that he has done and say that he was wrong for doing the things that he did, that those things were bad for the country.

Kasich? Before you buy his bullshit, he worked to shutdown unions in Ohio. He pushed and signed legistlation that severely restricted a woman's right to chose what she does to her body. In a special election and the governor's race, Kasich backed the very same candidate that Trump full throatedly endorsed, against TWO democrats that Kadich now says are the type of people that he would like to work with.

"No Labels", "Common Ground", "Bipartisan Caucus". People it is all BULLSHIT!!!!! It amounts to republicans that at one time played footsie with but now have lost their party to the crazies trying to coop and take over our party.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
24. Well, isn't that special?
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 08:33 PM
Nov 2018

Republicans have been building their monsters for decades and now he's/they're running amok, they claim the Schultz defense..


sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
26. HE WENT ON FOX
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:32 PM
Nov 2018

he’s a Republican.
Or a conservative propagandist trying to distance himself from the worst of the GOP.
Don’t let him flee that. Luntz built this GOP mess.

kimbutgar

(21,139 posts)
27. Luntz is the reason this country is so F'ed up!
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:32 PM
Nov 2018

I have no respect for him and hope he dies a painful death for what he has done to destroy our country with his stupid canned talking points.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
30. Folks, this is exactly the situation we/Dems should take advantage of,
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:38 PM
Nov 2018

welcome him (and others similarly situated) to a better place, and NOT disparage; otherwise HELPLESS is the word of the era.

LuvLoogie

(7,002 posts)
33. As he snakes into both-sides-ism, Frank Luntz conflates the RW bigotry he nourished
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:01 PM
Nov 2018

with the opposition to that bigotry and its financiers.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
36. Duplicitous Bastard must be crushing the Republican label in his focus groups
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:21 PM
Nov 2018

He will forever be a duplicitous bastard to me.

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